[HN Gopher] Scale Model of Boeing 777-300ER, Made from Manila Fo...
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Scale Model of Boeing 777-300ER, Made from Manila Folders
Author : uticus
Score : 538 points
Date : 2024-12-27 16:53 UTC (1 days ago)
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| 0_____0 wrote:
| Someone made a comment here regarding magic recently that this
| reminded me of.
|
| Sometimes you can make something appear magical by spending far
| more time on the effect than anyone would ever think to do.
|
| Stunning work. I admire and envy the focus.
| hinkley wrote:
| The same can be true of magic.
|
| Penn and Teller's Fool Us had a couple of contestants per year
| that did a trick the hardest way possible. A couple times they
| gave the person the prize even though they knew how it was
| done. Like the people who "shuffled" an entire deck into a
| specific order, and/or used precise cuts rather than using
| marked cards or swapping the deck.
|
| There have been a couple people they've had back three times
| even if they knew how they did it, because they're just so
| good.
| ska wrote:
| > Sometimes you can make something appear magical by spending
| far more time on the effect than anyone would ever think to
| do.
|
| This is as good a definition of stage magic as anything, I
| suspect.
| hinkley wrote:
| Comedy has some of the same. Some comedians look like
| they're just rambling through random ideas that have popped
| into their heads, when in fact it's a patter they've been
| practicing for months and months. I have a lot of respect
| for the ones who can hide the seams between their various
| jokes and make them look like the funny uncle at family
| gatherings just riffing off of people or themselves for an
| hour.
| ajcp wrote:
| It's funny you say that because whenever I see a standup
| special and the comedian seems to randomly be prompted by
| something they see in the audience/off camera that leads
| them down a bespoke, yet perfect response/thread I have
| to think they are just making the prompt up.
| thechao wrote:
| At UT Austin, there was a Physics class called
| "Pseudoscience" taught by Rory Coker(?). The class was on
| precisely the topic mentioned; it was a _graded_
| attendance-based class. (You lost a grade letter for
| every 1-2 classes you skipped.)
|
| Rory was a master class mentalist -- literally world
| famous. When other world class magicians were on the
| continent or passing through they'd come visit him.
| Invariably, he'd make them do a 10m opener for the class
| (usually mentalist, illusion, and close up). Did I
| mention the class average was a C?
|
| Anyways, for the final, Rory did his trick: he chatted to
| us for a few minutes, drawing a picture; then we all had
| ~30s to draw a picture. Then, he chatted with some people
| -- kinda at random -- then picked one person to seal
| their picture in an envelope. At the end of the class was
| the reveal: he'd drawn this picture the girl drew. More
| importantly, _just about everyone_ drew the same picture.
|
| Then he made his point: depending on how he was feeling,
| there were about a half dozen pictures he could get an
| audience to draw.
|
| Eye opening.
| WalterBright wrote:
| If you ask a person to guess a number from 1 to 10, most
| will guess 7. 7 appears to be more "random" than other
| digits.
|
| I keep dice on my desk for generating random digits.
| glenngillen wrote:
| I'd estimate about 20 years ago I saw a British comedian
| called Ross Noble who did this. He almost acts like he's
| got some form of ADHD where he is permanently
| distractible, will switch topics mid-sentence because
| something else gets his attention. Someone came in late,
| so he asked them what took them so long. Someone wearing
| a hat catches his eye and he makes a comment and goes off
| on some tangent. Those tangents can be minutes long.
| Eventually he always goes "right, now where was I?" and
| resumes the scripted/rehearsed part of his show.
|
| And then... in the final minute or so of the show all of
| those seemingly random distractions and tangents come
| together to tie up the various stories and jokes he'd
| been telling! Decades later when I think about it it
| still blows my mind. They can't have been random at all.
| I've no idea if the various distractions were plants, or
| maybe they never existed at all and everyone in the
| audience just thought we were all too far away to hear
| whoever he was talking to? It was such a flawless
| execution though, only heightened by the fact he'd
| convinced you he was a rambling unfocussed mess for most
| of the night.
| ethbr1 wrote:
| Think about it this way: for comedians who write their
| own material and are prolific, their brains already work
| like that.
|
| So it's a bit different, but not _that_ different, to
| just riff off the cuff in realtime.
| bb88 wrote:
| What if you can do that with magic and comedy both at the
| same time? You get someone like Markobi.
