[HN Gopher] Piled High: 17th-Century Dutch Banquet Scenes
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Piled High: 17th-Century Dutch Banquet Scenes
Author : prismatic
Score : 19 points
Date : 2025-01-26 17:41 UTC (4 days ago)
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| trgn wrote:
| Highly recommend to go see these sorts of paintings in a city
| palace like https://www.snijdersrockoxhuis.be/en/, subject matter
| and setting complement each other so beautifully.
| kaon_ wrote:
| Interesting read. Maybe a replica, high-quality poster or glass
| print would be a cool ornament in the kitchen or dining room :)
| neeleshs wrote:
| Or a tapestry! (I have one in our dining room)
| yostrovs wrote:
| I noticed that strangely many Dutch still life scenes include
| lemons whose skin has been partially peeled and made to hang from
| the side of the table. Does this have more meaning than just
| showing off access to lemons and ability to draw the shape with
| the peel?
| quuxly wrote:
| I had the same question, after seeing one of my great uncle's
| paintings with a peeled lemon motif. There's a good Reddit
| comment here that goes into a lot of detail:
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/nz47rz/still...
| Galatians4_16 wrote:
| Could they have been used to degrease hands durning the meal?
| csswizardry wrote:
| I'm on-site with a client in The Hague this week--the food and
| drink in this city is phenomenal, so these paintings definitely
| still ring true for me at least.
| kaaskop wrote:
| Interesting, I live in NL now and the food is definitely one of
| my least favorite things here compared to other places I've
| lived.
|
| May I ask what specifically gave you that impression? Any spots
| or dishes in particular?
| yurishimo wrote:
| From my experience after moving here, the Dutch have three
| types of restaurants.
|
| 1. Cheap snack food hole in the walls that sometimes sell pizza
| too. Doner/kebab/fries etc. These are family owned and operated
| and generally just hanging on by a thread financially and it
| shows.
|
| 2. Slightly upscale bistros that are only open for lunch-5pm or
| dinner-10pm. The prices are such that they can support wait
| staff and skilled cooks but fall short of fine dining. Popular
| with middle class folks for a date night. Expect nicer
| serviceware and to spend EUR100 for two people after 1 drink
| each and dessert.
|
| 3. Fine dining with all the bells and whistles.
|
| As a tourist, you often get lured into #2. If you're coming
| from the US, it can seem quite fancy when you compare it to
| chains like Chilis and Olive Garden but the trends become very
| easy to spot after you see it enough times.
|
| But what's nice about #2 is that the staff do actually somewhat
| give a shit about their jobs and make an effort to provide an
| atmosphere that is inviting (gezelligheid). This also extends
| to the food which is artfully plated, even if the ingredients
| aren't anything special.
|
| Enjoy your trip!
| Etheryte wrote:
| As someone who's lived in the Netherlands for quite a long
| while, this is downright funny to read. No offense to the
| Dutch, but food is the last thing they're good at and they're
| pretty infamous for its blandness. Pretty much every good meal
| you can find in the Netherlands is either French, Indonesian,
| or etc. That said, the KLM sandwich is a very fine thing.
| wbl wrote:
| That's primarily an 19th century event and its results, with
| the emphasis on economizing.
| Yeul wrote:
| The Netherlands was rather unique back then for not having any
| starvation or food riots. Lots of dairy products and fish.
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