[HN Gopher] Building a Knowledge System That Enhances Rather Tha...
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Building a Knowledge System That Enhances Rather Than Replaces
Thought
Author : nsavage
Score : 43 points
Date : 2025-01-02 18:47 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| uludag wrote:
| This article touches on a tension I've been feeling too with the
| rise of LLMs. I feel that analogies can be drawn to time
| management and systems of productivity, like GTD. Like in a GTD
| system, you almost need the various projects, tasks, next steps,
| deadlines, commitments, etc. to live in your head so you can make
| intuitive decisions about what you should be working on at the
| moment; something that AI almost by definition can't do, since
| your subjectivity is essential in this process, but in certain
| ways may be able to assist.
| treetalker wrote:
| I've been sensing this too: people seem to forget about the
| principal and beneficial internal effect on the mind that
| results from mental exertion. I raised a similar point in
| another HN post today and someone downvoted me because they
| interpreted my statement as being too anti-LLM!
|
| We're reliving Socrates's lament about writing.
| Terr_ wrote:
| > From Socrates worrying that writing would destroy memory [...]
| Think of it as a partnership: the computer handles the
| organizational heavy lifting, while you focus on the thinking.
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| I'm less worried about memory _per se_ and more about failing to
| think, or getting brainwashed /ring-led by a system with its own
| biases and quirks. Any sufficiently complex organizing _is_
| thinking!
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| Perhaps the simplest example is when quantities (numbers, easy to
| record) get a mental weight that overshadows and hides their
| dimensions (the definitions, what they really mean.) For example,
| a tendency to automatically assume a rising GDP number is an
| unqualified good sign.
|
| Stuff like LLMs bring that into newer and more-dangerous
| territory, because the model also contains uncountable subtle
| biases from its training data, and even if you _know_ it isn 't
| aligned (heh) with your own mental models you can't reliably
| change it. Much like false-memories implanted by interrogators,
| patterns in those systems can and will leak into the users.
| Whenever we can't "think about how our thinking is being
| changed", I'd say that's _axiomatically bad_.
| Terr_ wrote:
| P.S.: Lest anyone think I'm a Luddite--not that I think that
| appellation is actually that bad--an example where I _would_
| use an LLM would be to help me generate synonyms or alternate
| inputs to a more-traditional search for a discrete external
| piece of information.
|
| For example, I might remember a book with a jester playing a
| lute and singing about ogres, and I just can't find any clear
| search results, because it was actually a bard strumming a harp
| with a poem about giants.
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| This is much less dangerous than just throwing every dang thing
| into LLM inputs (since prompt injection isn't a fluke, it's a
| way of life) or filtering the results back through the same
| model in an opaque fashion.
| vouaobrasil wrote:
| > What parts of note-taking should we digitize? What aspects
| should remain firmly in human hands? And most importantly, how do
| I create a tool that enhances rather than replaces human thought?
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| My personal philosophy is to use the most primitive methods
| possible and only use technology when there really is a strong
| need to go to the next level. It exposes what I really need, what
| are the weaknesses, etc. For example, I take all my notes with
| pen and paper. But if I find that I'm really referring back to
| something, I might write it up in a document. I don't see the
| point in digitizing everything right away if I'm never going to
| use what I write.
|
| Moreover, writing things first by hand helps me remember them
| better and "feel" the knowledge through my hands.
|
| Same thing with photography. I don't tend to use the burst mode
| on my camera unless I REALLY need it. When it comes to
| accomplishing things, I found (personally) that asceticism with
| tools is best.
| RaftPeople wrote:
| > _Moreover, writing things first by hand helps me remember
| them better and "feel" the knowledge through my hands._
|
| There was a science article recently that studied taking notes
| and it's results were that handwritten notes improved recall
| compared to typed notes.
| Kalq wrote:
| With regards to zettelkasten, I've always worndered where
| serendipitous discovery of notes goes from being actually
| worthwhile to frequently getting distracted but justifying it as
| productive.
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