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJX-z0O9TOE
| sneak wrote:
| It takes a huge amount of skill and talent to effectively
| ape Lennart Green.
| ethbr1 wrote:
| Penn referenced it in an interview somewhere, with the
| impression he was citing a well-known stage magic quip.
|
| Essentially: there are two ways to make something appear
| magical.
|
| - One is a gimmick (physical or otherwise), which is
| performed so well as to be invisible to the audience.
|
| - The other is simply doing something effortlessly that
| seems impossible without spending years of practice... but
| having actually spent years of practice on it.
|
| He cited some Teller trick that Teller brute forced by just
| practicing the movements for an entire year until he could
| do them reliably and flawlessly.
| the_af wrote:
| To be clear: if they absolutely know how the magician did it,
| they do NOT award the prize.
|
| They do award the prize if they know there's more than one
| way the person could have done it, but they cannot tell for
| sure which one was it.
|
| And they make it clear their show is not about the prize
| anyway, it's about the wonder of watching cool magic acts.
| The prize is a gimmick (but still, it's always fair and never
| staged).
|
| They always celebrate good magic, regardless of whether they
| can figure it out or not.
| WalterBright wrote:
| Offering a prize tends to bring out the best in people.
| the_af wrote:
| > _Offering a prize tends to bring out the best in
| people._
|
| If I remember correctly, the prize is a hook _for the
| producers_ , it's how they got approval for the show.
| It's not for the performers, which I guess are simply
| thrilled to perform for P&T and their audience.
|
| Interesting that I got downvoted for stating what Penn
| has stated again and again in their podcast.
|
| I guess people find it hard to believe these two guys
| truly do what they claim to do: award the prize to people
| who truly fool them, and celebrate all magic acts
| regardless of whether they are fooled.
|
| They've also stated the prize is an excuse for the show.
|
| They are _on record_ stating this, it 's not my
| guesswork, yet somehow saying this earned me a downvote.
|
| Oh well.
| hinkley wrote:
| The prize was an appearance at their Vegas show in addition
| to the trophy. They have broken their own rules a couple
| times.
| the_af wrote:
| Like when? Without a clear cut example where they admit
| it, this is just a rumor. Why would they break their
| rule?
| stevage wrote:
| Yeah or the guy who can pour a whole deck of cards onto the
| table and grab the right card out of the air. It's not a
| trick, he's just insanely practised at it.
| WalterBright wrote:
| I was chatting with an elderly friend one day, and a
| housefly buzzed by. He casually snatched it out of the air
| and crushed it.
|
| I was amazed. Howinell did he snatch a fly out of the air?
|
| He replied that he spent a couple years in a bed in the
| hospital recovering from war wounds, with nothing to do. So
| he practiced catching flies.
| the_af wrote:
| And in the show he picked a bunch of cards because he got
| nervous, which kinda spoiled the trick.
|
| Apparently in other sessions he was able to pick a single
| card. Insane!
| lisper wrote:
| The detail on this thing is just insane. The amount of time and
| effort put in is comparable to what it takes to build an actual
| aircraft.
|
| [UPDATE] Just to clarify: building an actual jetliner is
| obviously orders of magnitude harder than building this model.
| But I think building this model is probably comparable to
| building a light aircraft like this one:
| https://www.vansaircraft.com/rv-14/
| wslh wrote:
| Your point was clear to me, we can say that at the individual*n
| (n>=1) level of effort is comparable.
| Liftyee wrote:
| I cannot begin to comprehend how this was put together.
| Unbelievable amounts of dedication must have been involved.
| ComputerGuru wrote:
| (2014)
|
| I remember seeing this when it was first making the rounds
| (though I thought it was earlier than '14, but that's what all
| the press links date to). Incredible.
| mzs wrote:
| He's been at it since May 2008 and the latests updates on
| instagram are from this year:
| https://www.instagram.com/luca.iaconi.stewart/
| ComputerGuru wrote:
| Thanks for (possibly) vindicating my memory! I recall seeing
| this circa 2010 +/- a year or so.
| polishdude20 wrote:
| How does he come up with the 2d designs? They need to all fit
| together right? I feel like there some missing step between the
| reference material and the 2D illustrator designs.
| gavmor wrote:
| I'm interested in this, too! I've been mulling over the design
| of 3D puzzles from 2D, laser-cut MDF.
| gibspaulding wrote:
| Look into Fusion360. I've used it for similar projects in the
| past with some success.
| noduerme wrote:
| I've never tried it, but I wonder if designing in 3D and then
| printing out UV maps would be a good way to go? You'd at
| least end up with all the polygons and an outer shape to cut
| out, although whether you could fold paper along the edges is
| another story.
| SvenL wrote:
| On one page he mentioned that the airline supplied material
| which he used to create the designs in Adobe Illustrator.
| gibspaulding wrote:
| This threw me off too. Sure Illustrator is probably a better
| tool for this than pen and paper, but it seems like far from
| the best choice. I guess that just makes this all the more
| impressive.
| ninalanyon wrote:
| If only I had this degree of focus and willingness to work so
| hard on all the boring bits!
