[HN Gopher] Cosmos Keyboard: Scan your hand, build a keyboard
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Cosmos Keyboard: Scan your hand, build a keyboard
Author : cdata
Score : 362 points
Date : 2025-01-13 17:42 UTC (2 days ago)
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| uticus wrote:
| some info came across discord for https://cyboard.digital/ about
| this last year, very similar concept.
| dbalatero wrote:
| I have 2 Cyboard 6x6 keyboards, printed with a Kinesis layout
| (so I can get the arrow keys on the lower row) and customized
| to my hand.
|
| The customization/website wasn't as fancy - I just sent in
| photos of my hand - but that's ok.
|
| I really love the quality, and the owner is super nice,
| responsive, and has great service.
| tomtom1337 wrote:
| Ive used this several times, I paid for pro. Really like it!
| Check out the hand recognition, it's super cool (albeit, not
| terribly useful).
|
| There's a very active and helpful community on discord too.
| karmajunkie wrote:
| do you end up with a finished keyboard or is this giving you
| DIY plans?
| egypturnash wrote:
| It looks like it gives you DIY plans but there is also an
| option to get a finished keyboard - this leads to a page with
| some error messages in it though.
| nom wrote:
| No, please, I don't have the time for this, why does it have to
| be so cool :cry:
| cassianoleal wrote:
| Cosmos is awesome. Ryan is a lovely and incredibly helpful on his
| Discord. The community built around it is quite chilled out and
| helpful as well.
| replwoacause wrote:
| This looks awesome but I think I'm paralyzed by all of the
| possibilities. My Kinesis Advantage 2 has served me well for
| years. I wonder if anyone has switched from one to a custom
| board?
| maxyurk wrote:
| checkout https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/
| eawgewag wrote:
| I've done the switch! My 2c:
|
| If the Kinesis is working for you, I would not switch. It's an
| extremely high quality board and most of these Dactyl's are all
| attempts to replicate the Kinesis at a more accessible price
| point and/or with higher amounts of customizability. The
| tradeoff is that they tend to be extremely fragile, have really
| poor build quality, and have zero to none customer support
| attached.
|
| However, the KA doesn't work for everybody. I find it too big
| and the switches too heavy. So I opted for a custom approach,
| which sadly only survived about 4 months.
| danieldk wrote:
| I switched from a Kinesis Advantage 2 to a Glove80 over 1.5
| years ago (not custom, I know) and I love it.
|
| I also made some Dactyl Manuforms, but their key wells are not
| as nice as the Advantage, let alone the Glove80. They also have
| pretty bad thumb clusters (though with Cosmos it's
| configurable), not a good palm rest, etc. The only custom board
| I would be interested in (if the Glove didn't happen) would be:
|
| https://github.com/wizarddata/Ergo-S-1
|
| Since it also seems to have good palm rests, etc.
| dbalatero wrote:
| I switched to a Cyboard Imprint, and had them print me a 6x6
| Kinesis-style layout. They had me take hand photos and tweaked
| the print to my hand.
|
| My reasons to switch were:
|
| - better thumb cluster (more buttons reachable)
|
| - split keyboard (better ergo placement)
|
| - slightly optimized key placement (nice to have)
|
| - QMK firmware (good for a laugh, fun to hack, can program
| hyper/super keys into firmware)
| ge96 wrote:
| The UI and color palette for the site is cool. The 3D tech is
| neat too, I'm not personally a fan of these keyboard designs
| (fine with 65% single mech) but really great software.
| pryelluw wrote:
| what keyboard do you currently use?
| ge96 wrote:
| I am not that hardcore of a mech keyboard person where I
| build my own/lube switches.
|
| I primarily use a Durgod Hades 68, I have to have the
| dedicated arrow keys on the bottom right. I have a bunch of
| others similar design. My problem was instead of buying as
| switch tester I started buying random keyboards with
| different switches so I now have too many. I also used to use
| the Apple magic keyboards those small ones with a cylinder
| battery holder.
