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       The funniest thing I ever did - a.k.a. "How To Make $100K From A
       Dick Joke."
        
       Author : imglorp
       Score  : 204 points
       Date   : 2025-01-05 09:03 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
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       | defrost wrote:
       | As featured in the _The Ballad of the Malheur Patriots (Song of
       | the Oregon Wildlife Refuge Standoff)_ @3:25
       | 
       | The perfect treat to storm a building surrounded by ducks . . .
        
         | bdndndndbve wrote:
         | Bundy apologists in the wild? Insane.
        
       | myflash13 wrote:
       | Sometimes I think about the years of hard work that I put into
       | building a SaaS business and wondered whether I should've just
       | done something silly like this instead.
        
         | readyplayernull wrote:
         | About 10 years ago it was possible to make a living from silly
         | Android apps. I made several of farts, meme sounds, and even
         | politicians that were funny to laugh at. One of my fondest
         | memories as dev is making apps for little kids and getting back
         | long strings of hearts, kisses and smiles in the reviews.
        
         | vachina wrote:
         | There's only so many low hanging fruits to exploit (by a LUCKY
         | few). Keep working on your business.
        
         | phyzix5761 wrote:
         | OPs story is like winning the lottery. The rest of us have to
         | get up and work 80 hour weeks building our business. The latter
         | is more fulfilling and longer lived in my opinion.
        
           | more_corn wrote:
           | But there's an important lesson here. The structure is the
           | same as a successful serious business. Build something people
           | actually want to buy, build it so you can fulfill it cheaper
           | than cost. Get a little ahead of yourself (but not a lot)
        
         | bashmelek wrote:
         | It is still inspiring for someone like me who wouldn't even
         | know where to start for something like this---that is can be
         | done by an individual nobody.The author knew a few important
         | things, but more, did their research, asked questions, and
         | pushed forward. I myself would love to move beyond web apps to
         | a physical product.
        
       | redeux wrote:
       | A guy I worked with was fired for sending this to a woman we
       | worked with that he had a grudge against for some reason or
       | another. Apparently he sent it from his work computer, which
       | wasn't the brightest idea. He sat in the next cube over from me
       | and I wasn't surprised in the slightest when I heard about it.
        
         | wiseowise wrote:
         | > sending this to a woman we worked with that he had a grudge
         | against for some reason or another
         | 
         | Sometimes I wonder what the hell is going on in people's head.
        
           | anal_reactor wrote:
           | A happy person and an upset person meet. Their emotional
           | statuses are wildly different, therefore drama ensues.
        
           | walrus01 wrote:
           | The profane joke in the bag of dicks made me think _which_
           | head he was thinking with.
        
       | dakiol wrote:
       | Perhaps I missed it, but at what point the author sets an LLC or
       | something similar? For me, that's the main blocker: in Europe it
       | costs money to start a business, some paperwork and taxes is
       | involved, even if you don't make a single sale. Also, for selling
       | online you kinda have to show in your website your "business id"
       | (or tax id or similar)... otherwise how do people know you are a
       | legit business? For example, I'm not giving my credit card
       | details to any random website to buy silly stuff unless they are
       | properly identified
        
         | tiffanyh wrote:
         | Not everyone shares your rigor to not buying from strangers.
         | 
         | Pieter Levels is a one-person show that has started multiple
         | businesses with just a single page & a Stripe Checkout earning
         | millions per year and I don't believe he's incorporated.
         | 
         | https://x.com/levelsio
        
           | scrollaway wrote:
           | A stripe account requires a legal entity of some sort behind
           | it.
           | 
           | This can be a "physical person" (eg a freelance activity),
           | depending on the country, but that still requires
           | registration -- and if it's millions per year, it's usually a
           | terrible idea to do it as a freelancer.
           | 
           | The money has to go somewhere. That somewhere needs to be
           | banked. That banked entity needs to be incorporated, or
           | treatable as a corporation.
        