| fsckboy wrote:
| > _all the boring bits_
|
| your problem is not focus or willingness, it's being motivated
| by excitement rather than perfection. it's about the object,
| take yourself and how you feel out of the equation.
| berkes wrote:
| This is also a personality trait. Where ADHD has this in the
| extreme.
|
| I, having ADHD, cannot do any task if it's not motivated by
| excitement and newness (or forced by raw discipline, which is
| extremely energy consuming).
|
| Your comment sounds like "it's just a matter of changing your
| mindset". Maybe I read that wrong. But I know it's not just
| mindset changing. It's, e.g. with ADHD fundamentally wired
| into a brain.
| dylan604 wrote:
| For people that enjoy this type of work, what you call the
| boring bits are the exciting parts.
| 0_____0 wrote:
| The act is the reward. If you can convince yourself this is
| true for various things, you get really good at them fast.
| BillSaysThis wrote:
| If he adds AI, can he make it fly?
| SAI_Peregrinus wrote:
| With the application of sufficient force, any object can be
| made to fly at least once. No AI necessary.
| froggertoaster wrote:
| Humans are just amazing.
| qwertox wrote:
| This is the kind of work billionaires should pay millions for as
| if it were a painting, and display it proudly.
| foxglacier wrote:
| I'm sure he'd have plenty of offers if he was going to sell it.
| As long as it really requires a decade of work to produce,
| somebody might value it at the labor cost as a kind of proof-
| of-work. But what if he does another copy in only few months by
| reusing all the part designs? Its value could be destroyed.
| Probably has to become famous then die so that there's no
| chance of the same creator flooding the market.
| hk__2 wrote:
| At first I was confused by this "Made from Manila folders" which
| I didn't know; I thought these folders were some kind of
| information from something that happened in Manila, and that the
| author did the scale model based on what he had found in them
| loloquwowndueo wrote:
| Yeah and goldbeater's skin is not literally the skin of the
| actual person who beats the gold :)
| lizzas wrote:
| Like Manila is some tax haven that has had a wikileak?
| JBiserkov wrote:
| http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers
| numpad0 wrote:
| Yup, it's name of a thing, what gave icons of "file folders" a
| distinct notch and tan color.
|
| They were stored in "file cabinets", which can be still seen in
| Windows .cab file icons.
| fnord77 wrote:
| hope this ends up in a museum
| ffitch wrote:
| it's very inspiring!
|
| I wonder why manila envelopes. does envelope paper have
| properties uniquely fitted for this kind of modeling, or is it
| just nice color and suitable weight?
| idlewords wrote:
| These are folders, not envelopes. They are pretty stiff and
| hold their shape well. I bet any light card stock would do, but
| everyone of a certain age has experience with these folders;
| the fact that they're so basic makes this achievement extra
| special.
| ffitch wrote:
| I meant the folders, sorry!
|
| Is age the factor here? feels like they're just as ubiquitous
| today as they were when the author was in high school.
|
| I certainly appreciate the idea of crafting something special
| out of seemingly boring material, but the remark that they
| were taught to model with this paper in school made me wonder
| of it does have advantages over basic paper or cardstock.
| 0_____0 wrote:
| I think it may be that it's a fairly uniform thickness
| across manufacturers, whereas if you are getting cardstock
| from different places you would need to pay attention to
| paper weights (gsm).
| pseingatl wrote:
| The model looks cleaner than the aircraft's business class IRL,
| if recent videos are to be believed.
| idlewords wrote:
| To restore balance we need someone to make Manila folders out of
| a 777.
| UniverseHacker wrote:
| And then a full scale flying 777 from Manila folders
| datavirtue wrote:
| Elons next project.
| lizzas wrote:
| And fly it to the Philippines
| PaulRobinson wrote:
| I don't think Boeing need more ideas to cut costs and quality
| in engineering right now...
| delichon wrote:
| "The Ultimate Paper Airplane | WIRED"
|
| Ahem. https://newatlas.com/great-paper-airplane-project/21961/
|
| IMHO the actual flight characteristics of the aircraft are inputs
| to the `ultimate?` predicate function.
| kepler1 wrote:
| Made out of manilla file folders is approximately correct for the
| state of Air India's fleet right now.
| polairscience wrote:
| I'll comment on something different. His website is clean and
| awesome. Attention to detail just like the model. Love it.
| sema4hacker wrote:
| Exactly how many millions of hours did this take?
| stevesimmons wrote:
| The Singapore Airlines clip says that one took 750 hours and
| had 3000 parts.
| aaronax wrote:
| For something vaguely similar, as in a meticulous way of making a
| 3D object out of 2D materials with fine details, I recommend the
| Metal Earth products (puzzles?) as I find them to be quite
| rewarding. The complexity is probably two orders of magnitude
| less--think 10-20 hours to assemble the pre-designed and cut
| pieces.
| einpoklum wrote:
| I sympathize with how he must feel thinking about the 777-8 and
| 777-9 entering service soon, displacing the 300ER...
