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       GPT-4o with scheduled tasks (jawbone) is available in beta
        
       Author : TheJCDenton
       Score  : 22 points
       Date   : 2025-01-14 22:25 UTC (34 minutes ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (chatgpt.com)
        
       | PittleyDunkin wrote:
       | Where are the release notes?
       | 
       | Edit: I suppose they'll be here at some point:
       | https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9624314-model-release-no...
       | 
       | These seem like extremely shitty release notes. I have no clue
       | why anybody pays for this model.
        
         | TheJCDenton wrote:
         | Nothing yet
        
       | cbeach wrote:
       | I'm sure it's brilliant, but I have no idea what it's capable of.
       | What will it do? Send me a push notification? Have an answer
       | waiting for me when I come back to it in a while?
       | 
       | I switched over to the "GPT4o with scheduled tasks" model and
       | there were no UI hints as to how I might use the feature. So I
       | asked it "what you can you follow up later on and how?"
       | 
       | It replied "Could you clarify what specifically you'd like me to
       | follow up on later?"
       | 
       | This is a truly awful way to launch a new product.
        
         | benaduggan wrote:
         | After asking it to schedule something, it prompted me to allow
         | or block notifications, so sounds like this is just chatGPT
         | scheduling push notifications? We'll see!
        
           | jerpint wrote:
           | So basically canibalizing Siri ?
        
         | cbeach wrote:
         | Ah, I've just stumbled on some hints after clicking around..
         | click on your avatar image (top right) and then click "Tasks"
         | 
         | Then there are some UI hints.
         | 
         | "Remind me of your mom's birthday on [X] date"
         | 
         | Wow, really maximising that $10bn GPU investment!
        
           | danpalmer wrote:
           | Glad to see that the thriving 2010 market of TODO list apps
           | will see a resurgence in the AI era.
        
       | TheJCDenton wrote:
       | There is an editable tasks list and in the settings menu you can
       | choose to receive notifications via push and/or email.
        
       | zb3 wrote:
       | The link doesn't work, presumably because I won't pay OpenAI
       | which stole my API credits by making them have an "expiration
       | date".
        
       | dmadisetti wrote:
       | The beta is inconsistently showing (required a few refreshes to
       | get something to show up), but my limited usage of it showed a
       | plethora of issues:
       | 
       | - Assumed UTC instead of EST. Corrected it and it still continued
       | to bork
       | 
       | - Added random time deltas to my asked times (+2, -10 min).
       | 
       | - Couple notifications didn't go off at all
       | 
       | - The one that did go off didn't provide a push notification.
       | 
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       | 
       | On top of that, only usable without search mode. In search mode,
       | it was totally confused and gave me a Forbes article.
       | 
       | Seems half baked to me.
       | 
       | Doing scheduled research behind the scenes or sending a push
       | notification to my phone would be cool, but surprised they
       | thought this was OK for a public beta.
        
         | arthurcolle wrote:
         | DateTime stuff is generally super annoying to debug. Can't
         | fault them too badly. Adding a scheduler is a key enabling idea
         | for a ton of use cases
        
           | sensanaty wrote:
           | > Can't fault them too badly
           | 
           | The same company that touts their super hyper advanced AI
           | tool that can do everyone's (except the C-level's,
           | apparently) jobs to the world can't figure out how to make a
           | functional cron job happen? And we're giving them a pass,
           | despite the bajillions of dollars that M$ and VC is funneling
           | their way?
           | 
           | Quite interesting they wouldn't just throw the "proven to be
           | AGI cause it passes some IQ tests sometimes" tooling at it
           | and be done with it.
        
           | dmadisetti wrote:
           | Yeah, they're not exactly a scrappy startup- I'd be surprised
           | if they had 0 QA.
           | 
           | Makes me wonder if they internally have "press releases / Q"
           | as an internal metric to keep up the hype.
        
           | cbeach wrote:
           | Agreed on date/time being a frustrating area of software
           | development.
           | 
           | But wouldn't a company like OpenAI use a tick-based system in
           | this architecture?
           | 
           | If the logic is event driven and deterministic, it's easy to
           | test and debug, right?
        
       | phgn wrote:
       | What am I supposed to see at the link?
        
       | ldjkfkdsjnv wrote:
       | This is going to eat software, and is the beginning of agents.
       | The orchestrator of these tasks will come, and OpenAI will turn
       | into a general purpose compute system, the endgame of workflow
       | software. Soon there will be a database, and your prompts will be
       | able to directly read and write to an openai hosted postgres
       | instance. And your CRUD app will begin to disappear. Programming
       | will feel pointless
        
         | worldsayshi wrote:
         | Sure but do they have a moat here? Anyone that can connect to
         | an LLM could make that app.
        
         | rglover wrote:
         | Possibly, but that's going to require 100% consistent, accurate
         | outputs (tricky as that's not the nature of LLMs).
         | 
         | Otherwise, you'll have a lot of systems dependent on these
         | orchestrators creating hard-to-debug mistakes up and down the
         | pipeline. With software, you can reach a state where it does
         | what you tell it to without having to worry if some model
         | adjustment or API change is going to break the output.
         | 
         | If they solve that, then yes. Otherwise, what I personally
         | expect is a lot of businesses rushing into implementing
         | "agents" only to backpedal later when they start to have
         | negative material effects on bottom lines.
        
       | mulmboy wrote:
       | https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/14/24343528/openai-chatgpt-r...
        
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