         | mauvehaus wrote:
         | > For example, I'm not giving my credit card details to any
         | random website to buy silly stuff unless they are properly
         | identified
         | 
         | You might be putting more thought into this than the average
         | person looking to anonymously send someone a bag of penis
         | candy.
         | 
         | More seriously though, setting up an LLC cost me well under
         | $1000 each in two different states. No, I don't have some
         | elaborate tax dodge going; I moved.
        
         | loloquwowndueo wrote:
         | It's not a random website, it's backed by Shopify!
        
         | purple_turtle wrote:
         | > in Europe it costs money to start a business, some paperwork
         | and taxes is involved, even if you don't make a single sale
         | 
         | not everywhere - in Poland it is fine to run a tiny-scale
         | business without registration
         | 
         | https://www.biznes.gov.pl/pl/portal/00115 - among requirements,
         | scale must be less than 75% of a minimum wage. Enough to test
         | it.
         | 
         | > otherwise how do people know you are a legit business? For
         | example, I'm not giving my credit card details to any random
         | website to buy silly stuff unless they are properly identified
         | 
         | I do not care so much, as long of amounts are tiny - in case of
         | fraud it is bank's problem
        
           | LtdJorge wrote:
           | Wth? That's a great system you guys have.
        
             | j_4 wrote:
             | On paper, yeah. Sadly the threshold is very low, and you
             | get hit with a brutal regressive tax immediately after you
             | pass it (obligatory lump-sum social security tax).
        
         | walrus01 wrote:
         | In many US states it can cost at little as $200 to $300 to form
         | an LLC. The person says they used an integrated, hosted
         | shopping cart/checkout and payment system. This means they
         | didn't have to go through any of the hassle of doing something
         | like even setting up a "business" bank account, getting credit
         | card processing services and integrating the card payment
         | portal system into their own self-hosted shopping cart checkout
         | workflow. Shopify is used by a bunch of very non technical arts
         | and crafts people.
        
         | OJFord wrote:
         | Certainly doesn't in the UK, are you sure that's true where you
         | are? Here incorporating as an ltd (limited liability) costs I
         | think PS25, but you can start a business as a sole trader
         | without any kind of fee or registration (just a de facto status
         | requiring declaring the income on your personal tax return).
        
           | johneth wrote:
           | > Here incorporating as an ltd (limited liability) costs I
           | think PS25
           | 
           | They've increased it to (a still reasonable) PS50, I assume
           | to help fund the new legal obligations that Companies House
           | has been given.
        
         | stef25 wrote:
         | Not sure if it's still the case now but you could perfectly
         | open a Stripe account in the EU without the need for any
         | business documents.
        
           | throw5959 wrote:
           | That doesn't make it legal to operate. In every EU country
           | you need to register to legally conduct business activity. It
           | used to be an expensive and long hassle but nowadays it's
           | simple and quick, usually online and cheap.
        
         | chmod775 wrote:
         | I had to fill in like 5 fields (who, what, bank account) in a
         | 2-page form to start a basic business in Germany of all places
         | - and was legally allowed to start operating the moment I
         | submitted that. It cost nothing and I received a tax ID a short
         | time later. Wasn't an LLC, but you don't need that for every
         | little temporary thing you set up.
         | 
         | Setting up an LLC is not a big deal either, even if the process
         | could be quicker. People who think that too complicated aren't
         | competent to run a lasting business anyways. If _that_ is hard,
         | how are you not gonna fuck up accounting and your other legal
         | obligations?
        
         | snowwrestler wrote:
         | You don't have to set up a corporate form to do business like
         | this in the U.S. You can just start selling things and as long
         | as you properly report your taxable income, you're fine.
        
         | forty wrote:
         | In France, for very small business with only you in it (and
         | revenue cap), you can create a micro entreprise (aka micro
         | entrepreneur / auto entrepreneur) and it's free.
        
       | jcpham2 wrote:
       | I feel like the origin of this joke is a Louis CK stand up
       | routine IIRC but I'm unable to locate the source.
        
