[HN Gopher] Ghostty 1.0
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Ghostty 1.0
Author : matrixhelix
Score : 561 points
Date : 2024-12-26 20:14 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| mrjbq7 wrote:
| This is a neat blog post explaining part of the magic:
|
| https://gpanders.com/blog/ghostty-is-native-so-what/
| VeejayRampay wrote:
| thanks Mitchell for all the hard work, it's nice to see quality
| and competition in this field
| leetrout wrote:
| I'm very excited to have this because it's the first bit of high
| quality open source software to hit the streets in a while.
|
| I like where we're headed with tools like this and Ladybird[0]
| for hope of a subscriptionless future.
|
| Thank you, Mitchell!
|
| [0] https://ladybird.org/
| progbits wrote:
| > I like where we're headed with tools like this and
| Ladybird[0] for hope of a subscriptionless future.
|
| That's a weird statement. I've been running a free, open-source
| and subscription-less browser (firefox) and terminal emulator
| (many) for close to 20 years.
|
| Actually I like what ladybird is doing in the browser space,
| given firefox is quite dependent on google cash. But this is
| just yet another terminal emulator in a sea of them. The only
| two distinguishing features I can see are hype and native UI
| (which mac users care about for some reason -- my native UI is
| a borderless rectangle in tiling WM).
| SG- wrote:
| native UI is so much more than how a border of a window looks
| like.
| urbandw311er wrote:
| Your rebuttal is not mutually exclusive to the parent
| comment. They say it's the first _new_ such thing in a while,
| not that there aren't any in existence.
| brcmthrowaway wrote:
| What was the last one? Ghidra?
| feznyng wrote:
| The author has a dev log I'd recommend if you're curious about
| what makes it different + general goodies on Zig/terminal
| emulators.
|
| https://mitchellh.com/ghostty
| stmonty wrote:
| Awesome, I have been waiting for this since you originally
| announced it. I also enjoyed the blog posts.
| icapybara wrote:
| Congratulations
| kristopolous wrote:
| I assume this is mostly a mac thing? The effort to get this up
| and running on debian appears to be a bit more work than normal.
| SG- wrote:
| it's a Mac and Linux thing.
| mrjbq7 wrote:
| $ git clone git@github.com:ghostty-org/ghostty.git
|
| $ cd ghostty
|
| $ zig build -Doptimize=ReleaseFast
|
| $ ./zig-out/bin/ghostty
| beanjuiceII wrote:
| tried this doesn't work do i need some specific zig version?
| eddythompson80 wrote:
| 0.13.0
|
| https://github.com/ghostty-
| org/ghostty/blob/4b4d4062dfed7b37...
|
| The full script is pretty much:
|
| $ wget https://ziglang.org/download/0.13.0/zig-
| linux-x86_64-0.13.0....
|
| $ tar xvf zig-linux-x86_64-0.13.0.tar.xz
|
| $ git clone git@github.com:ghostty-org/ghostty.git
|
| $ cd ghostty
|
| $ ../zig-linux-x86_64-0.13.0/zig build
| -Doptimize=ReleaseFast
|
| $ ./zig-out/bin/ghostty
| javierhonduco wrote:
| Zig 0.13 is required according to
| https://ghostty.org/docs/install/build
| autarch wrote:
| It also seems to need a fairly new gtk4. At least the
| version in Ubuntu 22.04 is too old.
| mrjbq7 wrote:
| I imagine package managers will start picking this up shortly
| since it just released publicly.
| do_not_redeem wrote:
| I just want to say thanks for the minimum-contrast option:
| https://ghostty.org/docs/config/reference#minimum-contrast
|
| I've grown so sick of tools/TUIs that output unreadable text
| (like Debian's ls that defaults to dark-blue-on-black for
| directories). I look forward to never manually theming a terminal
| app again!
| thenipper wrote:
| This is great. I'm middle aged and I've definitely noticed my
| eyesight needs more and more help in the contrast dept
| rand0m4r wrote:
| thanks for sharing
| sitkack wrote:
| Is there a bounty for zero days?
| selectnull wrote:
| Yes, your name will forever be on that pull request.
| BSDobelix wrote:
| So I will see how well it works on FreeBSD, but I love the
| development model, keeping it "closed" for the 1.0 (focus and
| polish), I have not tested it yet, but it already "feels" like
| professional engineering work.
| wutwutwat wrote:
| source is open https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty
| afatparakeet wrote:
| Only as of 1.0 release I believe was their point.
