[HN Gopher] 1972 Mercedes-Benz 600 Kompressor [video]
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       1972 Mercedes-Benz 600 Kompressor [video]
        
       Author : doener
       Score  : 54 points
       Date   : 2025-01-02 22:30 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | doener wrote:
       | The list of notable owner is long.
       | 
       | "Josip Broz Tito, who owned four 1965 LWB 6-door Pullmans, one of
       | which was armoured, and two LWB Pullman landaulets, acquired in
       | 1971 and 1978 respectively (both of these were of the very-rare
       | type where the folding parade roof extends to cover 2/3rds of the
       | vehicle top, only 9 were made with such a roof arrangement and 6
       | doors, and Tito was the only statesman in the world at the time
       | who had two such cars)."
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_600
        
       | dano wrote:
       | "Why yes, I am a third world dictator."
        
         | hinkley wrote:
         | Actual quote from the video:
         | 
         | > "AAAAH! You scared the crap out of me! I thought you were the
         | Shah."
        
           | inferiorhuman wrote:
           | Actual quote from the video:                 Why yes, I am a
           | third world dictator. How are you?
        
       | hinkley wrote:
       | Hydraulic power windows?? In doors?
       | 
       | Man, I had enough trouble bleeding a hydraulic clutch properly,
       | and that line was maybe 30 inches tops.
        
         | dawidloubser wrote:
         | And hydraulic power back seats, and a hydraulic sun roof (!!)
         | and hydraulic power aerial, and hydraulic controls for the air
         | suspension. Some models even had a hydraulic glass partition
         | between driver and passengers.
         | 
         | Absolute nuts. But the high point of dead-silent, powerful,
         | smooth conveniences no matter the maintenance cost.
        
           | TacticalCoder wrote:
           | > Absolute nuts. But the high point of dead-silent, powerful,
           | smooth conveniences no matter the maintenance cost.
           | 
           | Wife's car broke down (probably the water pump or just a
           | loose hose) on the highway while coming back from vacation.
           | As it was a very busy day where we were (France), there were
           | not any regular cab left so the insurance company sent us a
           | driver with... a Mercedes S class 550 (not a taxi but a
           | private driver: no "cab / taxi" thinggy on the roof). It's
           | still as you wrote: dead-silent, powerful and silky smooth.
           | 
           | Diesel engine but as a passenger I honestly couldn't tell,
           | even though I'm a petrolhead and tend to notice these things.
        
           | technothrasher wrote:
           | I used to have a Ferrari 355 with a hydraulic soft top...
           | sort of. The hydraulics (when they worked) only got the top
           | part of the way up, and you had to manually finish the job.
           | If the hydraulics didn't work, or the seat and window sensors
           | didn't work, which was frequently, you were out of luck. If
           | you disconnected the hydraulic system you could do the whole
           | job manually and it was actually faster to do it that way.
        
         | bri3d wrote:
         | Mercedes love using Anything But Electronics; even into the
         | 2000s they made cars with pneumatic power locks. I believe
         | there was a philosophy that electronic running gear felt wrong.
         | 
         | This trend was not universal as my W260 G-Class has only
         | electronic gear (locks windows, etc.), but I believe this was
         | an anomaly amongst Mercedes models.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | looking at wikipedia:                 "In 1963 the Mercedes-
         | Benz 600 was the most expensive car in the world."
         | 
         | I expect there was a team of people mobilized to maintain these
         | vehicles.
         | 
         | That said, I retrofitted a hydraulic clutch on a dirt bike that
         | came with a cable clutch. The precision movement was so
         | wonderful. I guess by carefully sizing the "sending" and
         | "receiving" cylinders, you can easily choose the exact amount
         | of movement or force you want.
        
