[HN Gopher] A video tour of the Standard Model (2021)
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A video tour of the Standard Model (2021)
Author : goodway
Score : 105 points
Date : 2025-01-05 21:43 UTC (3 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.quantamagazine.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.quantamagazine.org)
| jiggawatts wrote:
| I'm so fed up with "icons and cartoons" particle physics. It's a
| waste of everyone's time.
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| It's like trying to teach someone AI/ML and only ever showing
| them vendor logos as illustrations and never the code or even
| pictorial representations of the models.
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| It's absurd, yet 99% of such presentations for physics look like
| this -- _unnecessarily_ -- because it is possible to show a
| _rendering_ of fields, their various properties changing over
| time and space, etc...
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| You can't learn anything from a thousand such videos that already
| exist, so what's the point of a thousand and one? It adds
| nothing.
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| PS: To gauge if the content is meaningful or valueless, just ask
| yourself if _anything would change_ about its educational value
| if you arbitrarily but consistently replaced the icons and /or
| their labels. If you're still exactly as mystified as before,
| then their information content was zero. "The three quarks, rock,
| paper, and scissors have a three-way symmetry, blah blah blah".
| Congratulations, you now know the quantum theory of roshambo!
| slt2021 wrote:
| its easy to critique, but have you produced a better
| educational content ?
| throwawayk7h wrote:
| What educational materials would you recommend for someone
| dabbling?
| jiggawatts wrote:
| Sure, here's an example that isn't just "scribbles":
| https://youtu.be/Sj_GSBaUE1o?si=TfqBYfpCYcy-OsL4
| agnivade wrote:
| As clearly stated in the video, you need to have
| prerequisite knowledge of quantum physics and special
| relativity. The quanta video can be understood by someone
| out of high school. Different audiences. Different goals.
| Just because something is all charts and animations,
| doesn't mean that it's bad.
| gitaarik wrote:
| Well maybe meant for a different audience? You don't have to
| watch it if it doesn't appeal to you.
| thekevan wrote:
| When I see "explanation of the Standard Model", my mind
| immediately goes to my favorite YT video, which is Dr Tong's talk
| at the Royal Institution. I started watching this video and it
| took me a second to recognize the voice, it's him as well!
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| If you want a long version:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNVQfWC_evg
| lcuff wrote:
| I confess I was disappointed in the video. As someone who decades
| ago read Stephen Hawking's book A Brief History of Time, it
| doesn't substantially add to my (lame!) understanding of the
| Standard Model. It names the 17 entities in the model, classifies
| them (fermions vs bosons), makes the distinction between matter
| particles and force particles, chats about each of the four
| forces, and drops in a number of other factoids. All well and
| good, and if you had no previous exposure to the standard model,
| you'd learn a lot. But the contrast to videos in other realms I
| explore (3Blue1Brown in mathematics, Guitar instructional videos
| by folks who include tab + video of actual fingers + sound, and
| woodworking videos where tricky constructions are shown from many
| angles) casts this Standard Model video in a poor light. The
| visuals just recapitulate the words that are being spoken. Sigh.
| Maybe there's nothing else to show, but, as I led with, I ended
| up disappointed....
| agnivade wrote:
| > All well and good, and if you had no previous exposure to the
| standard model, you'd learn a lot.
|
| That is exactly what this video is about. If you want something
| to be more in-depth, this video is not going to help you. But
| that's okay.
| leoc wrote:
| "Four hundred years ago, Galileo started piecing together the
| basic principles ..." oh no https://aeon.co/ideas/galileo-s-
| reputation-is-more-hyperbole...
| jonlong wrote:
| Indeed -- for a more detailed, incisive, and entertaining take,
| check out Season 1 of the "Opinionated History of Mathematics"
| podcast by Viktor Blasjo
| https://intellectualmathematics.com/blog/the-case-against-ga...
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