| Jarred wrote:
| I've been using Ghostty for several months now (used Alacritty
| before that). Ghostty is really, really good. It's fast, it gets
| the text rendering right (many cross-platform terminals struggle
| with this), and it has all the features I need.
|
| It's also some very well-written Zig code. We use some of the
| code for graphemes in Bun for `Bun.stringWidth`.
| SnowingXIV wrote:
| Likewise coming from alacritty myself. This out of the box
| gives me everything I really want and does it well. Not to
| mention the development process was quite refreshing to see.
| Decision making process for sane defaults and to allow
| customization quite easily.
|
| Nicely done.
| modernerd wrote:
| Ghostty has a hard-to-find "quake mode" that may interest some.
|
| During the beta I had it configured like this on macOS:
| keybind = global:cmd+space=toggle_quick_terminal quick-
| terminal-animation-duration = 0.1
|
| There isn't an option to set the default height of the "quick
| terminal" window that I'm aware of but you can drag the bottom of
| the window after it opens and it will persist between toggles.
| alejoar wrote:
| This is the first thing I went looking for when looking at the
| docs, thank you.
| swyx wrote:
| what does quake mode do?
| vorpalhex wrote:
| Scroll down from top on any screen
| diggan wrote:
| Comes from video games where you usually can hit ~ (tilde)
| or other character to make a in-game console appear,
| usually sliding down from above or at least in the top
| half/third/quarter of the screen. Popularized by Quake and
| games from that heritage (like Source engine) I suppose.
|
| Desktop equivalent is that you have a terminal available at
| a short-cut/button-press that will always show it but not
| fully hide the rest, no matter what other context you're
| in. Pretty handy.
| jedisct1 wrote:
| Super handy!
| freehorse wrote:
| Thank you! First thing I was looking for too. Cannot imagine
| trying a terminal without this.
| gigatexal wrote:
| Where does one add this? Is there a config file?
| modernerd wrote:
| https://ghostty.org/docs/config
|
| On macOS, pressing [?]+comma with Ghostty in focus opens the
| config file.
|
| Quit and reopen Ghostty to load the updated config (or bind
| another key to the reload_config action: https://ghostty.org/
| docs/config/keybind/reference#reload_con... ).
|
| Keybinds are explained here:
| https://ghostty.org/docs/config/reference#keybind
| gigatexal wrote:
| I just saw this https://ghostty.org/docs/config and was
| coming to update my post when I saw your comment.
|
| Thank you!
|
| Imma try out ghostty, WezTerm, and Rio thanks to this
| thread. And why not use them all. For terminal minded folks
| we are surely spoiled.
| thomaslutz wrote:
| Downside is that the quick terminal doesn't support tabs.
| Unfortunately that's currently a dealbreaker for me.
| fishgoesblub wrote:
| I initially scoffed when I read "platform-native UI" as I've
| found programs made in Electron typically proclaim something
| similar when they are anything but native, so when I saw it used
| GTK for Linux (SwiftUI for MacOS) my interests were piqued.
| Always fun to mess around with new terminal emulators.
|
| edit: alas, it doesn't support bitmap fonts..
| videlov wrote:
| I have found the following community site for generating Ghostty
| config quite helpful https://ghostty.zerebos.com/
| loeg wrote:
| > For example, on macOS, Ghostty supports Quick Look, force
| touch, the macOS secure input API, built-in window state recovery
| on restart, etc. These are all native APIs provided by macOS that
| don't have equivalents in Linux desktop environments.
|
| I believe window state recovery has some approximate equivalent
| in GNOME and KDE, but maybe not exactly the same (and I don't
| know how easy it is to integrate with).
| eliaspro wrote:
| On X11, Gnome and KDE Plasma supported session/state restore,
| but this was based on XSMP and couldn't be simply reused for
| Wayland.
|
| There's an ongoing standardization effort to provide equivalent
| functionality for Wayland:
| https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/m...
|
| KDE Plasma provides a "fake session restore" for the time
| being: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-
| workspace/-/merge_reque...
| ksec wrote:
| This feels like the Vagrant moment [1] again. Cant believe 15
| years have passed already.
|
| Together with Bun I believe that is two high profile open source
| software made with Zig.
|
| [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1175901
| BrouteMinou wrote:
| Wayland WM "River" is great too.