| __MatrixMan__ wrote:
| I love this... almost.
|
| My daily driver is a planck (flat rectangle, no num row) which I
| designed to lighten the load on my pinkies. I moved the left
| alpha keys further left and the right alpha keys futher right, so
| I have two columns in the center which I use for
| Ctrl,Alt,<,>,[,],(, and ). These get different keycaps so I can
| navigate it by texture. I love it, using other keyboards my
| pinkies always start to hurt after a while, but with this thing I
| can really crank.
|
| I'd like to depart from the flat rectangle form factor, while
| keeping all of the things I love about my planck, and using
| advanced mode here I was able to get pretty darn close. What's
| missing is the bottom left and right corner keys, which I
| consider "palm-press" keys. If I disable the num row and enable
| the inner keys, the outermost columns only have three keys. I'd
| appreciate a checkbox that gave them four, with the fourth
| awkwardly low for pinky use but accessible for a "palm" press
| (not sure if the meaty part under the knuckle counts as the palm
| but that's what I mean anyway).
|
| With the right curvature there's probably also opportunity to do
| the same thing under the index knuckle.
| rianadon wrote:
| If you select one of the keys in the keyboard preview on the
| right, you can add and move keys around to wherever you like :)
| That should allow you to put keys under your knuckle.
|
| Speaking of palm presses, someone shared a "palmtyl" design
| with several keys under the palm in the discord (here's a
| video: https://youtu.be/D8ev08mnSmg). It's an interesting way
| of squeezing in more keys without requiring finger travel.
| __MatrixMan__ wrote:
| very cool, thanks
| lawn wrote:
| I used this generator to build myself my own keyboard and the
| tool was extremely helpful. I went through a bunch of prototypes
| and I don't think it's possible to create a customized keyboard
| for yourself in one attempt.
|
| I made a fairly extensive build log from start to finish
| including how I got the integrated trackball to work together
| with QMK here:
|
| https://www.jonashietala.se/blog/2024/11/26/building_my_ulti...
| Jugglernaut wrote:
| Very nice write up of the process, thank you. Are you happy
| with it now that som time has passed?
| lawn wrote:
| Yes, I'm extremely happy with it.
| lawn wrote:
| Jugglernaut: your comment is dead so I can't respond, but yes
| I'm extremely happy with it. I don't feel a need to change
| anything.
| rianadon wrote:
| Author here. It's a surprise seeing this posted while I'm in the
| middle of traveling. Happy to answer any questions! If you're
| curious, the tech stack is static assets bundled with
| sveltekit/vite and hosted on gitlab pages + a minimal go backend.
| AndrewHampton wrote:
| I used this to build my current keyboard a few months ago. It
| was my first hand-wired keyboard, and this made it much more
| approachable. Thanks for creating it!
| Pet_Ant wrote:
| It could really use a way to control the spread of the button
| around the track ball. Just to make them closer together. The
| palmrest should also grow wider when columns are added to the
| keyboard.
|
| Also, would be great to have an option of adding a USB hub on
| the inner edge for plugging in a USB key or adding a USB plug
| on the outside for a mouse.
| rianadon wrote:
| On the advanced tab, you can adjust the vertical spacing of
| the thumb cluster to move keys closer together. As for USB
| hubs, at some point I need to draw a line and stop adding
| options. You can download a STEP file of the keyboard and
| edit it in CAD, or if you're looking for something easier to
| learn, I recommend editing the STL file in tinkercad. If you
| don't mind plugging in the mouse to the back, you can
| configure custom-sized connector cutouts in advanced mode.
| utopcell wrote:
| Great work @rianadon!
| boomskats wrote:
| What you've built is a work of art, it blew my mind the first
| time I came across it. I love the completeness of vision
| (boomboom tss).
|
| I've only just realised that you've opensourced it all so I
| haven't looked at the code yet, but a couple of Qs:
|
| - is there anything that the old wave your fingers at the
| screen pose detect model did better the new screenpalm method?
