[HN Gopher] Show HN: Belshazzar's Clock, luminous paint night clock
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       Show HN: Belshazzar's Clock, luminous paint night clock
        
       Author : mkarliner
       Score  : 71 points
       Date   : 2025-01-08 11:14 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | Cerium wrote:
       | Sweet hack, thanks for sharing. I remember playing in the dark
       | with luminous paper as a kid - If I remember correctly, I would
       | take a hacked up disposable camera and put various objects in
       | front of the paper before triggering the flash.
       | 
       | I imagine that you could improve the consistency and readability
       | some by modeling the state of each pixel of paper. That way when
       | the drum comes around you can compensate the exposure per pixel
       | based on the current state to achieve better uniformity of
       | display. In this way you could do exposure compensation on each
       | row of output to make the display equally bright top to bottom.
       | This would be similar to how a "no-refresh" epaper display works.
        
         | mkarliner wrote:
         | Interesting, I'll have to think about that. Actually, with rare
         | earth paints, the big issue is persistence, which is rather too
         | long. In the current script, I only turn the drum 1/4 turn, so
         | it takes roughly 4 minutes to illuminate the same patch again.
         | Otherwise the lowest digit tends to be blurred because it is a
         | combination of the last two values.
        
           | thanatos519 wrote:
           | Have you tried 360nm LED? The higher orbitals drop faster or
           | so I've been told.
        
             | mkarliner wrote:
             | Another interesting suggestion to think about. Thanks.
        
           | avidiax wrote:
           | Maybe you could make a clock based on a cylinder of sealed
           | powder. You draw the time on it, and when it's time to
           | update, you rotate the cylinder enough to mix the exposed
           | powder and draw the next time.
           | 
           | Maybe the same thing could be done with beads and something
           | similar to the marble machines to replenish a screen of
           | beads, then dump it when the time is invalid.
        
         | xattt wrote:
         | > I would take a hacked up disposable camera
         | 
         | Memories unlocked of extracting the flash unit from disposable
         | cameras to flash on demand.
        
       | rob74 wrote:
       | Looks cool, but if the "writing on the wall" is only supposed to
       | be the current time, there are enough (much more mundane-looking
       | of course) alternatives, e.g. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Emlimny-
       | Digital-LED-Projection-Al...
        
         | Terretta wrote:
         | Indeed. And the red most use (a) doesn't blow your night
         | vision, (b) isn't visible through your eyelids. (I recommend
         | one where, if it also displays the time itself, shows the time
         | in red too, at least when the room's dark.)
         | 
         | Once you've had this on the ceiling for a while, it's annoying
         | to have to look for time on a nightstand or your wrist.
        
       | gigaflop wrote:
       | Not sure if you can get this where you are, but I've personally
       | used some of these glow powders, and they get _very_ bright:
       | https://unitednuclear.com/glowinthedark-items-c-101_45/
       | 
       | I've had Aqua and Green, and they look gorgeous.
        
         | mkarliner wrote:
         | Thanks, I'm in the UK, and US-UK shipping is horrendous, but I
         | may give them a try.
         | 
         | Right now I'm try to find a longer persistence photochromic for
         | the daylight version.
        
           | bigiain wrote:
           | Have you come across Stuart Semple/ Culture Hustle?
           | 
           | He makes a lot of interesting paints and pigments, and is UK
           | based.
           | 
           | https://culturehustle.com/collections/powder
           | 
           | I've bought a couple of versions of his blackest black paint,
           | and one of his whitest white, and they've all be
           | extraordinarily good.
           | 
           | I have some of his "LIT - THE WORLD'S GLOWIEST GLOW PIGMENT",
           | but I haven't used it yet. I have no doubt it'll be great as
           | well.
           | 
           | (I have a vague plan to paint a motorcycle in Black4.0 to see
           | if it's unreflective enough to evade the IR laser speed
           | detectors cops use here...)
        
             | djsavvy wrote:
             | That's a great idea. I'd love to see if it works.
             | 
             | I've wondered whether it would be possible to design a
             | motorcycle with a surface that's non-reflective to radar
             | because of it's shape or texture, like how stealth planes
             | work.
             | 
             | EDIT: I realized the super black paint is probably the
             | worst thing you could do for your own safety on a
             | motorcycle, but that's besides the point...
        
               | bigiain wrote:
               | I've been riding motorcycles for about 30 years now, I
               | started back when Neal Stephenson's Zodiac was still new,
               | and this part was still ringing in my head:
               | 
               | "I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla
               | route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a
               | car is out to get me. My nighttime attitude is, anyone
               | can run you down and get away with it. Why give some
               | drunk the chance to plaster me against a car? That's why
               | I don't even own a bike light, or one of those godawful
               | reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a
               | position where someone has to see you in order for you to
               | be safe--to see you, and to give a fuck--you've already
               | blown it... We had a nice ride through the darkness. On
               | those bikes we were weak and vulnerable, but invisible,
               | elusive, aware of everything within a two-block radius."
               | -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac
        
               | exmadscientist wrote:
               | My brief experience with Black 4.0 was not particularly
               | impressive. This video pretty much hits it dead on:
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKOC3Z9tDiI
               | 
               | I didn't compare with the other paints (I only found that
               | video after ordering the paint...) or with the difficulty
               | of painting (I got the intern to do it!) but in terms of
               | the final result, that's exactly the same result I got.
               | 
               | I also have some of their glow pigment and it's a lot
               | more impressive. This particular color doesn't glow very
               | brightly or for terribly long, but the hue... glow
               | pigment isn't supposed to be _this_ color!
        
       | froh wrote:
       | fun :-)
       | 
       | say, why don't you move mirrors but the whole laser?
        
       | jareklupinski wrote:
       | i want to mix this with https://github.com/LingDong-/shan-shui-
       | inf to make a real-life infinitely scrolling procedural animation
        
         | mkarliner wrote:
         | Very interesting challenge. May need a slightly different tech.
         | Stay tuned :-)
        
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