[HN Gopher] ChatGPT Saved Chats: Save and organize your importan...
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       ChatGPT Saved Chats: Save and organize your important conversations
       in ChatGPT
        
       Author : s-sameer
       Score  : 40 points
       Date   : 2024-12-26 15:51 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | amelius wrote:
       | I wish I could search through my chats more easily.
       | 
       | But I don't want to download extensions, they are too security-
       | unfriendly.
        
         | s-sameer wrote:
         | Hey, all chats are stored locally. Also, it is open source:
         | https://github.com/s-sameer/chatgpt-chat-saver
        
           | amelius wrote:
           | Ok, but oh, I use Firefox ...
        
             | Nightloaf wrote:
             | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34306708
        
         | rallyforthesun wrote:
         | I learned today, that o-1 is able to search through all chats
         | and can find and verify if the findings are relevant to the
         | actual context. i found that very usefull as i have a lot of
         | very long chats regarding only one project. ChatGpt lists the
         | findings with the date and context and searches further back if
         | asked for it. (in my case summer 2024)
        
           | graeme wrote:
           | Wait, how do you do that?
        
             | rallyforthesun wrote:
             | I did just ask to remember from our last chats, if we
             | hadn't this particular bug discussed before.
        
         | kccqzy wrote:
         | Why not just copy paste these chats and save them into a local
         | file?
         | 
         | I mean I've been copying chats with my friends and saving them
         | locally since the time online chats were called Instant
         | Messaging.
        
       | ramoz wrote:
       | I've always wanted better search and chat organization.
       | 
       | But I'm at a place where I can't determine if the ephemeral UX of
       | chatting with AI (ChatGPT, Claude) isn't actually better. Most
       | chats I want to save these days are things like code snippets
       | that I'm not ready to integrate yet.
        
         | s-sameer wrote:
         | That is a perfect use case for having an extension like this.
         | It makes it easier for you to jump back into a previous
         | conversation and is primarily what I use for as well.
        
         | rubymamis wrote:
         | You could join my native, cross-platform client waitlist[1] if
         | you're looking to use your OpenAI API key. Work-in-progress but
         | it's coming along pretty fast.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.get-vox.com/
        
       | askafriend wrote:
       | Personally I'll wait for OpenAI to add this feature directly. I'm
       | sure they're working on it.
       | 
       | I don't want this solution delivered in the form of an extension
       | (one practical reason is I use ChatGPT from mobile a lot of the
       | time). I have 0 extensions installed in general.
        
         | Larrikin wrote:
         | Why do you subject yourself to web ads?
        
       | brettgriffin wrote:
       | There are two technologies I use every day that demonstrate a
       | company is capable of solving an incredibly hard problem, X,
       | while completely dropping the ball on the presumable easier part
       | of UX, Y. ChatGPT is one of those. Driving in my Tesla is the
       | other. I'm not sure how or why it happens but I think it about it
       | daily.
        
         | s-sameer wrote:
         | lol ikr, its crazy this doesn't already exist
        
         | perchard wrote:
         | perhaps Y is harder to solve than you are assuming
        
           | llamaimperative wrote:
           | "Harder [for the organization in question] to solve" is
           | definitely right
           | 
           | Not really an excuse though, since a product company's
           | mandate is to create a product that doesn't leave its
           | customers baffled about apparently missing functionality.
        
         | kraftman wrote:
         | But each chat has a unique link that you can just bookmark
         | right?
        
           | brettgriffin wrote:
           | Of course. But I use it dozens of times a day across dozens
           | of projects. Many of the concepts are linked together.
           | Intelligently indexing, linking, and referencing them seems
           | like a pretty obvious feature. I doubt I'm in the minority in
           | expecting this.
        
           | s-sameer wrote:
           | It basically offers a much better user experience, than
           | manually bookmarking each link
        
           | graeme wrote:
           | Is it possible to bookmark a chat on mobile? Haven't found a
           | way to do so on ios
           | 
           | Claude has a way to star important conversations. Don't think
           | chatgpt has that.
           | 
           | My only solution so far has been aggressively deleting
           | conversations once I find and answer and know I don't need it
           | for reference.
        