| I always wondered if you were detecting the angle of motion
| (pronation?) for each finger to tilt its keywell, and I guess
| it's maybe harder to do that with the new method.
|
| - have you ever thought about using the measurements for one
| hand to spot measurement outliers in the other? Would it ever
| make sense to generate a symmetrical keyboard from the combined
| measurements of both hands?
|
| - have you thought about collaborating with other keyboard
| designers to add their designs to the app and give them a cut?
| For example the Cygnus[0] is a stunning keyboard; I'm not sure
| if it is parametrically generated, but I do remember thinking
| that I'd absolutely pay money to get one tailored to my hand
| geometry, and then wondering whether you could ever pull off
| building a designer marketplace/ecosystem out of the whole
| thing, maybe with a little sdk. It's one thing that the
| aliexpress copycat sellers can't copy.
|
| Also somehow only just realised that you have a blog. I might
| go read it.
|
| [0]: https://kbd.news/Cygnus-1.0-2307.html
| rianadon wrote:
| Thanks so much! Answering your great qs:
|
| 1) I still have the waving your fingers stage (it's after the
| screenpalm), but it now walks you through different finger
| motions so that the results are more consistent than waving
| your fingers all around. It's detecting then angle of motion,
| but I'm so far only using this for building the 3D hand
| model. The old method had better UX and fewer bugs, but the
| new one will more accurately measure the size of your hand.
|
| 2) I've never thought of that! I sometimes generate
| symmetrical keyboards for myself, simply because it's easier
| to edit when both sides are synced. But I ultimately think
| it's better to fit each hand independently.
|
| 3) The cygnus keyboard is super cool. I've made one and
| modified the STEP file to change the sockets. The fusion 360
| files for it are published, so it likely has some
| parametrization but not anywhere close enough to achieve the
| flexibility of the Cosmos model.
|
| There's a tradeoff between customizability and how perfect
| the keyboard looks and feels. I've opted to go all-in on
| customizability, because to my knowledge no other keyboard
| design does this. I make as few assumptions about your
| keyboard as I can, so that Cosmos works with a single key,
| small mouse-like modules with a trackpad/ball and a few keys,
| or a proper keyboard shape. The downside is that what I'm
| doing is akin to teaching a robot to paint, whereas I'd
| compare designs like the Cygnus that place more constraints
| on the keyboard shape to a human painting. Until AI becomes
| sufficiently skilled at 3D design, the human painting will be
| more creative and skilled than the robot, and I can't bridge
| both types of design.
| culebron21 wrote:
| 1. What about a thumb cluster with 4 keys in a row? IDK if it's
| workable, maybe not. My experience with Ergodox says pressing
| top row on thumb cluster is too clumsy. (Maybe it's easier with
| dactyl-like keyboards?)
|
| 2. On Ergodox EZ, and non-English layout, I need more keys.
| Unfortunately, the right side corner of ISO keyboard has to be
| distributed among other places on Ergodox EZ. (I'd love to have
| home/pgup/pgdn/end column somewhere, like on laptops. Maybe the
| rightmost end of kbd is not the best place for it, IDK.)
|
| 3. Adding extra row/column causes lower row collide with the
| thumb cluster. I guess, it's reasonable, but I don't know
| what's the workaround. (remove the lower row completely?)
| https://imgur.com/a/vdfOLq1
|
| Good idea about finger scanning.
|
| I tried the scan the hand and simulate features. Will the
| editor make different halves of the keyboard?
|
| Also, thumb bends differently than in the simulator. :)
| culebron21 wrote:
| to be clear about non-English layout in ErgoDox EZ. In ISO
| keyboard, there are 3 keys (two square brackets and foot/inch
| key), that don't fit in EZ's main keys block. I got 2 options
| for them:
|
| 1. Put them on the rightmost column, but it's unclear where
| the `]` has to go -- lower, or upper.
|
| 2. Use the rightmost wide column of keys for some special
| keys (like home/pgup/pgdn/end), but have to redistribute
| these 3 keys elsewhere.
