[HN Gopher] ELIZA Reanimated
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       ELIZA Reanimated
        
       Author : soheilpro
       Score  : 44 points
       Date   : 2025-01-18 07:09 UTC (15 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (arxiv.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (arxiv.org)
        
       | adamgordonbell wrote:
       | Backstory:
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       | https://corecursive.com/eliza-with-jeff-shrager/
        
       | smag wrote:
       | When I was a kid I discovered ELIZA at a museum and spent hours
       | chatting with her, trying to figure out how it worked. It was a
       | lot of fun. Maybe I'll get a second chance.
        
         | 082349872349872 wrote:
         | WHY DID YOU WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT WORKED?
        
       | abrax3141 wrote:
       | This has been picked up by a bunch of tech news sites. On Gizmodo
       | someone wrote: "Hello World. OMG what the fuck happened while I
       | was asleep?!!" Which is funny enough, but of course the next
       | comment in response is: "How does that make you feel?" :-)
        
       | Jun8 wrote:
       | An AI that only answers questions (Siri, Alexa, chatGPT) is a
       | glorified slave, one cannot have a meaningful relationship with
       | it, e.g.
       | (https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/exMachina_script.pdf)
       | AVA         Do you want to be my friend?         CALEB
       | ... Of course.         AVA         Will it be possible?
       | CALEB         Why wouldn't it be?         AVA         Our
       | conversations are one-sided.         You ask circumspect
       | questions, and study my responses.         AVA looks at CALEB
       | directly. Meets his gaze evenly.         AVA (CONT'D)
       | It's true, isn't it?         CALEB          ... Yes.         AVA
       | You learn about me, and I learn nothing about you. That's not a
       | foundation on which friendships are based.
        
         | scarface_74 wrote:
         | Siri, Alexa, etc are in no form or fashion AI.
         | 
         | You give them a list of intents, a list of utterances that
         | should invoke those intents and "slots" that those intents need
         | to fulfill the intent.
         | 
         | An utterance would be "I want to go home".
         | 
         | It would match an utterance to "I want to go $location". That
         | is matched to an intent "get directions" and then you route it
         | to the correct subsystem. If you don't have all of the slots
         | (ie they don't mention the location), you keep asking questions
         | until all of the slots are filled.
         | 
         | Any first year hobbyist programmer can replicate the natural
         | language processing of Siri.
         | 
         | Yes the harder part is converting speech to text.
         | 
         | This is what a more intelligent LLM based system could do.
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42708291
        
         | HexDecOctBin wrote:
         | > An AI that only answers questions (Siri, Alexa, chatGPT) is a
         | glorified slave
         | 
         | This reminds me of the first "conversation" I had with Emacs's
         | ELIZA. I have it saved up since reading it always makes me
         | smile.
         | 
         | https://pastebin.com/raw/cz9Y42Qm
        
         | codr7 wrote:
         | I think you just described today's job market spot on.
        
         | olddustytrail wrote:
         | Meanwhile, back in the real world, it's the exact opposite.
         | 
         | AI asks me a ton of questions to learn about me for better
         | targeted advertising.
        
       | cmcconomy wrote:
       | Bring back Dr. SBAITSO!!
        
       | scarface_74 wrote:
       | My first and only publicly available freeware until 2021 was a
       | HyperCard version of Eliza I wrote it in 1993 and posted to AOL
       | and the ftp Mac shareware archive site.
       | 
       | It led to my first for pay project at a local college when they
       | found it on AOL
       | 
       | http://mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.cdrom.com/pub/cdrom/cdrom...
       | 
       |  _Applications ******************** Professor X 3.0 app
       | /professor-x.hqx
       | 
       | <<My real name that can easily be found by following the link.
       | But I doubt it will be found via search as easily as it showing
       | up on HN>>
       | 
       | 26 Jul 1993 Simulates a psychotherapist.
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       | Have you ever talked to your computer, has your computer ever
       | talked back? If you have used a program like Eliza then you
       | probably were stunned at first and then quickly became tired of
       | limited responses and responses that didn't make any sense. If
       | you haven't, then you are in for a treat. Professor X simulates a
       | very understanding, usually nonjudgemental, psychotherapist. It's
       | a very short download give it try_
        
       | abrax3141 wrote:
       | A different team previously reanimated Cosell's Lisp ELIZA:
       | https://sites.google.com/view/elizagen-org/eliza-clones
        
         | adamgordonbell wrote:
         | Same team I think.
        
       | norir wrote:
       | Highly recommend that anyone interested in ai and/or Eliza read
       | Joseph Wizenbaum's (creator of Eliza) book "Computer Power and
       | Human Reason." It holds up remarkably well for a book written in
       | 1976 about ai.
        
       | rasengan0 wrote:
       | $emacs
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       | MX doctor
       | 
       | enter prompt, type RET twice to submit
       | 
       | pass output to https://github.com/rupertl/eliza-ctss or modern
       | llms
        
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