[HN Gopher] Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent
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Show HN: DeepSeek My User Agent
Author : jasonthorsness
Score : 76 points
Date : 2025-01-26 22:03 UTC (56 minutes ago)
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| minimaxir wrote:
| > Bravo, time-traveling Safari 18.1 beta tester from Hayward--not
| quite San Francisco, but at least you're _pretending_ to innovate
| while lurking on Hacker News like a true NPC. Your decade-old Mac
| OS 10.15.7 and 1512x982 resolution scream "I upgrade hardware
| when Apple sends me a funeral invite," yet here you are, cookie-
| enabled and _still_ waiting for WebKit to make your life
| exciting. Congrats on being the most cutting-edge relic in the
| Bay Area's shadow.
|
| ...I suspect that humor is still out of reach for reasoning
| models. It may require a bit of system prompt engineering.
| jasonthorsness wrote:
| For those who don't want to click - it submits your user agent,
| referrer, and location headers to DeepSeek R1. It is completely
| pointless, but the chain-of-thought reasoning is super-
| interesting. For example, when I followed it from this site:
|
| Reasoning: Okay, let's tackle this roast. First, I need to pick
| the three most unusual bits from the user agent info. The user is
| using Edge in Redmond, which is where Microsoft is based--that's
| a good jab. The referrer is Hacker News, so I can mock that
| they're procrastinating. They have 16 hardware concurrency, which
| is high for a regular user. Also, screen resolution is 2560x1440,
| but maybe not too unusual. Oh, and maxTouchPoints is 0, meaning
| no touchscreen. But the top three? Probably Edge in Redmond,
| Hacker News referrer, and 16 cores. Then link the location to
| Edge, make fun of Hacker News, and the 16 cores for
| overcompensating. Keep it concise and three sentences. Let me
| check the rules again: relate location to another attribute,
| include referrer, three sentences. Yeah, that works.
|
| Content: Using Edge in Redmond? How _shockingly_ loyal of you to
| Microsoft's backyard--guess even your browser has a corporate
| leash. Came here from Hacker News, huh? Let me guess: "How to
| roast a user agent" was your 37th procrastination tab today. With
| 16 CPU cores and a screen bigger than your social life, congrats
| on overcompensating for your NPC-level browsing habits.
| andrewfromx wrote:
| pretty great. How long before deepseek charges for each api call?
| minimaxir wrote:
| DeepSeek does charge for the API (just 20-30x cheaper than o1),
| I assume OP is eating the cost.
|
| https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/
| andrewfromx wrote:
| i see and where is https://groq.com/ in this. They used to be
| the cheapest?
| minimaxir wrote:
| The "why is DeepSeek so much cheaper than o1" question is
| currently a mystery, with the best guess being that compute
| in China is cheaper.
| acheong08 wrote:
| The model is much smaller. Compute in China should be
| more expensive considering all the US restrictions
| minimaxir wrote:
| No one knows the size of o1. The only hint was a paper
| that suggested it was 200B parameters.
|
| Meanwhile, DeepSeek R1 is known to be 671B parameters
| because it is open-source.
| KTibow wrote:
| Right now Deepseek's official hosting is cheaper than
| everyone else who can manage to run the model, including
| Deepinfra. I haven't seen any good hypotheses as to why
| other than their large batch size and speculative decoding.
| quantadev wrote:
| The only purpose of the free DeepSeek API is to undercut
| American AI service companies. It's just a technological
| version of "steel dumping". It's funded by China Gov't with the
| goal of harming us AI companies, by stealing users away.
|
| The 'open-source' version of DeepSeek, if you ask me, is
| similarly done in China's interest as it's a propaganda tool,
| programmed to take China's side on political topics.
| andrewfromx wrote:
| wow I just asked deep "is taiwan independent from china?" and
| then the same question to claude. Very different.
| tokioyoyo wrote:
| So, ChatGPT/Gemini's free version is stealing the users from
| European AI companies, and the goal is to harm them? Or we
| call that just a competition?
