[HN Gopher] Cosmos Keyboard: Scan your hand, build a keyboard
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       Cosmos Keyboard: Scan your hand, build a keyboard
        
       Author : cdata
       Score  : 128 points
       Date   : 2025-01-13 17:42 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | uticus wrote:
       | some info came across discord for https://cyboard.digital/ about
       | this last year, very similar concept.
        
       | tomtom1337 wrote:
       | Ive used this several times, I paid for pro. Really like it!
       | Check out the hand recognition, it's super cool (albeit, not
       | terribly useful).
       | 
       | There's a very active and helpful community on discord too.
        
         | karmajunkie wrote:
         | do you end up with a finished keyboard or is this giving you
         | DIY plans?
        
           | egypturnash wrote:
           | It looks like it gives you DIY plans but there is also an
           | option to get a finished keyboard - this leads to a page with
           | some error messages in it though.
        
       | nom wrote:
       | No, please, I don't have the time for this, why does it have to
       | be so cool :cry:
        
       | cassianoleal wrote:
       | Cosmos is awesome. Ryan is a lovely and incredibly helpful on his
       | Discord. The community built around it is quite chilled out and
       | helpful as well.
        
       | replwoacause wrote:
       | This looks awesome but I think I'm paralyzed by all of the
       | possibilities. My Kinesis Advantage 2 has served me well for
       | years. I wonder if anyone has switched from one to a custom
       | board?
        
         | maxyurk wrote:
         | checkout https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/
        
         | eawgewag wrote:
         | I've done the switch! My 2c:
         | 
         | If the Kinesis is working for you, I would not switch. It's an
         | extremely high quality board and most of these Dactyl's are all
         | attempts to replicate the Kinesis at a more accessible price
         | point and/or with higher amounts of customizability. The
         | tradeoff is that they tend to be extremely fragile, have really
         | poor build quality, and have zero to none customer support
         | attached.
         | 
         | However, the KA doesn't work for everybody. I find it too big
         | and the switches too heavy. So I opted for a custom approach,
         | which sadly only survived about 4 months.
        
       | ge96 wrote:
       | The UI and color palette for the site is cool. The 3D tech is
       | neat too, I'm not personally a fan of these keyboard designs
       | (fine with 65% single mech) but really great software.
        
         | pryelluw wrote:
         | what keyboard do you currently use?
        
           | ge96 wrote:
           | I am not that hardcore of a mech keyboard person where I
           | build my own/lube switches.
           | 
           | I primarily use a Durgod Hades 68, I have to have the
           | dedicated arrow keys on the bottom right. I have a bunch of
           | others similar design. My problem was instead of buying as
           | switch tester I started buying random keyboards with
           | different switches so I now have too many. I also used to use
           | the Apple magic keyboards those small ones with a cylinder
           | battery holder.
        
       | __MatrixMan__ wrote:
       | I love this... almost.
       | 
       | My daily driver is a planck (flat rectangle, no num row) which I
       | designed to lighten the load on my pinkies. I moved the left
       | alpha keys further left and the right alpha keys futher right, so
       | I have two columns in the center which I use for
       | Ctrl,Alt,<,>,[,],(, and ). These get different keycaps so I can
       | navigate it by texture. I love it, using other keyboards my
       | pinkies always start to hurt after a while, but with this thing I
       | can really crank.
       | 
       | I'd like to depart from the flat rectangle form factor, while
       | keeping all of the things I love about my planck, and using
       | advanced mode here I was able to get pretty darn close. What's
       | missing is the bottom left and right corner keys, which I
       | consider "palm-press" keys. If I disable the num row and enable
       | the inner keys, the outermost columns only have three keys. I'd
       | appreciate a checkbox that gave them four, with the fourth
       | awkwardly low for pinky use but accessible for a "palm" press
       | (not sure if the meaty part under the knuckle counts as the palm
       | but that's what I mean anyway).
       | 
       | With the right curvature there's probably also opportunity to do
       | the same thing under the index knuckle.
        
         | rianadon wrote:
         | If you select one of the keys in the keyboard preview on the
         | right, you can add and move keys around to wherever you like :)
         | That should allow you to put keys under your knuckle.
         | 
         | Speaking of palm presses, someone shared a "palmtyl" design
         | with several keys under the palm in the discord (here's a
         | video: https://youtu.be/D8ev08mnSmg). It's an interesting way
         | of squeezing in more keys without requiring finger travel.
        
           | __MatrixMan__ wrote:
           | very cool, thanks
        
       | lawn wrote:
       | I used this generator to build myself my own keyboard and the
       | tool was extremely helpful. I went through a bunch of prototypes
       | and I don't think it's possible to create a customized keyboard
       | for yourself in one attempt.
       | 
       | I made a fairly extensive build log from start to finish
       | including how I got the integrated trackball to work together
       | with QMK here:
       | 
       | https://www.jonashietala.se/blog/2024/11/26/building_my_ulti...
        
