[HN Gopher] Physicists Magnetize a Material with Light
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       Physicists Magnetize a Material with Light
        
       Author : thunderbong
       Score  : 86 points
       Date   : 2025-01-07 17:54 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | physicsguy wrote:
       | > scientists believe antiferromagnetic materials could be a more
       | robust alternative to existing magnetic-based storage
       | technologies
       | 
       | Scientists working on interesting anti-ferromagnetic materials
       | need a justification for doing so under the crazy grant system we
       | operate, more like.
       | 
       | The downside of antiferromagnetic data storage, or skyrmion
       | storage, or any of the other various ideas recently, is that
       | reading the data is very difficult even if it is present, to the
       | point of making a real world device pretty much practically
       | impossible. I know, I also worked on this sort of thing before
       | leaving academia!
        
         | reillys wrote:
         | Knowledge in itself is good. We don't need everything to have a
         | direct commercial application. In fact most discoveries by
         | their nature do not have directly applicable commercial
         | applications.
        
           | nick__m wrote:
           | I agree and I am sure physicguy also agree but, alas, those
           | who manage the grants system frequently don't.
        
             | lukan wrote:
             | Because those who pay for the taxes frequently don't. So
             | some justification needs to happen to spend other peoples
             | money. A better way would be nice, though.
        
               | westmeal wrote:
               | Divert a percentage of military spending to a pool of
               | money for scientists to use.
        
               | lukan wrote:
               | What do the taxpayers say?
               | 
               | (Me I say yes! But I learned, I usually do not represent
               | a majority)
        
           | thecoppinger wrote:
           | Here's an excellent lecture that drives this point home:
           | 
           | "Physics in the Interest of Society Lecture 2019: John
           | Parmentola"
           | 
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx-55BhuFks
        
       | qoez wrote:
       | Maybe the outlandish future star trek etc promised will come into
       | fruition after all
        
       | anthk wrote:
       | Current Physics look like a Zorkian/Discworldian tale.
        
         | Terr_ wrote:
         | At least for Discworld, I'd argue the causation was the other
         | way around: The books parodied real things, often injecting a
         | fantastic aspect with the subtext of "All you people in the
         | real world should be a lot more amazed at what's going on
         | here."
         | 
         | For example, "hyphenated silicon" (semiconductor doping)
         | involved in how rock trolls think, and the catch-all
         | explanation of "because quantum."
        
           | anthk wrote:
           | Zork adventures too. They parodied learning system
           | commands/programming with in-game spells.
        
       | okwhateverdude wrote:
       | > the team worked with FePS3 -- a material that transitions to an
       | antiferromagnetic phase at a critical temperature of around 118
       | kelvins (-247 degrees Fahrenheit). > [...] > They placed the
       | sample in a vacuum chamber and cooled it down to temperatures at
       | and below 118 K.
       | 
       | I feel like this massive caveat was buried half way through the
       | article. This is why I dislike university press. I mean, the
       | wizardry is impressive, but it isn't gonna revolutionize anything
       | anytime soon if it requires a vacuum and liquid Krypton-ish
       | temperatures.
        
         | hanniabu wrote:
         | Could be useful in space where those are the default conditions
        
           | chongli wrote:
           | Space is a fantastic insulator. Space suits for astronauts
           | have to be cooled, not heated.
        
         | Tade0 wrote:
         | It's not that bad - 118K is slightly above the boiling point of
         | LNG(~112K), so achievable at scale.
        
         | mjfl wrote:
         | It's basic research
        
         | pbhjpbhj wrote:
         | >but it isn't gonna revolutionize anything anytime soon
         | 
         | Reminds me of CCD. Back in the day CCD only worked effectively
         | at liquid nitrogen temperatures; a couple of decades of
         | development and you could have one in a pocket camera.
         | 
         | Maybe that's what you meant.
        
         | mensetmanusman wrote:
         | So it works at room temperature in low earth orbit.
        
           | floxy wrote:
           | Because of solar radiation, you have to take special measures
           | with heat shields, etc, to achieve low temperatures in low
           | earth orbit.
           | 
           | https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/Numbers/Math/Mathematical_.
           | ..
        
         | kolanos wrote:
         | Could it have a practical use in space? Which is both already a
         | vacuum and close to absolute zero temperature wise?
        
       | skywal_l wrote:
       | Tractor beam!
        
         | busyant wrote:
         | Given your comment, you may like this:
         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_tweezers
        
       | neuroelectron wrote:
       | Terahertz radiation falls in between infrared radiation and
       | microwave radiation in the electromagnetic spectrum, and it
       | shares some properties with each of these. I find it weird they
       | used this term throughout the article.
        
       | kleiba wrote:
       | Gotta love the picture of the three, because it is not staged.
        
       | brcmthrowaway wrote:
       | Isnt all light terahertz light?
        
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