[HN Gopher] Thanks to Nvidia, there's a new generation of PCs co...
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       Thanks to Nvidia, there's a new generation of PCs coming and
       they'll run Linux
        
       Author : CrankyBear
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2025-01-12 19:50 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | dagmx wrote:
       | This article is pure conjecture and doesn't have anything to back
       | up the title beyond "these brands also happen to use mediatek"
       | and making a tenuous link between their Chromebook products and
       | the Digit system.
        
       | Bancakes wrote:
       | In the meanwhile, people with nvidia laptops can enjoy a blinking
       | white cursor on a black display. Courtesy of nvidia Optimus and
       | their "wonderful" first party linux support for it.
        
         | spookie wrote:
         | It's quite easy to get a running Nvidia Optimus setup nowadays.
         | Just go through arch wiki if on X, and just use drivers >560
         | for Wayland.
         | 
         | Is there anything I'm not in the loop or?
        
           | Bancakes wrote:
           | It's great we recently got the feature for wayland. But for X
           | it's been a wild ride of bumblebee and using prime-run and
           | full offloading for many years.
           | 
           | The arch wiki is still not a first party solution. As it
           | stands, no normal user should have to go through that. The
           | best option I've found is to just stick with Pop!_OS - they
           | have a switcher set up and it actually works.
           | 
           | And once the user sets up Optimus, they can continue down the
           | arch wiki for setting up hardware video decode on their
           | browsers manually, and every other feature that nobody should
           | have to mind.
        
             | zxvkhkxvdvbdxz wrote:
             | X is long dead. It is only reasonable for NVIDIA to focus
             | on working wayland experience since that's where Linux
             | desktop is.
             | 
             | For hw-accel, just use nouveau and VA-API will work out of
             | the box. (Yes, nvidia is contributing to nouveau these
             | days).
        
               | Bancakes wrote:
               | X is anything but dead. XFCE and KDE have working x11
               | DEs. If anything, you get higher performance on it
               | relative wayland in some use cases.[0][1]
               | 
               | Nouveau last time I checked has practically no support
               | for modern nvidia chips (read: 5 years ago to now) in
               | CUDA, performance states, 2D, and 3D.[3]
               | 
               | [0] https://www.phoronix.com/review/wayland-nv-amd-2023
               | 
               | [1] https://discuss.kde.org/t/wayland-vs-x-benchmarking-
               | results-...
               | 
               | [3] https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/FeatureMatrix.html
        
       | yalogin wrote:
       | Why does any of that make sense? It's an enterprise play for
       | them. You see Mac minis used all over for their compact form
       | factor behind tvs. This is a similar play for enterprises but
       | development and IT deployment of AI chips. I don't even know if
       | it will pan out
        
       | lousken wrote:
       | they were 5 years behind AMD on drivers, maybe now they're 3, so
       | maybe in their next generation
        
       | hedora wrote:
       | I think they're saying that NVIDIA is already making high
       | performance arm processors, and announced a high-end desktop arm
       | that'll run linux by default.
       | 
       | Not sure though. It would let them compete with my Ryzen SoC
       | mini-pc, assuming they fix their drivers (and get the linux taint
       | bit to stay off).
        
       | n144q wrote:
       | > But what about a $1,000 Blackwell PC from Acer, Asus, or
       | Lenovo?
       | 
       | Do they already exist, are they announced, or are these products
       | in their roadmap?
       | 
       | No? Then what on earth are we talking about here?
       | 
       | The author really thinks people care about Linux desktop? No,
       | people want laptops that _works_. I don 't know what that means
       | exactly, but I highly doubt we are anywhere close to thinking
       | Linux desktop is usable for everyone.
        
       | berbec wrote:
       | echo "$(($(date +%Y)+1)) is the year of the Linux desktop."
        
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