| tpmoney wrote:
| Not sure the specific problems with a non-english layout,
| but if it helps with some ideas this is the layout I use
| for my keyboard (so far)[1].
|
| [ and ] go on the inner columns on either side and '/" goes
| where it normally would be on an ansi qwerty layout.
|
| The page up/down and home/end keys live on a temporary
| (hold) layer under the arrow keys, which is a habit I
| picked up from many years of using mac laptops where fn +
| arrow keys is how you get those keys anyway.
|
| Layers 0 and 3 are the really important ones, 1 and 2 are
| just the defaults from Ergodox. And while they are
| assigned, I currently haven't been using the capslock, the
| lower-left ', the lower-right [ ] and cmd+enter keys or the
| Meh key so those would be freed up for use if needed. I
| also turned on the "auto-shift" functionality, so if you
| liked that it would also free up the left and right shifts
| for other use.
|
| The letter layout is "middlemak"[2] which I found to be
| more comfortable than qwerty or colemak on the ortholinear
| layout, and a bit easier to learn than colemak because it
| shares a lot of keys with qwerty. But that may not be
| relevant for you if you're using a non-english key set.
|
| [1]: https://configure.zsa.io/ergodox-ez-
| st/layouts/pNO0G/latest/... [2]:
| https://www.reddit.com/r/Middlemak/
| culebron21 wrote:
| Interesting layout. I see I forgot the `=` also does not
| fit in ED-EZ.
|
| My problem with it is 1) lack of F11 & F12. 2) important
| keys in upper row of the thumb block. How do you press
| those keys without stopping everything and looking at the
| kbd?
| tpmoney wrote:
| I've been thinking of adding F11 and F12 (and F13) to the
| keys under `Del` on layer 3 (basically the same thing ED
| does by default on layer 1). As for the thumb block, that
| took me some time to work out because I thought hitting
| all those buttons would be easier than it is. So what you
| see is effectively my attempt to duplicate as many
| buttons in places that generally make them fit the
| combinations I need to hit when I need to hit them.
|
| On the left side, `Cmd` is the first button because on a
| mac, that's the most important modifier key and that
| position is the "natural" position for my hands.
|
| Next `enter` (or really on a mac, `return`) with the
| alternative function of being `Ctrl` if held down. I
| rarely need `Cmd + Ctrl` but those two are pretty big
| tagets and easy to mash together.
|
| For the smaller buttons, the layer switch is accessible
| without a large hand shift, so that is why its in its
| position at the bottom.
|
| Above I have `Option/Alt` and `Ctrl` above that. The idea
| is not to use those all that often, but to use them if I
| need `Ctrl + Alt` or need the `Alt` key and can't use the
| one on the right side for some reason. If I need to use
| these two in that position, I do usually have to look at
| the keys (though currently as I work through learning
| middlemak... I'm looking at the keys a lot anyway).
|
| Finally `Del` is where it is mostly because it doesn't
| require a huge hand shift (though I usually press with my
| index finger instead of thumb), and I liked having a
| forward delete on a dedicated key. Again bearing in mind
| I'm used to typing on laptop keyboards/75% layouts, so my
| other usual is `Fn + Backspace` for a forward delete, so
| needing to shift my hand isn't a huge concern for me.
|
| On the right side, the same thought went into laying
| things out in a way that made sense for my habitual
| modifier usage while being as redundant as possible. On
| the far right, space obviously, again in the position
| that's most "natural" to my hands.
|
| Followed by another `enter/return` with again the
| alternate function, this time of `Option/Alt` when held.
| Having two enter keys isn't something I make a lot of use
| of (I don't alternate which hand is enter when typing for
| example) but it allows me to make use of that alternate
| functionality and still be able to hit enter with a
| modifier held down and no need to move my hands or find
| one of the harder to hit keys. `Option/Alt` takes this
| position because Ctrl has it on the other side and also
| because my most common `Option + ${key}` combos are
| `Option + Left/Right Arrow` for skipping by word and the
| arrows are on the other half so no weird hand contortions
| (and again, coming from a laptop, I usually did that with
| two hands anyway. Incidentally, this also means I can use
| the layer3 hold on the left hand, and option + the arrows
| in the letter cluster (ijkl on a qwerty layout) that I
| programmed into layer 3 if I really need to do a lot of
| arrowing around.
