[HN Gopher] Viagra-laced 'erectile honey' is flooding into Franc...
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Viagra-laced 'erectile honey' is flooding into France, officials
warn
Author : mschuster91
Score : 31 points
Date : 2025-01-20 19:38 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| stackedinserter wrote:
| Why is it bad? Look at fertility rates, at this point viagra
| should be added to tap water like fluoride.
| haunter wrote:
| Viagra isn't a sexual stimulant, it won't make you horny
| UncleOxidant wrote:
| Nor will it help if infertility is the problem.
| johnnyanmac wrote:
| In a way that a boner doesn't always make you horny, I
| suppose so. But there's various natural and social pressure
| to rid of one.
|
| (I don't necessarily support this, but I can only imagine
| this recall create a short term black market).
| merksoftworks wrote:
| pde5 inhibitors have some dangerous interactions other
| medications. They also give some people headaches, up to and
| including migraines. I agree, they will probably end up in some
| techies nootropic stacks in the near future, I would use them
| for that. But they can cause blood pressure issues.
| Modified3019 wrote:
| Already is, see: https://old.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/search?q
| =Cialis&restrict...
|
| Partial doses of cialis use is also a thing in the
| bodybuilding world
|
| For those curious, be mindful that an all too common side
| effect of pde5 inhibitors like cialis is eventual _tinnitus_
| (even at low doses), which is not worth whatever you are
| hoping gain.
| lm28469 wrote:
| If you think the fertility rate is low because people can't get
| hard I have bad news for you
| ein0p wrote:
| Because it has other side effects, ones it was initially
| designed for: vasodilation. It can, therefore, drop your blood
| pressure to an unsafe level if you take too much, which can be
| deadly.
| potato3732842 wrote:
| Gimme a f-ing break. It's way better for everyone if sketchy gas
| station boner pills and like products have traces real
| medications in them vs whatever unregulated and questionably
| sourced synthetic drugs and supplements they have before.
| jrflowers wrote:
| Eat some of the boner honey and post a trip report if you are
| such a fan of these products
| Dylan16807 wrote:
| Accurate labeling is way way way better.
| bloppe wrote:
| I know someone who ended up in the hospital for taking a normal
| dose of Viagra to counteract coke dick. Turns out that's very
| dangerous. I'd be pretty bummed if I wanted a "natural
| alternative" for this very reason but ended up with cardiac
| arrest
| joecool1029 wrote:
| Yea I'm thinking the viagra wasn't the cause here, maybe
| don't do cocaine if you care about cardiac health.
| Teever wrote:
| You don't think that the use of a prescription medication
| that has an effect on blood flow could have unexpected
| interactions with illicit substances like cocaine and
| whatever else it was cut with?
|
| Why are people so dismissive of the potential side-effects
| of a drug like viagra?
| rscho wrote:
| Viagra absolutely participates. Cocaine causes intense
| arterial constriction, which impedes blood ejection from
| the heart. Viagra causes intense venous dilation, which
| reduces the amount of blood returning to the heart. This
| combination is very well-known and pretty lethal. Such
| cases are seen regularly in the ER. A colleague of mine
| died of it too.
| colechristensen wrote:
| The "natural alternatives" are either bogus or potentially
| dangerous.
|
| There is no such thing as a drug with no negative
| consequences for taking too much.
|
| If some "natural" ingredient has an effect and isn't being
| regulated, who knows how much, how potent, or how consistent
| the dose is.
|
| "Natural" doesn't mean safe.
| lm28469 wrote:
| > X is bad so Y is desirable even if it's also bad
|
| Hm ok...
| Aurornis wrote:
| What a bad false dichotomy.
|
| Nobody should be buying one product and getting different
| ingredients inside.
| mrlonglong wrote:
| Well if they will smoke and drink, they definitely need all the
| help they can get.
| mrlonglong wrote:
| Oh come on, what's a gentle ribbing between the UK and our
| French counterparts?
| xutopia wrote:
| I once took some "natural and organic sleeping ingredients" and
| there was a recall due to it containing a highly potent and
| dangerous prescription only ingredient.
|
| It seems the only times that all natural medication works it's
| laced with allopathic medicine.
| krisoft wrote:
| > It seems the only times that all natural medication works
| it's laced with allopathic medicine.
|
| I don't think that follows from two anecdotes. There is plenty
| of natural remedies which have an effect. Just thinking of the
| simplest, least controversial one: packing citrus fruits for a
| long voyage does indeed prevent scurvy.
| zapkyeskrill wrote:
| Wouldn't you need to consume it at some point? Doubt just
| packing it has the desired effect.
| krisoft wrote:
| You are right.
| Aurornis wrote:
| > It seems the only times that all natural medication works
| it's laced with allopathic medicine
|
| There are a surprising number of herbs that do something within
| the body. However, that something is usually mild and mixed in
| with a large number of other effects. Supplement companies now
| play games where they try to extract, isolate, and condense the
| natural product into those active chemicals with various
| degrees of success, but even the extracts don't escape the
| problems of off-target effects and liver or kidney load.
|
| I was surprised to hear from a doctor about how often they see
| patients who choose traditional Chinese medicine or other
| herbalist practices and end up with elevated liver markers or
| signs of kidney trouble.
|
| The supplement world is also embracing a lot of gray market
| medications now. You can buy "supplements" that are actually
| just experimental drugs that haven't been fully researched yet,
| but some enterprising person had a lab in China synthesized it
| and now sells it on their website.
|
| For a while, supplement vendors were even synthesizing
| commercial drugs and then just selling them as powders,
| amazingly. You could go buy little jars of drugs like Memantine
| (a prescription medication) from supplement vendors. The
| current mod team of /r/Nootropics on Reddit also runs one of
| the popular supplement vendors on Reddit (surprise) and they
| were recently hit for breaking some laws around labeling their
| supplements, which is a slap on the wrist relative to their
| past history of selling full pharmaceuticals, addictive
| substances like phenibut, and opioid medications like
| Tianeptine as "supplements"
|
| Of course, they cracked down on any threads discussing their
| legal troubles on Reddit and they've replaced it with stories
| about how they're actually the victims, with a lot of bans
| being handed out on /r/Nootropics for people who disagreed.
| It's wild to witness how the supplement industry works and how
| effectively they've captured online discussion in their favor.
| Cumpiler69 wrote:
| There is nothing more French than this, except maybe Viagra laced
| cigarettes.
| Dilettante_ wrote:
| "Oh no! Where?"
| matt_s wrote:
| How is this anything remotely "hacker news"? Someone "hacked"
| honey?
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