[HN Gopher] Scientists drill 2 miles down pull 1.2M-year-old ice...
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       Scientists drill 2 miles down pull 1.2M-year-old ice core from
       Antarctic
        
       Author : belter
       Score  : 30 points
       Date   : 2025-01-10 13:56 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | lupusreal wrote:
       | The age of the ice is very impressive, but the shear depth of the
       | ice still blows my mind.
        
         | defrost wrote:
         | The weight of that ice is another vast number to ponder.
         | 
         | Several million years past when the southern pole was ice free
         | that land mass was riding a _lot_ higher without kilometres of
         | ice above pushing it down.
        
           | brabel wrote:
           | Some parts of Sweden are still moving UP by 8 to 9 mm every
           | single year[1] due to the rebound after the ice sheets
           | retreated, just about 10k-15k years ago.
           | 
           | [1] https://highcoastkvarken.org/our-joint-world-
           | heritage/the-la...
           | 
           | > The speed is fast enough to see the changes in the
           | landscape in a few decades.
        
       | tiffanyh wrote:
       | > 1.2 million-year-old ice core from Antarctic
       | 
       | Dumb question ... does that mean that 1.2M years ago, Antarctica
       | wasn't frozen but a warm climate at South Pole?
       | 
       | EDIT:
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       | When I say "warm" climate, I mean "an above freezing climate"
       | (which might still be cold but warmer than 0C/32F)
        
         | ceejayoz wrote:
         | No. That means it was frozen at that time.
         | 
         | The big freeze was 10-14 million years back. Before that it was
         | tundra and small ice caps.
         | 
         | Go back 30-50M and you'll get to tropical rainforests.
        
           | brabel wrote:
           | So the ice just wasn't accumulating until 1.2 million years
           | ago despite that? Why not if the climate was already similar
           | to today's?
           | 
           | EDIT: notice that they "hit bedrock" at 1.2 million year old
           | ice... perhaps you missed that part.
        
             | ceejayoz wrote:
             | What exactly are you struggling with? Ice caps move. The
             | original ice from ten million years ago largely made its
             | way into the ocean as icebergs.
             | 
             | The oldest ice we can find is stuff stuck in depressions
             | somewhere that hasn't moved in some time. We may find
             | another older pocket in another space, just like this one
             | was older than the last record.
             | 
             | For similar reasons, the oldest paper we can find is not
             | the first paper ever. It sets a minimum age for paper, not
             | a maximum.
        
             | F7F7F7 wrote:
             | Can you explain to me how this sort of thinking works? I
             | couldn't ever imagine making this sort of assumption based
             | off an article and my admittedly very low understanding of
             | Antarctica.
        
         | dboreham wrote:
         | 1.2M isn't very long. It was in the same place and the climate
         | was similar to today's. There were human-like apes living at
         | the time in Africa. The Antarctic ice sheet is believed to be
         | more than 30M years old.
        
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