       | rianadon wrote:
       | Author here. It's a surprise seeing this posted while I'm in the
       | middle of traveling. Happy to answer any questions! If you're
       | curious, the tech stack is static assets bundled with
       | sveltekit/vite and hosted on gitlab pages + a minimal go backend.
        
         | AndrewHampton wrote:
         | I used this to build my current keyboard a few months ago. It
         | was my first hand-wired keyboard, and this made it much more
         | approachable. Thanks for creating it!
        
         | Pet_Ant wrote:
         | It could really use a way to control the spread of the button
         | around the track ball. Just to make them closer together. Also,
         | would be great to have an option of adding a USB hub on the
         | inner edge for plugging in a USB key or adding a USB plug on
         | the outside for a mouse.
        
         | utopcell wrote:
         | Great work @rianadon!
        
       | James_K wrote:
       | Just got a Cantor Remix keyboard myself. Might have checked this
       | out otherwise, but a big advantage of the flat designs is they
       | fit in my pocket.
        
       | Cieric wrote:
       | This makes me want to go back to making a custom keyboard again.
       | The feature to scan your hands is interesting, but I can't seem
       | to get it to work at all. I got it to measure the length of my
       | digits, but when it came to measuring how flexible they are I
       | could never get it to complete. On top of that the detection
       | seemed to freak out a lot and the right hand model was screwed
       | up. Overall this does seem really cool, but more something I'll
       | bookmark to try later.
        
       | MaxGripe wrote:
       | I've had so many keyboards that I can't even count them. I've
       | owned five mechanical ones alone. Out of the ergonomic ones, I've
       | only had one - a Microsoft and it was pretty nice. Almost all of
       | them have been replaced because they broke. Either the keys stop
       | working (most often) or the stabilizers start failing.
       | 
       | In my opinion, the best keyboards are the ones that are very easy
       | to clean :) Ideally, switches should be chosen based on your
       | hands since everyone has different preferences. I'm currently
       | using Keychron K5 SE ultra-slim with Low Profile Optical hot-
       | swappable "Banana" switches, and it's the most comfortable
       | keyboard I've ever had -- and it's not even that expensive (for a
       | mechanical keyboard). Before that, I had SteelSeries' top model,
       | and it broke after about a year.
       | 
       | Building custom keyboards is next-level, and I think I'll pass on
       | that. What matters most is that it's comfortable to type on and
       | easy to clean. A piece of advice for beginners: don't buy
       | keyboards from Logitech or Apple. They're overrated and not worth
       | their price.
        
         | MrLeap wrote:
         | I feel like I am your hardware destroying cousin. For me it's
         | mice, not keyboards.
         | 
         | I've had the same keyboard for like a decade, but I go through
         | mice every 3-6 months. I've tried logitech / corsair / no-name
         | / razor. 90% of the time I replace a mouse because of phantom
         | double clicks or the mouse3 button just ceasing to work.
         | 
         | More rarely, the mouse will reconnect cycle over and over, or
         | the scroll wheel will break.
         | 
         | I don't THINK I abuse them, but my body count indicates maybe
         | I'm too hard on them and don't know it.
         | 
         | Maybe we need hardware that'll give us data on how mean we are
         | to them so we can gain perspective. :p
        
           | garyfirestorm wrote:
           | ummmm what? I have had an MX Master Mouse for over 8 years
           | and as an automotive engineer i have dropped it numerous
           | times while testing vehicles, inside the vehicle, while
           | getting out of the vehicle, just walking from desk to the
           | cars in parking lots... and it still survived 8 years! what
           | are you doing to your mouse exactly?
        
             | MrLeap wrote:
             | I click a lot? I don't feel like I'm putting the hammer to
             | them. They just all die.
        
               | pedroma wrote:
               | I've never broken a mechanical keyboard, but I have gone
               | through a few mice. None of my MX mice (MX Master, MX
               | Anywhere) have failed, but only gaming mice. I have a
               | feeling gaming mice just aren't built to last, especially
               | in recent years as brands have chased lighter and lighter
               | mice, likely sacrificing durability.
        
               | gffrd wrote:
               | I've had many mice, and I've never had one fail. I've got
               | mice that are over 20 years old and still work.
               | 
               | So unless you are the hulk and not aware of it, I have to
               | wonder if something else in your environment is affecting
               | them.
               | 
               | Do you buy them all from the same retailer? Do you live
               | underwater? Or next to a high power transmission
               | station?!
        
             | nsxwolf wrote:
             | Do they make them the same as they did 8 years ago? It
             | seems that whenever I want to replace a product I really
             | enjoyed 10 years ago, the replacement is a cost-reduced
             | piece of junk.
        
           | m000 wrote:
           | Maybe it's time you switch to a trackball.
        
       | Pet_Ant wrote:
       | I've always wanted this and had daydreamed of building this
       | before!. If it supports QMK and ortholinear, I'll have to get
       | this. I've always dreamed of building a keyboard into the arm
       | rests of my chair.
        
         | Carrok wrote:
         | I've tried the arm rest thing. Not very comfortable
         | unfortunately. At least for me.
        
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