[HN Gopher] Norms-Based Intellectual Property Systems: The Case ...
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       Norms-Based Intellectual Property Systems: The Case of French
       Chefs(2008)
        
       Author : kelseyfrog
       Score  : 10 points
       Date   : 2025-01-09 22:47 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | nl wrote:
       | The abstract sounds interesting. Is the paper available?
        
         | Aloha wrote:
         | Yes, I missed it the first time too - there is a big download
         | button on the left side of the webpage.
         | 
         | Linked for convenience-
         | https://pubsonline.informs.org/doi/epdf/10.1287/orsc.1070.03...
        
         | azepoi wrote:
         | Yes: About->view pdf
         | 
         | (On mobile)
        
       | nestorD wrote:
       | Intriguing! But, being familiar with a domain that work of a mix
       | of copyright and norm based intellectual property (magic). It is
       | a mess in that people who do not care will abuse the system with
       | little retribution, while people who care often do not dare do
       | thing because the rules are too fuzzy to know if something is
       | fine.
        
         | empath75 wrote:
         | Magic has insiders and outsiders that have access to and
         | distribute tricks, the insiders being, roughly, "people who
         | perform magic for a living", and outsiders being, roughly,
         | "youtubers and hobbyists".
         | 
         | Penn and Teller make a lot of noise about not being afraid of
         | the Magic Castle and revealing tricks, but the only tricks
         | they've really exposed are the really old tricks like the Cup
         | and Balls where knowing how it's done doesn't really spoil it
         | very much, and most magicians don't care about that kind of
         | thing very much, especially since there have been books
         | explaining how to do it for literally hundreds of years
         | including magic kits you can buy at any book store.
         | 
         | What _really_ annoys magicians are people publishing tutorials
         | for original tricks that are still being performed by the
         | person that developed them, and most of them think that if the
         | method is going to be published, it should be published by the
         | performer through normal "magic store" channels. Outsiders,
         | OTOH, don't care at all about any of that and frequently
         | publish tutorials and exposures for tricks on youtube, and
         | don't really suffer any negative consequences for it because
         | they're not working magicians and don't intend to be.
         | 
         | It's actually really similar to the way that EDM producers and
         | DJs work. They all are playing "other people's music", and a
         | lot of them make unauthorized remixes and bootlegs of other
         | people's work, but they also have a network of dj-to-dj music
         | distribution where producers give out exclusive demos of their
         | newest songs and remixes (some original and legit, some not) to
         | other djs that they're friendly with, and if you were to send
         | out copies of someone _else's_ illegal remix, you'd get black
         | listed and lose out on gigs and getting any songs from other
         | DJs in that network in the future.
        
       | Aloha wrote:
       | This is very very interesting.
       | 
       | It reminds me of how furries treat IP, art theft is a big no-no,
       | but sharing is encouraged and a community norm.
        
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