         | acer4666 wrote:
         | The routine is here https://youtu.be/jgcGEIfE9kE but I don't
         | think that's the origin of the phrase and doesn't mention
         | mailing candy ones to people
        
           | TexanFeller wrote:
           | I'm pretty sure I head that phrase sometime in the 90s, maybe
           | early 2000s. It's been around a while.
        
       | hehbot wrote:
       | Isn't this the premise of Silicon Valley (the show)?
        
       | hasbot wrote:
       | Glitter, poop, and now a bag of dicks can be easily sent
       | anonymously. What other similar services exist? Asking for a
       | friend.
       | 
       | Found this: https://prankpackage.com/collections/all
        
         | walrus01 wrote:
         | You can mail a message on a potato
         | 
         | https://potatoparcel.com/
        
       | oaththrowaway wrote:
       | I sold a laptop on eBay once long, long ago. Someone did the "Buy
       | it now" option but never paid. I'm trying to remember the exact
       | situation (probably more than 10 years ago), but I had exchanged
       | messages with him several times and he always had an excuse to
       | not pay.
       | 
       | Then I noticed he was selling the exact same model of laptop so
       | it was easy for me to realize that he had just "bought" my laptop
       | to remove the listing so it wouldn't compete against his. I
       | messaged ebay support to accuse him but they didn't do anything
       | about it.
       | 
       | Since he had made the order, eBay did show me his shipping
       | information so I ordered a "glitter bomb" which was basically
       | glitter in a tube with a spring. I got a very nasty accusatory
       | email from him, but it was very vague. He wouldn't specify what
       | he received, but that he was smart enough to not open it. That's
       | how I knew he got the full effect.
       | 
       | I just replied something to the effect of "You never paid me. Why
       | would I send something to you?"
        
         | cozzyd wrote:
         | I wonder if he was trying to resell your laptop and wasn't
         | going to pay until he got an order for your laptop
        
           | seattle_spring wrote:
           | That's what I was thinking too. There are whole subreddits
           | setup to work this kind of hustle. These people see nothing
           | wrong with what they do, even going so far as to claim that
           | they're doing a service to the world. In my eyes, they're
           | bottom-feeding scum no better than scalpers, car salespeople,
           | or MLM huns.
        
             | lalalali wrote:
             | ...or financial assets arbitrage! (Not /s)
        
         | anonu wrote:
         | I cant believe ebay hasnt been disrupted yet...
        
           | lotsofpulp wrote:
           | eBay is interesting. It has consistently high profit margins,
           | but no upward movement in revenue or profit, which peaked
           | over a decade ago, and its returns heavily lag SP500.
           | 
           | I'm guessing investors don't see much opportunity for growth
           | in the online auction business to make it worth dumping a
           | bunch of money just to take market share from eBay.
        
             | steveBK123 wrote:
             | eBay I think had their growth capped once you had Etsy,
             | Amazon FBA, and other options on the field.
             | 
             | Your average normie has no interest in the hassle of
             | selling their used stuff (which has, if anything, got
             | harder in my 25ish years using eBay), nor of buying random
             | used staff from anonymous individual sellers.
             | 
             | Etsy covers the arts & crafts coded goods (though much is
             | now China dropship).
             | 
             | Amazon allows the big merchants to sell to normies who just
             | want to click "buy" without thinking about seller rating
             | risk, when something will arrive, etc. Basically most
             | people have no idea they are buying from not-Amazon,
             | because it says amazon.com and that's good enough. eBay
             | never had the smarts to create that user experience.
        
               | woleium wrote:
               | Amazon fulfillment, That's the killer. Why bother with
               | another marketplace when vertically integrated Amazon
               | does it all
        
             | alexey-salmin wrote:
             | > online auction business
             | 
             | Do they even do it nowadays? I was under impression it
             | turned into an ordinary marketplace, probably with a bit
             | more focus towards small/private sellers.
        
               | hnlmorg wrote:
               | Yeah of course they do. And it's still used by people
               | looking to get deals.
        