|
| `Cmd` sits in the lower left because again, it's the most
| common modifier in macOS. I don't often need the left
| side one, but it gets more ease of access than ctrl
| because when I need it, I need it.
|
| `Ctrl` sits above option and again, the aim here isn't to
| use it on its own. In this case, the position allows me
| to shift my thumb up slightly and easily hit a `Ctrl +
| Alt` key combination (and for that matter shifting left
| instead of up gives a pretty easy `Cmd + Option`
|
| Lastly Pg Up/Dn are there because I like having dedicated
| buttons for them instead of needing a layer shift. I
| don't often use them during a typing session but more for
| paging through docs or reference material, so usually my
| hands are off the keys in the first place, and needing to
| look at them if I'm not finding it by quick feel isn't a
| huge problem for me.
|
| I should also say this is probably by 5th or 6th
| iteration on those clusters and it will probably change
| more in the future. I'm slowly honing in to something
| that I really like, but it has taken some serious paying
| attention to what I actually do. My first attempt was a
| lot more "normal" with a row of modifiers in order, or my
| second attempt that put the modifiers all on the small
| keys and used the larger ones for more layer shifts
| (hence all the Cmd + Key items on layer 3). Turns out I'm
| not a huge fan of constantly switching layers, probably
| because I'm a terrible touch typist who on a regular
| qwerty keyboard mostly uses just 3 fingers on each hand
| so keeping my hands in one place and letting the keys
| "come to me" with layeer shifts feels wrong.
| James_K wrote:
| Just got a Cantor Remix keyboard myself. Might have checked this
| out otherwise, but a big advantage of the flat designs is they
| fit in my pocket.
| Cieric wrote:
| This makes me want to go back to making a custom keyboard again.
| The feature to scan your hands is interesting, but I can't seem
| to get it to work at all. I got it to measure the length of my
| digits, but when it came to measuring how flexible they are I
| could never get it to complete. On top of that the detection
| seemed to freak out a lot and the right hand model was screwed
| up. Overall this does seem really cool, but more something I'll
| bookmark to try later.
| MaxGripe wrote:
| I've had so many keyboards that I can't even count them. I've
| owned five mechanical ones alone. Out of the ergonomic ones, I've
| only had one - a Microsoft and it was pretty nice. Almost all of
| them have been replaced because they broke. Either the keys stop
| working (most often) or the stabilizers start failing.
|
| In my opinion, the best keyboards are the ones that are very easy
| to clean :) Ideally, switches should be chosen based on your
| hands since everyone has different preferences. I'm currently
| using Keychron K5 SE ultra-slim with Low Profile Optical hot-
| swappable "Banana" switches, and it's the most comfortable
| keyboard I've ever had -- and it's not even that expensive (for a
| mechanical keyboard). Before that, I had SteelSeries' top model,
| and it broke after about a year.
|
| Building custom keyboards is next-level, and I think I'll pass on
| that. What matters most is that it's comfortable to type on and
| easy to clean. A piece of advice for beginners: don't buy
| keyboards from Logitech or Apple. They're overrated and not worth
| their price.
| MrLeap wrote:
| I feel like I am your hardware destroying cousin. For me it's
| mice, not keyboards.
|
| I've had the same keyboard for like a decade, but I go through
| mice every 3-6 months. I've tried logitech / corsair / no-name
| / razor. 90% of the time I replace a mouse because of phantom
| double clicks or the mouse3 button just ceasing to work.
|
| More rarely, the mouse will reconnect cycle over and over, or
| the scroll wheel will break.
|
| I don't THINK I abuse them, but my body count indicates maybe
| I'm too hard on them and don't know it.
