[HN Gopher] Do Insects Feel Pain?
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       Do Insects Feel Pain?
        
       Author : Hooke
       Score  : 11 points
       Date   : 2025-01-29 21:15 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | ge96 wrote:
       | Man I always feel bad having to kill a pest insect.
        
       | can16358p wrote:
       | I never intentionally harm a single insect... except flies and
       | mosquitos. I hope they do feel the pain as they deserve it!
       | 
       | Other than that I respect all of them.
        
         | unshavedyak wrote:
         | For me it's various forms of fruit flies. That they come into
         | my office and just fly at my face or in my food randomly...
         | well, i hope they suffer lol.
        
           | Retr0id wrote:
           | I'm plagued by fruit flies but I can't say I've ever wished
           | them harm. Which is weird because they're incredibly
           | annoying. I think something has to be annoying me "on
           | purpose" for that. And sure, I might swat at them or
           | whatever, but that's just to make them go away.
        
         | galleywest200 wrote:
         | I used to never harm insects until I found ticks and mosquitos
         | on my dog...So now I kill ticks and mosquitos.
         | 
         | I like spiders though. I have had one living in my bathroom
         | window for about six months now. It seems to be eating other
         | spiders that try to crawl in based on the contents of its web.
         | I consider this rent payment and allow it to stay.
        
           | c12 wrote:
           | I have a similar spider story, for the past nine years a
           | rather large spider (for the UK) had been living under the
           | bookcase by my front door. I have left it alone, but do
           | hoover up the graveyard of consumed insects every couple of
           | months. I caught it a few months ago when I had new carpet
           | laid, released it back to its spot once the bookcase was back
           | in place :D
        
         | vharuck wrote:
         | I've had to relax my rule to never needlessly harm insects, and
         | never do it just because it's the easiest way to get rid of
         | them. For example, a single ant gets scooped up and thrown
         | outside, but a line that found food is getting killed and their
         | pheromone trail bleached.
        
       | NoMoreNicksLeft wrote:
       | By definition, all life responds to stimulus, the most important
       | of course being injurious phenomena.
        
       | kakapo1988 wrote:
       | I wonder if the invading aliens will wonder if we feel pain?
       | However they decide, I just hope they make it quick.
        
       | Clubber wrote:
       | I suspect most living creatures feel pain; it's a survival
       | mechanism.
        
         | sandworm101 wrote:
         | Pain only makes sense if an animal can learn. It is a teaching
         | mechanism to modify future behavior. A very simple creature may
         | act purely automatically, not even instinct but raw dna-
         | programmed responses. Pain makes little sense there as there is
         | no learning to be done. I doubt bacteria feel pain.
        
           | anigbrowl wrote:
           | Evidence suggests bacteria can learn. I'm not suggesting you
           | should feel bad about taking an antibiotic but cellular life
           | is more complex than many people imagine.
           | 
           | https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1154456
        
       | baxtr wrote:
       | I think a more relevant question is: do mosquitoes feel bad about
       | killing humans?
       | 
       | Billions of us, most of them children.
        
         | colordrops wrote:
         | Mosquitos are only one type of countless types of insects, most
         | of which are harmless or even beneficial to humans.
         | 
         | In any case if you are going to have such a war-like attitude,
         | it's the humans that deserve to be destroyed by the animals,
         | not the other way around. We are the ones fucking up the
         | planet.
         | 
         | And we kill almost 100 billion animals a year for food, and who
         | knows how many others from other human activities.
        
           | bbarnett wrote:
           | Humans are animals, very successful ones. The only reason
           | other animals are kept in check, is because they eat their
           | food source until there's too little left to sustain them.
           | 
           | Goats will eat everything bare, locusts destroy everything,
           | beetles ruin forests, beavers dam rivers changing ecosystems
           | so much, it can be seen from space.
           | 
           | Every single lifeform on this planet expands, grows,
           | multiplies without restraint. Animals don't csre one wit
           | about conservation, or balance, or restraint. They never
           | consider such things, ever, beyond filling their belly.
           | 
           | You act as if other animals are somehow noble, yet it is only
           | humans that take deep, strong thought and care about the
           | environment.
        
           | HPsquared wrote:
           | Humans are just another animal though, a lot of animals
           | change the local environment.
        
         | anigbrowl wrote:
         | I don't feel any compunction about killing mosquitoes, but I
         | prefer one good hit with a heavy object and its over. I'd
         | consider it unethical to torture one by dismembering it while
         | it's alive, for example, and I'm not a fan of using poisons.
        
         | yesfitz wrote:
         | How is that more relevant?
        
       | anigbrowl wrote:
       | Descartes' ideas about automatism have had an unhealthy effect on
       | the development of modern society.
        
       | adamgordonbell wrote:
       | http://www.gourmet.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/ma...
       | 
       | Consider the lobster
        
       | kazinator wrote:
       | [delayed]
        
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