             | toast0 wrote:
             | From my perspective, eBay has a solid niche of older items,
             | and they tried to break into the buy new items market too,
             | but the hassles of selling mean for the most part only
             | scalpers sell new items on eBay. Although there's some
             | niches where it's not unusual: new auto parts seem common,
             | I guess it's easier for a dealer parts counter to run an
             | eBay store than otherwise.
        
           | kgilpin wrote:
           | In my kids' generation (college aged) they all use Facebook
           | Marketplace.
        
             | rcpt wrote:
             | Local classifieds are great if you live in a dense area.
             | But I've tried using them when visiting rural family and
             | there's absolutely nothing for sale.
        
             | segmondy wrote:
             | ebay is still useful for obscure stuff. if you want to buy
             | used servers, GPU, electronics, car parts, etc. I don't
             | think ebay and FB MP really overlapped, MP ate craigslist.
             | The closest thing to eating ebay is Aliexpress.
        
             | snowwrestler wrote:
             | It's astounding how bad FB Marketplace search is, though.
             | For very popular things, it's fine. For browsing and "huh,
             | that's interesting," it's fine.
             | 
             | But if I am looking for something specific, it is an
             | incredible failure. It's so bad I suspect they
             | intentionally don't want it to work well. That is, I think
             | they only want to optimize for low-effort social buying,
             | not picky people who know exactly what they want.
             | 
             | For this reason I have bought way more stuff off eBay than
             | FB Marketplace recently.
        
               | bpye wrote:
               | It seems to just ignore filters like "date listed"
               | sometimes too. And people will list items at nominal
               | prices and give the actual price in the description.
               | Generally a poor experience.
        
           | gosub100 wrote:
           | They cleaned up their act substantially in the past 3-4
           | years. There are still scammers, of course, but they seem to
           | be taking action that favors buyers as well. I just don't see
           | how they can protect everyone from all the various scams. If
           | they accept all the risk, it will be exploited by scammers.
        
             | steveBK123 wrote:
             | It was always fairly pro-buyer, but it's moved so much more
             | in that direction it's somewhat hazardous to use as a
             | seller.
             | 
             | For a lot of stuff, as a seller, I'll just trade-in or use
             | random hobbyist forum buy&sell sections which ad-hoc
             | reputation systems.
        
               | gosub100 wrote:
               | FWIW I don't hear of nearly any of the horror stories I
               | used to. From my recollection, 2011 was about the peak of
               | it, where buyers were claiming to never get their stuff,
               | getting liberal refunds at the expense of the sellers.
               | Sellers were getting their accounts locked by Paypal,
               | sometimes with tens-of-thousands of dollars at stake,
               | only to get it back 6 months later if they begged and
               | screamed.
               | 
               | I opened a seller account in about 2020 to unload some
               | server gear and almost got scammed, but I googled the
               | buyers name and saw he was accused of fraud by several
               | other people. I re-routed the package and although I
               | didn't get reimbursed for that fee, ebay made me right
               | and paypal (I think) gave me a small credit. They even
               | had a phone call with me which seemed like they actually
               | investigated it (I dont remember many details, it was 1
               | transaction 5 years ago).
               | 
               | There's just no way that any online auction can control
               | fraud. I was on ebay yesterday as a buyer, looking for a
               | tape backup drive. The seller clearly had been burned and
               | (bitterly) warned that the sale was final, because
               | previously he had sold a working drive which was parted
               | out, replaced with broken parts (heads) and returned as
               | defective. there's _no way_ a third party can protect
               | against it because either way the fraudster wins. 1) sell
               | a bad drive, claim it was good, but accuse the buyer of
               | fraud. Or 2) buy a good drive, swap it out with bad parts
               | and return it. how could anyone (like ebay) solve this
               | problem?
        
           | nyjah wrote:
           | eBay has had to reinvent itself. For me, I don't trust eBay
           | for legit merchandise, I sorta assume it's knockoffs now,
           | probably wrong. I've never used them but I was under the
           | assumption that offer up and what not are popping off as eBay
           | disrupters.
        