           | hinkley wrote:
           | The best thing about the British roadster I had was that if
           | you were real careful you could get it moving from a
           | standstill in third gear. Compared to the piece of shit
           | X-shaped transmission on a piece of shit Chevy with no torque
           | that I learned on, this was a godsend.
           | 
           | Some of that was the hydraulic clutch, and part the engine -
           | which descended from tractor engine designs. But the other
           | thing you could do on that transmission was stomp on the
           | clutch pedal, shift out of 2nd on the way to the floor, and
           | into 3rd on the way back up. Where your foot was, the clutch
           | plate was, down to the mm. Fastest I ever shifted a car
           | without double clutching.
        
       | dawidloubser wrote:
       | I've always been into vintage Mercedes-Benz cars.
       | 
       | A talented and wonderfully jovial mechanic ran a specialist
       | workshop east of Johannesburg, in Brakpan (South Africa).
       | 
       | For a long time he had a Mercedes 600 - similar to the linked
       | video but with the M100 engine naturally-aspirated as standard -
       | in the shop.
       | 
       | That particular car, finished in a cream colour, belonged to Ian
       | Smith (1919-2007), the last colonial prime minister of Rhodesia
       | before it became Zimbabwe.
       | 
       | I got to spend a lot of time with the car, including several
       | drives in it, and especially seeing the mechanical bits exposed
       | including the ridiculously cool (silent, powerful) hydraulics
       | that operated every convenience of this car, from power windows
       | to power back seat.
       | 
       | While a Mercedes 600 indeed screams "head of state" or "pope" it
       | gets my vote for the all-time, no-holds-barred, most opulent and
       | classy car of all time with absolutely nothing kitsch or gangsta
       | about it.
       | 
       | A true high point of what Mercedes-Benz once was.
       | 
       | And don't get me started on it's little brother, the W109 300SEL
       | 6.3, of which there was a lovely example in the shop for a few
       | months as well. It drove and operated perfectly, I had the most
       | amazing solo test drive in that car, taking it to 200km/h.
       | 
       | This was in 2003, and the 300SEL 6.3 was for sale for $3,000 and
       | Ian Smith's 600 was about $12,000.
       | 
       | God if only I had the money then! I wonder where both of those
       | rarities, sitting in a small workshop in the East Rand in South
       | Africa, ended up at. Probably exported to Europe or the USA.
       | 
       | Anyway, just wanted to share that small anecdote.
       | 
       | P.S. The Chrome, Leather, and craftsmanship of a Mercedes 600 is
       | far beyond any Rolls or Bentley, of that or any other period. And
       | Mercedes vehicles of that era were made to last decades and
       | hundreds of thousands of miles down to every detail including all
       | the rubber parts. The disposable garbage churned out in the 21st
       | century simply fuel man's insane behaviour to constantly buy,
       | consume, discard.
       | 
       | There was a time when cars were made for a different modality.
        
         | sonofhans wrote:
         | I agree about Mercedes quality. The difference between them and
         | other cars like Rolls or Bentley, I think, is that Mercedes
         | were made to be owned and serviced by regular people. They were
         | built to be exceptionally robust, and that took pride of place
         | (for a while) over technical and luxury features.
         | 
         | The biggest Merc I've had was a W126, a 300SDL, and that was
         | magnificent.
        
       | trhway wrote:
       | Back then they were saying that the largest market for MB 600 in
       | 90-ies was Russia. Whether it was so or not, it definitely was
       | the car to drive for the mafiosos and for the government
       | bureaucrats. In the bleak, dirty, poor USSR/Russia those cars
       | looked like they were out-of-this-world, and in many senses they
       | were. They were de-facto separating 2 castes of people - the new
       | elite, so called "new Russians", from the rest. With reaching
       | points of absurd sometimes as for example not much can express
       | better that you're a "coolest" mafioso than driving with open top
       | an MB SL 600 cabrio in -20C in St-Petersburg's strong wind with
       | snow, and trying to look like you're driving on Sunset blvd
       | (coincidentally the most lawless mafiosos were called "otmorozki"
       | - "frostbitten [brains]")
        
       | kyleblarson wrote:
       | Recent sales on BaT: https://bringatrailer.com/mercedes-
       | benz/600/?q=mercedes+600
        
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