             | fragmede wrote:
             | in the ChatGPT iOS app, I can long click on the chat itself
             | on the left sidebar, and one of the options is"share chat".
        
               | graeme wrote:
               | Ah. That one actually makes a public link and doesn't
               | work if there are images or under some circumstances.
               | 
               | On desktop you can directly copy the url for reference
               | and open it later
        
         | tmpz22 wrote:
         | Ineffective dog fooding. PMs might use it every day but they
         | only use a subset of functionality. Some engineers may
         | intentionally never use it when they get home because they're
         | so sick of looking at it. Some engineers doing crazy esoteric
         | but it doesn't propagate because their heads are down within
         | the org. Most people are only showcasing exclusively happy
         | paths to leadership, sorry I meant management. Executives only
         | using it for emails, demos, and again a limited subset of happy
         | paths.
         | 
         | Just burnout, siloing, and a lack of creativity. We can't solve
         | these problems in the industry because we are greedy short term
         | thinkers who believe we're long term innovators. To say nothing
         | of believing we are smarter and more entitled then we are
        
       | behnamoh wrote:
       | The fact that you even need something like this shows how far we
       | are from truly useful language models. Because ideally they
       | should have all of the context of all of the messages in their
       | mind, and so far we've had to manually manage that context for
       | them.
        
         | themanmaran wrote:
         | To be fair this is less a language model problem, and more in
         | the application layer around them.
         | 
         | Theoretically with an infinite context window a model would
         | just work fine forever by shoving the entire conversation
         | history into context with each request. But a message
         | search/retrieval makes a lot more sense.
         | 
         | I think the long term AI chat is just relatively new as a UI
         | pattern, and so it takes time to build patterns around it.
         | 
         | Ex: in 2023 I told GPT to answer all questions like a pirate. I
         | never told it to stop doing that, so if we're loading every
         | historical chat in memory, should it still be answering as a
         | pirate?
        
           | Vampiero wrote:
           | > Theoretically with an infinite context window a model would
           | just work fine forever by shoving the entire conversation
           | history into context with each request. But a message
           | search/retrieval makes a lot more sense.
           | 
           | Nope, with an infinite context window the LLM would take
           | forever to give you an answer. Therefore it would be useless.
           | 
           | We don't really have such a thing as a context window, it's
           | an artifact of LLM architecture. We are building a ton of
           | technology around it but who's to say it's the right
           | approach?
           | 
           | Maybe the best AIs will only use a very tiny LLM for actual
           | language processing while delegating storage and compression
           | of memories to something that's actually built for that.
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | You need something like this if you want to use them as a
         | reminder. Even if LLMs could remind you of past chats, they
         | wouldn't know which chats you want to be reminded of. It's like
         | marking chats as favorites. You actually have to mark them
         | yourself, for anyone to know which chats are your favorites.
        
       | deknos wrote:
       | is there something like that for firefox?
        
       | maxbaines wrote:
       | I built my own client (llmpad.com) to originally solve this
       | problem, as well as using other LLM's and features. A little
       | surprised others have not done this too? You can try llmpad soon,
       | feel free to message me.
        
       | theropost wrote:
       | I regularly use the request data button on ChatGPT, then parse
       | the JSON and output HTML for each conversation, and a DB to
       | search for the file(s) when needed.
        
       | jrs235 wrote:
       | Is it just me or is ChatGPT down?
        
         | s-sameer wrote:
         | I think it was down yesterday
        
       | jaredsohn wrote:
       | OpenAI has already built some of this but maybe it requires a
       | paid account.
       | 
       | https://mashable.com/article/chatgpt-chat-history-search-int...
       | 
       | It also has projects (says is for Plus, Team, and Pro users).
       | https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10169521-using-projects-...
        
         | s-sameer wrote:
         | Thanks for sharing that...I don't use the pro plan so I built
         | this extension to allow everyone to bookmark their important
         | chats for free
        
           | s-sameer wrote:
           | all chats are stored locally, so there are no privacy
           | concerns either
        
         | istorical wrote:
         | I would not trust OpenAI to retain my chats given that their
         | model for what is a TOS-violating conversation evolves every
         | week or every month.
         | 
         | Any outputs they generate that one finds useful need to be
         | retained outside their walled-garden.
        
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