           | stemlord wrote:
           | Honestly ebay is currently a notch better than amazon, IME
        
         | ninkendo wrote:
         | I had the exact experience selling an iMac on eBay about 10
         | years ago. Buyer clicked buy it now, my listing was removed,
         | they never paid. They deleted their account shortly after (it
         | was some .ru email address.) eBay had nothing to say other than
         | "try again after X weeks". Why, so it can just happen again?
         | They admitted they have zero protection against it.
         | 
         | I deleted my account and sold it on Amazon instead. How anyone
         | puts up with eBay I have no idea.
        
           | csh0 wrote:
           | FWIW, eBay no longer works like this. When you put up a
           | listing there's now an option, enabled by default, to require
           | payment at checkout.
           | 
           | This situation may still occur if you are taking offers on an
           | item. In that case the buyer has to pay within 48 hours of
           | the offer being accepted or the listing will become eligible
           | for re-posting.
        
       | probably_wrong wrote:
       | I don't have a great opinion of marketing in general and
       | therefore I'm often unconvinced with arguments like "marketing is
       | about fulfilling a customer's needs" or "adding efficiency to the
       | market".
       | 
       | Therefore I feel vindicated when a moderately-upvoted post says
       | the quiet part out loud, namely, "Yeah, we made a fake post and
       | just lied to everyone on the internet. I'm not sorry, because not
       | only was it popular - it became the top post of the day."
       | 
       | Remember, kids: lying is only wrong when it's unprofitable.
        
         | oaththrowaway wrote:
         | Just makes me more cynical about everything I see posted.
         | Marketers ruin everything eventually
        
           | lotsofpulp wrote:
           | You can extend that to stories people tell and images they
           | portray in real life.
        
             | MrMcCall wrote:
             | Dishonesty is rampant in our world.
             | 
             | That's why Merlin says honesty is the most important
             | virtue.
        
             | aziaziazi wrote:
             | I don't see ruined value in fables telling though, usually
             | the meaning and mind perspectives provides a benefit to the
             | reader. Same with portray and most images shown in museum.
        
               | lotsofpulp wrote:
               | I am not talking about fables, I am referring to lying in
               | order to sell one's self, perhaps for business, or love,
               | or networking, or even just for a laugh. Maybe even
               | because people are lying to themselves.
        
               | aziaziazi wrote:
               | Oh ok i didn't read your comment that way. That makes
               | sense. NLP is a form of self marketing I guess. "Sell"
               | yourself ideas you want to buy on!
        
           | IAmGraydon wrote:
           | >Marketers ruin everything eventually
           | 
           | You need to follow that chain of thought a little further.
           | The unfortunate weak spot in a capitalist economy is that
           | it's basically a Darwinistic system where the fittest
           | survive, and "fit" means willing to do anything to make a
           | dollar. Morals therefore become a weakness, and those who are
           | guided by morals will be stomped out by those who don't
           | really care. The guardrails are made of laws, not morals, and
           | those who make the laws are often benefiting from the status
           | quo. Like it or not, this is the jungle we find ourselves in.
        
             | paulryanrogers wrote:
             | IMO there is a tension between tolerating gray areas and
             | stomping out the faintest shadow with prejudice. In the
             | long term societies with no trust or accountability will
             | fall to those with higher trust and cohesion because the
             | latter can be more efficient.
        
         | bloggie wrote:
         | While I understand your perspective, I don't follow the
         | vindication. Viral marketing is a marketing strategy, it is
         | taught in marketing classes. Isn't it naive to believe
         | everything you see on the internet?
        