|
| Maybe we need hardware that'll give us data on how mean we are
| to them so we can gain perspective. :p
| garyfirestorm wrote:
| ummmm what? I have had an MX Master Mouse for over 8 years
| and as an automotive engineer i have dropped it numerous
| times while testing vehicles, inside the vehicle, while
| getting out of the vehicle, just walking from desk to the
| cars in parking lots... and it still survived 8 years! what
| are you doing to your mouse exactly?
| MrLeap wrote:
| I click a lot? I don't feel like I'm putting the hammer to
| them. They just all die.
| pedroma wrote:
| I've never broken a mechanical keyboard, but I have gone
| through a few mice. None of my MX mice (MX Master, MX
| Anywhere) have failed, but only gaming mice. I have a
| feeling gaming mice just aren't built to last, especially
| in recent years as brands have chased lighter and lighter
| mice, likely sacrificing durability.
| gffrd wrote:
| I've had many mice, and I've never had one fail. I've got
| mice that are over 20 years old and still work.
|
| So unless you are the hulk and not aware of it, I have to
| wonder if something else in your environment is affecting
| them.
|
| Do you buy them all from the same retailer? Do you live
| underwater? Or next to a high power transmission
| station?!
| michaelmrose wrote:
| Logitechs high end mice are lovely to use but garbage
| build quality. That little spring under left button gives
| out far too easily.
|
| Its possible I click hard and certainly they got above
| average use but 3 died in 5 or 6 years
| 0x38B wrote:
| Kailh GM 8.0 (1) switches are supposed to be long-
| lasting. The switches in my Logitech mouse started to
| fail so I replaced them with the GM 8.0s - they are very
| clicky and still going strong.
|
| If I was to order more, I'd go with softer switches - the
| GM 8.0 is a tad hard to click for games with repetitive
| clicking.
|
| 1: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256804334576149.html
|
| ---
|
| I destroyed my beloved Logitech trackball's PCB trying to
| desolder its switches, which had become unreliable, but
| for the mouse, saw someone on YouTube heat all three
| leads of the switch at once until they could lift it
| straight off the PCB - this was far easier than trying to
| clean the solder off each lead and made the process
| almost easy.
| nsxwolf wrote:
| Do they make them the same as they did 8 years ago? It
| seems that whenever I want to replace a product I really
| enjoyed 10 years ago, the replacement is a cost-reduced
| piece of junk.
| gh02t wrote:
| Counterpoint/anecdata, I've had 3 MX Master mice and 2 died
| in under a year and the third lasted about 2 weeks past the
| 2 year warranty expiration. And this was babying them, no
| mistreatment.
|
| I gave up and switched to a clone (Rapoo MT760) that I
| actually like more.
| m000 wrote:
| Maybe it's time you switch to a trackball.
| zdragnar wrote:
| I'm the trackball destroying cousin. I have yet to have one
| last two years in the last 10 or 12 years since I switched
| from mice.
| mrich wrote:
| What is breaking? FYI, you need to remove the ball from
| time to time and remove the dust that might be blocking
| the optical sensors.
| zdragnar wrote:
| Usually sensors stop working. I had a Kensington
| slimblade whose tracking light just stopped turning on,
| for example. No amount of cleaning will bring it back.
| m000 wrote:
| Literally less than two years? In the EU you are probably
| eligible for a replacement, especially if some non-moving
| part (like sensors you mention below) fails.
|
| I would prefer of course if producers made their products
| more sturdy (less e-waste).
| blangk wrote:
| You can disassemble and replace mouse switches quite easily
| and very cheaply if you already own a soldering iron and some
| basic tools - mouse switch failure is the typical reason for
| misclick double click problem
| MrLeap wrote:
| This is a skill I would benefit to learn.
| jeremyjh wrote:
| But this is just because mice are terrible. Trackpad is so
| much better.
| veunes wrote:
| "You've clicked Mouse1 2.3 million times and scrolled 12
| miles this month. Chill out!"