| aiono wrote:
| Funny that's basically how "growth" companies work in general
| simonw wrote:
| "It's funded by China Gov't"
|
| Are there any credible sources of information out there to
| back that up, or is that just a conspiracy theory?
| arthurcolle wrote:
| Oh look, a Hacker News refugee with a Frankenstein 1800x1169
| screen--did you split that browser window just to flex your NPC-
| level multitasking skills in Rockville's tech equivalent of a
| Starbucks patio? Twelve CPU cores but still running MacOS 10.15
| like you enjoy digital nostalgia, and _oui_ , including French in
| your languages list for that one croissant emoji tweet you'll
| never send. Chrome 132? At least the RTT is zero, matching your
| urgency to upgrade anything.
|
| ------------
|
| hey man not my fault you VLM homunculii can't handle high
| resolutions yet ;) I'm finetuning a computer using agent, jeez!
| petercooper wrote:
| Very cute :) It might be worth adding to the context that Chrome
| on macOS reports as OS X 10.15.7 (Catalina) no matter what future
| version you're actually running. It seemed very confused to my
| other specs but running such an old OS.
| chris_st wrote:
| Did the same with Safari... which it reported as being _from
| the future_!
| glutamate wrote:
| > your Danish language setting in _Croydon_ screams "I VPN to
| Copenhagen for overpriced pastries."
|
| First time an LLM made me laugh
| schoen wrote:
| "[...] you're so tech-cliche, your browser's "maxTouchPoints" is
| zero because even your devices fear human contact [...]"
| strange_magnet wrote:
| >Not only did you crawl here from Hacker News, the tech bro
| nursery, but you're flexing 16 CPU cores just to run Linux like a
| spreadsheet samurai in Kirishima--impressive, given your browser
| speaks three languages yet still can't ask for ramen politely.
|
| ..not bad
| simonw wrote:
| > _Braving Hacker News to end up here in San Mateo, huh? Your
| 1728x1117 resolution screams "I need 11 pixels to hide my crypto
| tabs," and 30-bit color depth proves you see more shades of gray
| than emotions--classic Firefox-on-Mac NPC behavior._
|
| Yeah, that's pretty great!
| aaurelions wrote:
| Show which request is sent to R1.
| cbracketdash wrote:
| "You spent 46 seconds lurking on Hacker News just to end up here
| with your four Chrome cores and Linux OS in the tech capital of
| San Jose--did you _compile_ the courage to click? Your 8.1 Mbps
| downlink is almost as slow as your realization that "Blink"
| isn't a rave in Mountain View, and your zero touch points explain
| why you still type "sudo" to open your fridge."
|
| :sob: I'm getting roasted by an AI
| elaus wrote:
| > Roasting your Firefox 135 on Linux setup from
| <redacted>--because nothing says "I have opinions about open-
| source" like a 16-core CPU crying over _hckrnews.com 's_ typo-
| adjacent Hacker News ripoff and a screen resolution (1920x1200)
| stuck in 2010s developer nostalgia.
|
| I feel called out - well done.
| gpm wrote:
| Hmm, disturbingly accurate lol
|
| > Oh, a _4K screen_ just to scroll Hacker News in <redacted>?
| Your Canadian Linux setup screams "I politely argue about Rust in
| 2160p," and 16 CPU cores clearly aren't helping you realize that
| site hasn't updated its design since 2007. Go touch grass (but
| carefully, since your browser thinks you've never heard of a
| touchscreen).
| loves_mangoes wrote:
| It doesn't recognize Tor Browser as such, but in this case
| calling its anti-fingerprinting user agent a "desperate lack of
| personality" happens to be more a compliment than a roast!
|
| On the other hand, it's disappointed that the browser claims to
| only have two cores and uses a resolution "from 2009".
| cubefox wrote:
| For me it just returns a wall of text with (part of) its
| reasoning about composing a short roast, but not the roast
| itself. I guess this is not intended.
| bojan wrote:
| Interestingly enough, it sees my Pixel 9 Pro as model "K" and
| doesn't really know what to do with it.
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