           | cobertos wrote:
           | It is naive, yet it is still read, believed and scored (and
           | score gives it more trust). The medium still seems
           | trustworthy but the individuals within it are not. And as the
           | internet has progressed, the percentage of trustworthiness
           | has slipped, but can also not be intuited directly from the
           | medium as there are no signals that have meaningfully changed
           | in the medium.
           | 
           | Only anecdotes from outside the medium can inform us to be
           | less naive. Or doing an analysis which takes effort, skill,
           | and time per-person
        
           | ndriscoll wrote:
           | Teaching young people to be dishonest in a school setting
           | doesn't somehow make it legitimate. It makes those classes
           | bad. Science classes aren't telling their students that they
           | could advance their career a lot faster and with less work if
           | they just make up data for their experiments. They
           | acknowledge it happens, condemn it, and tell students they'll
           | be failed or expelled for doing it.
        
         | gcr wrote:
         | It looks like the author was eventually able to fulfill the
         | orders in the end. What does the "lying" refer to?
        
           | datadrivenangel wrote:
           | I believe they made a fake post about someone documenting
           | their experience getting mailed the bag of candies.
        
         | edanm wrote:
         | > I don't have a great opinion of marketing in general and
         | therefore I'm often unconvinced with arguments like "marketing
         | is about fulfilling a customer's needs" or "adding efficiency
         | to the market".
         | 
         | I mean, on some level, _everything_ is marketing. People don 't
         | like marketing when it's fraudulent and morally suspect, which
         | of course makes sense - I don't like tech when it's morally
         | suspect, either!
         | 
         | But literally everything you know about, every product you use
         | on any kind of basis, every service you use, every creator you
         | follow, is something you know about because of _some_
         | marketing, directly or indirectly.
         | 
         | And I'm certainly happy about a lot of new
         | products/services/etc that I use, and think my life is richer
         | for it.
        
           | aziaziazi wrote:
           | > something you know about because of some marketing,
           | directly or indirectly.
           | 
           | That's a broad and vague truth. Parent critics direct
           | marketing. Also as exceptions makes the rules: the best item
           | I ever bought was a second hand bike on the local Craigslist.
           | Super cheap (repair included) and commuted +10000km with it.
           | The << marketing >> was the descriptive pictures and honest
           | description, I guess.
        
         | BeetleB wrote:
         | I listen to _How I Built This_.
         | 
         | It's not unusual to do this. Especially when they're trying to
         | get a retailer to carry their items. They'll create fake buzz.
         | Stuff like getting all your friends to go to a store asking "Do
         | you carry X?" soon after you've pitched X to the store is a
         | method that's worked for over a century.
        
         | therealdrag0 wrote:
         | Seems like a no harm no foul sort of situation.
         | 
         | If people on an entertainment site and entertained by the viral
         | marketing, and they order a product knowing what it is and get
         | the product they ordered, then what is the problem exactly?
        
       | catsma21 wrote:
       | you've got to have the eye of a hawk to achieve something like
       | this
        
       | nickjj wrote:
       | That reminds me of the toilet paper calculator during peak covid.
       | 
       | He put up a site in about half an hour and it ended up getting
       | coverage on TV which led to ~10 million visitors and it making
       | $5,000 a day in ads for a while. The core logic of the app is 6
       | lines of JavaScript to take a few inputs and do basic math on
       | them.
       | 
       | I ended up chatting with the creator on how he built and hosted
       | it back in 2020:
       | https://runninginproduction.com/podcast/35-determine-what-yo...
        
         | giarc wrote:
         | Thanks for sharing, just downloaded and will listen today.
        
       | buildsjets wrote:
       | I love eating a bag of Dicks on a sunny summer day.
       | 
       | https://keyw.com/dicks-burgers-changes-french-fries/
        
       | indigoabstract wrote:
       | I must say I quite enjoyed reading up on this great business
       | idea. It speaks to that 14 year old that's still inside us,
       | regardless of age.
        
       | TexanFeller wrote:
       | Haliey Welch showed us there's profit to be had. VCs funding
       | genitalia joke cryptocurrencies and ecommerce sites is my
       | prediction for 2025.
        
       | dr_kiszonka wrote:
       | I suggest edible hats for your next project.
        
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