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777X
| exabrial wrote:
| These planes are incredible to ride on. AA runs a Charlotte <->
| Munich flight... the Premium Economy exceeds expectations for the
| money, like sleeping in a lay-z-boy.
| foooorsyth wrote:
| Premium economy to MUC out of CLT always annoys me because the
| legs that hold the seats up can _possibly_ be right in the
| middle of your under-seat space, making putting a briefcase
| under the seat in front of you impossible (the legs are
| unevenly spaced throughout the row so not all seats lose the
| space). They also have those fold-down footrests that I never
| actually use and take up more space. Paying more for a seat in
| which I might not even be able to access my work laptop is a
| bit annoying.
|
| Man, I sound like a diva.
| exabrial wrote:
| I feel like any class of seating except business suffers from
| that "near seat storage shortage". I tend to carry a soft
| sided satchel instead of a case for the reasons you state: it
| can be jammed pretty much anywhere
| foooorsyth wrote:
| Well in this case on the return flight I'm usually booked
| regular economy, and regular economy has no under seat
| space loss. I'm able to work the entire flight back from
| Europe on the cheaper ticket.
| datavirtue wrote:
| I would get a high from the first two or three seats...and
| then....I would abandon the project.
| zombiwoof wrote:
| Amazing
| andrewshadura wrote:
| I've looked up what the hell is a manila folder, and it turned
| out to be a paper folder looking exactly like a Windows folder
| icon, even with a matching yellowish colour. Maybe I grew up and
| lived in all the wrong countries, but I've never seen such a
| folder in my life.
| matthewmcg wrote:
| This is wonderful. The loving dedication to getting the details
| right reminds me of the engineer hobbyist that built a functional
| scale model of a Ferrari 312PB race car as shown on this classic
| Top Gear episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeUMDY01uUA
| mNovak wrote:
| Would love to see the files or precut sheets released as the
| ultimate scale model kit. It'd be really awesome to take these
| files to a laser cutter and make the model out of thin aluminum
| sheets.
| blt wrote:
| Excellent choice of aircraft. The 777 is one of the greatest
| engineering achievements of all time.
| tedd4u wrote:
| Posted here 4 years ago (885 points / 200 comments)
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23749821
| netfortius wrote:
| Looking at the picture captured in the youtube link, I wonder
| what kind of bolts are being used for the door?!? ;-)
| wasabinator wrote:
| This is amazing. I'd feel safer flying in this than the original.
| cloud-ranger wrote:
| There's obviously a high level of skill involved... However, if
| you want to experince the late 80's, change the playback speed of
| the landing gear video to 0.75 :D
|
| I'm assuming the guy doesn't have kids or cats, I can't even make
| a cup of coffee most days without one being in the way!
|
| I used to love to make things when I was younger but I was never
| this dedicated. I stopped at radio controlled models. I'm glad my
| mum bought me a TI99/4A when I was a a kid, so my hobby turned
| into my career.
| globalnode wrote:
| 1:60 scale model... i got excited for a moment based on the
| (misleading) title.
| ChrisMarshallNY wrote:
| This is an awesome project!
|
| Someone (with copious free time) is just a _wee bit_ obsessive.
|
| Hate to say it, but I can sort of relate (but I don't have enough
| free time to do something this intricate).
| fasa99 wrote:
| For sure, a lot of hard work and energy went into this project.
| Some say that if Boeing had that kind of energy, their planes
| might even fly!
| nelblu wrote:
| The amount of dedication, passion and art is absolutely amazing.
| It reminds me of https://www.phildragash.com/ where he did a
| complete audio of the Lord of the Rings book along with music
| edited from the actual soundtrack. I believe it can still be
| downloaded from here https://archive.org/details/the-fellowship-
| of-the-ring_sound...
| hurtmyknee wrote:
| This is terrific, thank you for sharing!
| timnetworks wrote:
| Doing this all by hand shows immense skill, but printing directly
| onto manilla folders is talent and ingenuity.
| xiphmont wrote:
| My God, that model is utterly beautiful.
| nunez wrote:
| Wow; this is amazing. I was looking into who makes their seats
| for business/first (I usually assume it's Rockwell Collins but it
| might not be) and was shocked to see how old their product is on
| this aircraft. The business class seats look like those from the
| 90s!
| rayiner wrote:
| Air India... The 777s were purchased new in the early 2000s and
| not upgraded since then. https://www.businessinsider.com/air-
| india-economy-cabin-i-fl...
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