[HN Gopher] Milan prohibits all outdoor smoking as ban takes effect
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Milan prohibits all outdoor smoking as ban takes effect
Author : austinallegro
Score : 31 points
Date : 2025-01-01 15:34 UTC (7 hours ago)
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| jwagenet wrote:
| Impressive, if just to reduce pollution from cigarette butts.
|
| And even more impressive if it is executed: > In November, a
| proposal in Britain to phase out smoking by young people passed
| its first parliamentary hurdle [...]
|
| > The bill would prevent anyone born after 1 January 2009 from
| legally smoking by gradually raising the age at which tobacco can
| be bought.
| 486sx33 wrote:
| What an awful proposition!
| pjerem wrote:
| Why? The idea is to ban smoking for people who never smoke
| while still allow already addicted people to smoke. So no
| prohibition (because there is still a legal market anyway),
| nobody have to change any habits.
|
| And I'd add that contrary to a lot of other drugs (including
| alcohol), cigarette is too old school and not cool enough
| anymore for youngsters to brave the law.
|
| It's pretty clever, no ?
| berdario wrote:
| Seems neat indeed... But
|
| > nobody have to change any habits.
|
| That could still be confusing though for tourists which are
| used to smoke at home
|
| OTOH laws regarding which substances are ok to
| consume/purchase differ by country anyhow. I mean, tourists
| used to purchasing weed or alcohol already have to be
| mindful that it is not necessarily legal to purchase in
| countries in which they might travel to.
| diggan wrote:
| > The idea is to ban smoking for people who never smoke
| while still allow already addicted people to smoke
|
| The idea seems to be about banning smoking based on age,
| not if they ever tried to smoke or not, which may seem like
| a minor distinction, but it's a vital one. I bet you most
| of the people who are addicted to smoking started smoking
| before the age limit (if there was one), not afterwards.
|
| It seems to me like smoking was decreasing by itself
| already (probably because of vaping if anything), and
| making it more illegal could counter that decrease.
| jerlam wrote:
| New Zealand was the first country to enact that type of
| absolute-date smoking ban a few years ago, but was recently
| repealed.
|
| Previous discussion:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38443957
| htk wrote:
| Last time I went to Milan, I remember that when I was in an empty
| alley with my wife I noticed something and my wife did as well,
| it was the only moment in the city we weren't smelling cigarette
| smoke. The city is beautiful and alive, but the pervasive smoking
| everywhere diminished my interest in ever going back.
| instagib wrote:
| Just for cigarettes as e-cigarettes get a pass and if you can
| find a place that is 10m away from people. Smokers will find a
| way.
|
| "The ban - which comes ahead of the Milan-Cortina 2026 Winter
| Olympics - does not apply to e-cigarettes.
|
| Situated in the middle of the industrial Po Valley and filled
| with road traffic, Milan is one of Europe's most polluted cities
| in terms of air."
| dzhiurgis wrote:
| As they should - smoke lingers order magnitudes further than
| actual nicotine
| potato3732842 wrote:
| So how's this work for people who live in non-smoking apartments?
| Or is that not a thing in Milan?
| synecdoche wrote:
| Cigarette smoke is one of the most disgusting and at the same
| time lasting odours. I think smokers are not aware of this. I can
| smell a smoker at 50 meters distance on the street.
| bdangubic wrote:
| one person's odour is another person's aroma :) /s
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