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Setting Up an RK3588 SBC QEMU Hypervisor with ZFS on Debian
Author : kumiokun
Score : 66 points
Date : 2025-01-16 08:31 UTC (14 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (blog.kumio.org)
| Havoc wrote:
| Had similar stability issues on a related board - orange pi 5
| plus. Specifically wouldn't reliably come back up on soft reboot
|
| Also there is apparently an arm port of proximity but haven't
| tried it
| kumiokun wrote:
| So far have not seen stability issues on the mentioned 6.12
| current-rockckip-rk3588 kernel but time will tell!
| Havoc wrote:
| Hmm. Will give that a go in next install.
|
| Other issue I hit was ssh dropping out (but other ports
| staying online). Think that may be a software bug though
| simpleTaffy wrote:
| Is proximity another Virtualization tool? A quick search didn't
| come up with anything, that's why I'm asking.
| tekchip wrote:
| I assume that's an autocorrect for Proxmox. There is/was a
| Proxmox porting attempt out there.
|
| I use Orange Pi 5 Plus in my home lab and I've found their
| builds of Debian are rock solid though a bit sus hosted in a
| Gdrive and pulling updates from Huawei repos instead of
| official. They do tend to be one or two kernel versions ahead
| of Armbian so it's unclear if the added stability is due to
| kernel version or some other patches and secret sauce. It has
| been quite some time since I've tried it. Ops 6.12 is well
| newer than the 6.7 or 8 last time I attempted Proxmox.
|
| I've also found a lot of instability in what SSD you choose.
| Things are real bad on Samsung but after some research the
| Lexar nm790 is especially low power and this seems to have
| resolved my instabilities. There seems to be some kind of
| power handling issues on the oPi 5 Plus.
| Havoc wrote:
| Yeah that was a cellphone autocorrect typo - sorry
| TacticalCoder wrote:
| > Had similar stability issues on a related board
|
| No ECC for an hypervisor running VMs is scary too.
|
| Although ZFS is still useful even without ECC.
| kumiokun wrote:
| Author here! Currently taking requests for follow-ups you'd like
| to see for this budding blog where we will stand up cloud
| together. (Including you Intel N-series diehards, if you flame
| hard enough I might write something for you too ;) Seriously
| though I think both platforms have their use-cases. Here we get
| more cores per buck and less power per node)
| phoronixrly wrote:
| Kudos for being the author of one of the very few homelab-
| related posts on HN that does not boil down to just a poor use
| of a raspberry pi.
|
| I would like to see projects with more, and specifically more
| diverse and open-source friendly SoCs, based on Allwinner for
| lower cost stuff (Olimex-produced SBCs), Mediatek for higher
| price/performance (banana pi, and especially for the WiFi
| chipsets, it's about time we stopped with the closed Broadcom
| stuff)
| nonrandomstring wrote:
| Good work. Probably still a bit precarious for me to try at the
| moment but the idea of low power SBCs with virt capabilities is
| intriguing as I like to run very thin VMs to encapsulate a single
| small application.
| Thev00d00 wrote:
| Or buy a RPI where you get software that actually works and is
| supported.
| 3np wrote:
| With 32G RAM? Besides, manufacturer diversity is a good thing.
| "Just buy X" comments need to die.
| ducktective wrote:
| On software side, RPi (or intel N100 for that matter) is the
| winner but take a look at RK3588 datasheet [1] and tell me of
| an Arm or x86 SBC that tops what it offers. It even comes with
| a NPU lol
|
| [1]: https://www.rock-
| chips.com/uploads/pdf/2022.8.26/192/RK3588%...
| sigmaris wrote:
| An NPU with no driver support in the main Linux kernel, only
| in a vendor-provided fork containing dubious-quality drivers:
|
| https://forum.radxa.com/t/lack-of-concern-for-security-in-
| bs...
|
| https://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2024/03/rockchip-npu-
| update-1-w...
| frankharv wrote:
| You really think RockPi5 is an SBC on par with Advantech and
| Aaeon?
|
| As a Rock3A owner I can say no. It may look like a real SBC
| but it is not.
| tekchip wrote:
| Software support being hand hold-y is nice and all but entirely
| pointless if the hardware isn't performant enough to run the
| workloads you want/need.
| nubinetwork wrote:
| The kernel/dtb support was what held me back from buying a Turing
| Pi 2, I'm still debating on buying something ampere based
| instead... the rk3588 has been out for ages, I don't see what the
| holdup is getting it mainlined.
| buckle8017 wrote:
| rockchip doesn't really care about mainline support
| bpye wrote:
| Collabora, thankfully, do -
| https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-
| enablement/rockchip-35...
| jauntywundrkind wrote:
| There's been solid progress.
|
| But Rockchip is no longer selling to SBC folk & no longer
| participating at all in mainlining.
|
| Theres almost no one left to buy chips from, basically. Hope
| everyone's happy using rpi forever, cause that's where 2025 has
| left us. :/
|
| MediaTek has some Genio chips they're starting to make
| available but explorer boards are quite expensive. These new
| Cix people have an incredible looking 8x A720, which Radxa is
| using on an upcoming Orion O6 board. But man it is just so sad
| to see company after company after company collapse & disappear
| from making chips usable by SBC.
|
| https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/12/21/rockchip-rk3588-main...
| Fnoord wrote:
| When you start wanting decent RAM, SBC end up being
| expensive.
|
| Kontron (Fujitsu) have some very low-power, efficient
| motherboard, the Kontron K3843-B. Also, Odroid-H4+ deliver a
| good bang for the buck. Excellent devices for low-power NAS /
| server. But a different form-factor than SBC.
| sixdonuts wrote:
| Good stuff - thanks for sharing. IaC and containers are great but
| having the ability to run multiple VMs and create snapshots prior
| to performing upgrades or security patches is still very helpful
| from an operational perspective.
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