[HN Gopher] Facebook is removing stories about pornographic ads
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Facebook is removing stories about pornographic ads
Author : consumer451
Score : 167 points
Date : 2025-01-08 18:55 UTC (4 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.404media.co)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.404media.co)
| 23B1 wrote:
| https://archive.is/kdPJB
| kristopolous wrote:
| Also, consider paying 404media the $100 for a year. It's just 4
| people and I don't think they have many people actually paying.
| They're doing really good work. I paid.
|
| They also have a podcast - basically the top stories they
| publish in a conversational format:
| https://www.404media.co/the-404-media-podcast/
| warkdarrior wrote:
| $100/year is too much for an article on their complaints
| about Facebook.
| djyaz1200 wrote:
| How meta
| Tostino wrote:
| Good ole 'free speech' capitalism for ya.
|
| None of these people want free speech on their platforms. They
| will still censor anything they actually want censored.
| thinkingkong wrote:
| Now immediately flagged off the front page.
| freitasm wrote:
| That's why following HN from a RSS feed is invaluable. You get
| to see everything, even the things groupthink filters out.
| kergonath wrote:
| There's quite a lot of trash flagged for very good reasons,
| though. I cannot keep up with the full feed.
| sundaeofshock wrote:
| I can usually power through the RSS feed pretty quickly. My
| reader shows only titles, so I swipe on a lot of stuff that
| doesn't seem relevant. I can then take my time with the
| good stuff.
| freedomben wrote:
| Indeed. Some of the most interesting stories on HN never make
| it past the initial filter. I've seen great posts slip by in
| obscurity only to get hundreds of votes and hit the front
| page weeks or months later. There's a lot indeterminism in
| what makes it to the front page(s) and what doesn't.
| PeterHolzwarth wrote:
| Keep in mind this wonderful alternate HN front-send site -
| it's pretty much taken over vs hitting HN's main page:
| https://hckrnews.com/
|
| This site displays the posted links in chronological order,
| front, which means stuff that suddenly got booted off the
| front page still shows up.
| anotherhue wrote:
| https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-ge...
| dang wrote:
| Whose salary in this case?
| anotherhue wrote:
| I was cheekily implying that the well paid Facebook
| developers flagged this article as it forces them to
| confront the issue that their employer is generally a bad
| actor, and their employment contributes to that.
|
| Hardly a new take but I think this being flagged so quickly
| is a concerning problem.
| consumer451 wrote:
| Sometimes things I post get flagged by users and I get it, fair
| enough. This time I can only think of malicious reasons.
|
| The only people who I can imagine flagging this post are Meta
| PR, or users who are bringing their politics into a non-
| political post. If anyone has any other reasonable
| explanations, I would love to hear them.
|
| Looks like the title was edited, original title: Facebook Is
| Censoring 404 Media Stories About Facebook's Censorship
| dang wrote:
| I didn't see any such pattern in the data. It was flagged by
| quite a few users, none of whom showed any obvious pattern
| like affiliation with a company or a political slant.
|
| We can only guess why users flag things. In this case, I
| don't have a good guess, other than that the article title is
| baity, so I replaced it with more neutral language from the
| subtitle, and (partly) rolled back the flags.
|
| The flaggers may be correct, in any case, because this thread
| is noticeably terrible.
| consumer451 wrote:
| Thanks for looking into it.
|
| And yeah, I thought that this topic would have garnered a
| better discussion.
| spencerflem wrote:
| I'm surprised you'd think that - Facebook moderation
| changes and the same tired back and forth about 'free
| speech' have been some of the worst threads for me.
| mixmax wrote:
| my guess would be that it's because you have to sign up to
| read the article.
| consumer451 wrote:
| That's actually a fair point. The good thing is that
| archive.is works on their site now.
| jorts wrote:
| It's on the front page for me.
| cynicalsecurity wrote:
| I do agree that Facebook are assholes, but then I'm not sure I
| want to support journalists who are bashing sex, pornography and
| prostitution. There is nothing wrong with those things. We are
| not living in the Medieval times any more, maybe it's finally
| time to stop being puritans and stop believing that sex is
| somehow fundamentally sinful or wrong. Those beliefs don't make
| any sense and they look absolutely ridiculous.
|
| I would totally support journalism targetted at exposing
| hypocrisy and authoritarian practices of big tech.
|
| It's finally time to liberate society and to stop demonise sex
| and sex-related topics. Healthy views on sex would make the
| society a better place, and sex ads on Facebook would stop
| containing only scam.
| theWreckluse wrote:
| I'm not sure if your comment is targeted towards the article.
| In any case, the article itself specifically says that it's not
| against the sex, but against Meta's hypocrisy most likely
| driven by ad revenue.
| daseiner1 wrote:
| Commoditization of sex is not equivalent to its liberation, and
| in fact sex has been cheapened and corrupted, resulting in a
| more poisonous vice than it's ever been.
|
| Pornography is about as good for society as alcohol.
| beepbopboopp wrote:
| That sure reads like a personal opinion and not a fact. I
| think the passion of your response is the problem pointed out
| in the article as well as the general problem of freedom of
| speech. Everyone thinks they know where the "obvious" line
| is.
| ajsnigrutin wrote:
| I have instagram to watch meals my friends eat and places they
| go, i don't need porn there.
|
| If I want porn, i visit porhub.
|
| You don't have to be a puritan to have those things separated,
| especially if scrolling in public.
| prophesi wrote:
| Social media sites might be the easier option for some
| people!
|
| Map of porn restrictions in the US:
| https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/sx8Ji/2/
| maronato wrote:
| > I would totally support journalism targetted at exposing
| hypocrisy and authoritarian practices of big tech.
|
| I'm not sure if you are referring to the original article, but
| that's exactly what it's about.
| amyames wrote:
| I'm on social media to talk to my grandkids and former co
| workers.
|
| I don't want to see your hoo-ha on Meta while I'm eating my
| pancakes.
| Der_Einzige wrote:
| Okay boomer
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