[HN Gopher] The Begining of the End for ANT+ Wireless
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       The Begining of the End for ANT+ Wireless
        
       Author : nradov
       Score  : 47 points
       Date   : 2025-01-04 20:19 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.dcrainmaker.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.dcrainmaker.com)
        
       | wslh wrote:
       | ELI5: Does this mean that, in the future, I will not
       | automatically see my heart beats on a treadmill without doing any
       | kind of device pairing?
        
         | jjtheblunt wrote:
         | Did you read the very first sentence of the article?
        
           | wslh wrote:
           | Yes, and that is why I was asking for the treadmill. The
           | article was confusing from the point of view of the user: go
           | to the treadmill and see your heartbeat appearing. What will
           | replace ANT+ in the future? How sport machines like
           | treadmills will react to this reality? You need two to tango:
           | health devices are only one side.
        
             | jjtheblunt wrote:
             | It looks like they're saying treadmills etc will
             | "balkanize" to build their own protocols. that seems more
             | difficult than something based off bluetooth. i agree that
             | the article gets more vague the longer it got. i guess time
             | will tell.
        
         | fuzzy2 wrote:
         | That was never ANT+ anyway.
        
       | rcdemski wrote:
       | Surprisingly well written and just detailed enough to not leaving
       | wanting more or overwhelmed. I never really got in to ANT+ land
       | with cycling but the couple things I tried I appreciated how
       | easily they paired up. Bluetooth feels like the obvious next
       | place but with so much momentum behind ANT+ I wonder how long
       | this transition will take.
        
       | notatoad wrote:
       | > They are discontinuing membership programs/fees
       | 
       | > They are discontinuing certification programs
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       | > They are however continuing to ensure ANT+ is available on
       | silicon
       | 
       | > All documentation to be made fully available online
       | 
       | funny how "the beginning of the end" kind of sounds excellent.
        
         | fer wrote:
         | You skipped:
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         | > They are ceasing development of new ANT+ Profiles
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         | Which kind of ensures a slow death, as new devices potentially
         | would require them.
        
           | notatoad wrote:
           | the most recent profile they added was an update to the
           | cycling shifter profile. before that, the most recent actual
           | new device type they added was radars in 2016.
           | 
           | ant+ is not a protocol that has or needs to have frequent
           | updates. opening it up could have been a lot more significant
           | than stopping the development of new profiles.
        
           | nimish wrote:
           | Good. It was a pointless standard now that ble exists.
        
       | mtrovo wrote:
       | I'm crossing my fingers that this EU move nudges Garmin, SRAM,
       | Shimano, etc. to collaborate on an open Bluetooth protocol. Sick
       | of the whole private extensions protocol approach.
        
         | stingrae wrote:
         | In the article it mentioned Bluetooth SIG sluggishness being
         | the primary reason that they didn't shift over.
        
       | thebruce87m wrote:
       | Slightly off-topic but can anyone recommend a cheap viewer for
       | the Garmin Varia Radars? It's ANT+ but I can bring myself to pay
       | hundreds for a bike computer when all I need is an LED and a
       | beeping noise to indicate a car behind me. Cheapest I can find is
       | a Bryton Rider 420.
       | 
       | I bought a mount for my phone but then discovered that vibrations
       | can kill the autofocus/stabilisation, even with a damper.
        
         | tguvot wrote:
         | if you can find used/new varia vision.
        
         | geor9e wrote:
         | So a phone app does everything, but you're just worried abut
         | your expensive phone? Get another. Search "android prepaid
         | phone" they're mostly around $30.
        
           | misnome wrote:
           | I think they meant that the vibrations mean the app doesn't
           | work because with the vibrations of the camera the picture is
           | useless, not that it damages the phone.
        
             | thebruce87m wrote:
             | No, it's the damage I was talking about: https://www.reddit
             | .com/r/cycling/comments/14s9fwm/comment/k5...
        
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