[HN Gopher] EU law mandating universal chargers for devices come...
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EU law mandating universal chargers for devices comes into force
Author : belter
Score : 44 points
Date : 2024-12-28 21:20 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.france24.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.france24.com)
| out_of_protocol wrote:
| Nothing about USB-PD in the law? Charging at 5W is not funny
| Const-me wrote:
| I'm not sure it matters; I hope market economy should do the
| rest. I believe it's slightly cheaper to manufacture a device
| with a single USB-C port which supports PD, compared to a
| device with two ports, one 5W USB-C and some other port for
| faster charging.
|
| A reason to not demand USB-PD, such law would prevent upgrades
| to later better version of that thing.
| orra wrote:
| > A reason to not demand USB-PD, such law would prevent
| upgrades to later better version of that thing.
|
| Can we apply some common sense please? You're right that not
| allowing revised standards would be silly. So, they simply
| update the law to reference newer versions of the standard.
| https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg_del/2023/1717/oj
| ChocolateGod wrote:
| The legislation covers radio equipment up to 100W, also power
| delivery is directly mentioned.
|
| _For 'fast' charging, the radio equipment listed in Part I of
| Annex Ia, if it can be recharged by means of wired charging at
| voltages higher than 5 volts, currents higher than 3 amperes or
| powers higher than 15 watts, must: (a) incorporate the USB
| Power Delivery (USB PD), as described in the standard EN IEC
| 62680-1-2 (as referenced in Annex Ia); and (b) allow for the
| full functionality of the said USB PD if it incorporates any
| additional charging protocol.
|
| 26. Is a radio equipment allowed to support a higher charging
| power (e.g. 40 W) when using a proprietary charging protocol
| than when using USB PD (e.g. 30 W)?
|
| The RED (in its Annex Ia, Part I, point 3.2), ensures
| interoperability with different charging protocols. For that
| purpose, radio equipment which is subject to the 'common
| charger' rules must 'ensure that any additional charging
| protocol allows for the full functionality of the USB Power
| Delivery referred to in point 3.1, irrespective of the charging
| device used.'*
|
| Source: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-
| content/EN/TXT/?uri=OJ:C_202..._
| wcoenen wrote:
| This is about Directive (EU) 2022/2380[1]. It does mention USB-
| PD:
|
| > _In so far as they are capable of being recharged by means of
| wired charging at voltages higher than 5 Volts, currents higher
| than 3 Amperes or powers higher than 15 Watts, the categories
| or classes of radio equipment referred to in point 1 of this
| Part shall:_
|
| > _3.1. incorporate the USB Power Delivery, as described in the
| standard EN IEC 62680-1-2:2021 "Universal serial bus interfaces
| for data and power - Part 1-2: Common components - USB Power
| Delivery specification";_
|
| [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-
| content/EN/TXT/?uri=uriserv%...
| orra wrote:
| This hopefully means the end to standards-violating nonsense
| like SuperVOOC? Originally SuperVOOC wasn't USB-PD compatible
| at all. Now, AIUI, SuperVOOC USB-PD, but only to lower
| wattages.
| polski-g wrote:
| Would be nice if this was extended to almost all products, using
| PD instead of the 5W.
|
| I have 20 different barrel plug wall warts in a crate used for 20
| different routers, switches, and other misc DC-powered products.
| transpute wrote:
| Fixed voltage PD-to-barrel cables help fill the gap.
| iagooar wrote:
| We are saved now.
| codeulike wrote:
| Recently bought an ipad mini 6th gen and I notice that although
| it seems to have a USB-C charge port, if you use a regular old
| USB-C to USB-A cable and wall-wart it only charges to 75%. You
| have to use the apple-supplied USB-C (at both ends) cable to
| charge to 100%. Not sure what is going on there exactly but it
| seems like malicious compliance.
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