| __mharrison__ wrote:
| I've had a CST trackball mouse for about 10 years with no
| problem...
|
| /end anecdata
| arkh wrote:
| It may be due to the hardware most constructors use and how
| they use it.
|
| If you're ready for 1h of info on some switch and how they're
| misused in mice enjoy this in-depth video:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5BhECVlKJA
|
| I think the gaming mouse market is ripe for a ruggerized
| mouse with only optional software which does not require some
| account creation if you don't want to. If you could make it
| cheap enough you could call it the 2CV.
| misiek08 wrote:
| I'm using very niche mouse nowadays - Bloody. Weirdly they
| work ok, they have (IMHO) good parameters, if you are not a
| gaming master race. I was using two of them, each for 3 years
| and changed only because I lost replacement for the "legs".
| Also the first one started to loose some material on the
| button - probably because of cleaning spray I was using.
| veunes wrote:
| It's frustrating how even premium brands can break down so
| quickly
| jugg1es wrote:
| the microsoft ergonomic kb is vastly underrated
| Pet_Ant wrote:
| I've always wanted this and had daydreamed of building this
| before!. If it supports QMK and ortholinear, I'll have to get
| this. I've always dreamed of building a keyboard into the arm
| rests of my chair.
| Carrok wrote:
| I've tried the arm rest thing. Not very comfortable
| unfortunately. At least for me.
| DoctorOetker wrote:
| Are there any decent open source datagloves?
| danieldk wrote:
| You mean Datahand? There is lalboard:
| https://github.com/JesusFreke/lalboard (there is also
| Svalboard, but I don't think it is open source).
| 4b11b4 wrote:
| I've been waiting for someone to do this...
| IncreasePosts wrote:
| Once I scan my hand, does this mean the creator will be able to
| check out as me at whole foods?
| veunes wrote:
| Hmm, this is definitely intriguing but how accurate is that hand
| scan? And will the resulting keyboard really feel that much
| better than a standard ergonomic setup?
| unfixed wrote:
| I would buy a Glove80 again instead of going through the hassle
| of building my own keyboard.
|
| Maybe I would lose some personalization, but I would keep my
| sanity.
| lawn wrote:
| It's really not that bad IMO. It takes some effort for sure,
| but not enough to become insane...
| culebron21 wrote:
| Just duckduckwent it, and turned out I had seen it already. My
| doubt about it is how do you press Shift+F12?
| flowingfocus wrote:
| The layout is fully customizable. That being said I just
| stick with the default, works well for me.
|
| By default F12 is on the lower layer "V" key.
|
| https://docs.moergo.com/glove80-user-guide/typing-with-
| glove...
| crimsoneer wrote:
| This is disgustingly cool, and if I wasn't already very settled
| on my Voyager I'd be all over it
| ryanthedev wrote:
| Love the domain name.
| rak wrote:
| I might have missed it but do the designs come with pcb as well?
| neves wrote:
| it's fun. How does the MX, Choc, and Alps switches compare? Do
| you have personal preferences?
| epiccoleman wrote:
| Forget how cool the keyboards are (they are very cool) - this
| website is just awesome in so many ways. There are like, 5 things
| on here that made me say "wow, I didn't know a web browser could
| do _that_ " as I went through the setup. The hand scanning, the
| parametric 3d modeling, the WebRTC stuff for establishing comms
| with my phone?! Even if you've got no interest in weird crazy
| keyboards, this site is just a great tech demo for some of the
| wild stuff a web browser can do these days.
|
| I've got half a keeb printed that I generated here, I really need
| to restart that project at some point...
| jweather wrote:
| Hand scan doesn't work for me in Chrome on Windows (waiting for
| first frame), but it did load on Edge. Stuck in the hand poses.
| What does this mean: "Stretch out your hands, point your
| fingertips towards each other, and rotate your palms downwards."
| I tried everything I could think of, but it won't advance.
| th3w3bmast3r wrote:
| This is fucking lit! I can only imagine the amount of work went
| into building something like this. Also, nice domain name :)
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