[HN Gopher] Russia's Hidden War Debt
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       Russia's Hidden War Debt
        
       Author : JumpCrisscross
       Score  : 28 points
       Date   : 2025-01-12 21:45 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | Developerx wrote:
       | Oh better look at usa national dept or how ukrainian oligarchs
       | laundering money
        
         | dragontamer wrote:
         | I don't think USA is dealing with 20%+ interest rates like
         | Russia is. But go on, what about the USA nation debt is related
         | to the issues brought up in this article?
        
           | Developerx wrote:
           | 20%? you can take mortage for 3 percent. There are a lot of
           | different programs. And even with that percent, when 85square
           | apartment costs around 100k$, it's not a problem for some one
           | to buy with cash or some credit. But, go on tell me more
           | about 20% lol
        
             | JumpCrisscross wrote:
             | > _tell me more about 20%_
             | 
             | They said they " _don't_ think USA is dealing with 20%+
             | interest rates like Russia is," emphasis mine.
        
             | wiseowise wrote:
             | > $100k in Russia in cash
             | 
             | > its not a problem
             | 
             | Look, mom, I'm trolling!
        
         | shmerl wrote:
         | Better for whom, Putler and his paid bots?
        
         | viraptor wrote:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
         | 
         | Just submit a story about it if you think it's an interesting
         | topic.
        
       | themgt wrote:
       | Always useful to check past predictions from the author, e.g.
       | 
       |  _So, what would happen to those 6 million barrels a day if the
       | West stopped buying? Russian officials have threatened to send it
       | "elsewhere," while the media have focused on stories of stepped-
       | up sales to China and India. But this threat of a redirection to
       | Asia is a paper tiger._ - Apr 26, 2022
       | 
       | https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/04/26/sanction-r...
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       |  _Once sanctions are fully in place, Russia's total crude and
       | product exports (seaborne + land) could fall by as much as 3.3 to
       | 3.9 million barrels a day from a baseline of 7.5 million barrels
       | a day_ - Oct 19, 2022
       | 
       | https://navigatingrussia.substack.com/p/putins-looming-tanke...
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       | Lots of convincing details and analysis about how oil would be
       | stranded in Russia or forced to sell to the west at a deep
       | discount due to the "price cap" strategy. So what are Russian oil
       | exports looking like 2 years later?
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       |  _Russia continues as a dominant oil exporter in 2023 despite
       | global sanctions, maintaining a yearly export volume of around
       | 7.5 million barrels per day (mb /d), as per analysis by the
       | International Energy Agency._
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       |  _With EU /UK/US markets turning away, Russia has pivoted towards
       | India, China, Turkiye, and countries in the Middle East,
       | retaining its position as the world's second largest oil exporter
       | behind the US in 2023._
       | 
       | https://qery.no/russian-oil-exports-pivots-towards-the-east/
       | 
       |  _According to the [IEA], Russian ... exports have remarkably
       | steady around 7.5 million barrels per day (although there has
       | been a big shift away from supplying the EU directly)_
       | 
       | https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/how-make-price-cap-russian-oi...
        
         | wiseowise wrote:
         | At what price are they exporting it right now, remind me?
        
         | viraptor wrote:
         | From your first link: "However, Russian oil export revenue saw
         | a $4.2 billion decline due to G7 price caps and a fall in
         | global oil prices."
        
           | JumpCrisscross wrote:
           | To be fair, China's oil demand tempered [1] and the IEA
           | projected massive coming surpluses [2] in that time.
           | 
           | [1] https://www.energypolicy.columbia.edu/chinas-slowing-oil-
           | dem...
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           | [2] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-demand-set-
           | peak-...
        
       | entropyneur wrote:
       | I was waiting for some sensible explanation of Russia's "economic
       | miracle" and this sounds at least somewhat satisfactory. Let's
       | hope the theory is true and the debt crisis comes soon enough.
        
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