| alberth wrote:
| For those who don't have the background:
|
| - created by Mitchell (founder of HashiCorp)
|
| - it's developed in Zig (and Mitchell recently pledge $300k to
| Zig foundation)
|
| - uses native UI (which is super rare for cross platform app)
|
| - amazingly performant. e.g.
| https://hachyderm.io/@mitchellh/111919642467789362
|
| - has lots of amazing small details like below
|
| https://hachyderm.io/@mitchellh/113330304084905500
|
| https://hachyderm.io/@mitchellh/113443002518588524
|
| https://hachyderm.io/@mitchellh/113166930440000852
|
| This has been a passion project of his for the past 2-years and
| he's completely MIT open sourced it. He's spent a lot of time
| thinking and ensuring this project can persist in the future even
| without him.
|
| Many people have tremendous respect for Mitchell's technical
| abilities, as well as hugely respect _how_ he operates (genuinely
| nice person and thinks about things long-term and does the hard
| work for sustainability).
|
| Lots more to read at: https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-is-
| coming
| saberience wrote:
| It doesn't work in Windows so how is it cross platform?
|
| Also, I've been using terminals since DOS in 1990 and never
| once have I had to say, "I wish this terminal had more
| performance", so I'm not sure that performance is really
| relevant here. If I write a command to build my project which
| takes 10 mins to build, does it matter whether the terminal
| command ran in 10 milliseconds vs 1 millisecond?
|
| In the linked speed demo one command was 8 milliseconds faster
| than another. Ok?
|
| Is a terminal written in Zig better than one made in C++ or
| Rust? Again, unsure why its relavant at all.
| marcus0x62 wrote:
| > It doesn't work in Windows so how is it cross platform?
|
| Linux and macOS are different platforms. Would calling it
| multi-platform make you happier?
|
| > Also, I've been using terminals since DOS in 1990 and never
| once have I had to say, "I wish this terminal had more
| performance",
|
| I remember the Windows terminal being unbearably slow in the
| past and wishing it had better performance.
|
| Maybe this just isn't for you.
| SG- wrote:
| are you still running DOS too?
| sweeter wrote:
| Ghostty, Mitchell, and the community around Ghostty, are all
| really amazing and pleasant to work with. I've had a lot of fun
| hanging out in the Discord, and sending in a couple of PR's.
| Everyone is really kind and accommodating. It's a pretty great
| example of how to run a community and open-source project, even
| this early on.
| sureglymop wrote:
| Does it support Ctrl+Scroll to zoom? Somehow I got used to this
| years ago and unfortunately not a lot of software supports it.
| Have been using Wezterm until now, which does.
| baq wrote:
| > cross-platform
|
| > no Windows download
|
| Um, that's not what cross-platform... used to be I guess? Am I
| just old?
| qup wrote:
| How many platforms are required? I noticed it doesn't have an
| OS/2 download.
| metadaemon wrote:
| missing z/OS as well...
| loeg wrote:
| No, cross-platform just means more than one platform. It
| obviously is that: Mac and Linux.
| BrouteMinou wrote:
| Obviously! ...
| kermatt wrote:
| https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty#roadmap-and-status
| eikenberry wrote:
| Windows support is planned.
| thiht wrote:
| I've been very disappointed with Alacritty (no support for split
| term in favor of tmux) and WezTerm (insane config format, config
| has no business using a full fledged programming language)
| feature wise, so I have high hopes regarding Ghostty, can't wait
| to try it!
| medimikka wrote:
| Config being a programming language has insane advantages. Not
| only can I error check my config in vim or Visual Code, I can
| do insane things with logic that just don't work in other
| config file approaches. My laptop is connected to a 32" 4k
| monitor at work, standalone while traveling, and to a 27" 2k at
| home. WezTerm "knows" that, and sets things such as font size
| and line height automagically.
|
| Even more, I can have split logic based on window size, window
| titles that show me who also checked out a file while I am
| inside an editor, even per-window color and font schemes.
|
| All apps should use something like Lua for their config.
| thiht wrote:
| It's great that you (and many others) find it useful, but I
| genuinely have no idea what this is about. I switch my iTerm
| from my 13" MBP, 32" monitor, and iPad all the time, and I
| don't need any config to make it work. Maybe I just don't
| care enough about this stuff but I don't see what I would
| even configure this way.
|
| Anyway, this is the reason I love the new wave of terminals,
| they bring new stuff on the table and anyone can find one
| they love. I just installed Ghostty and it works as I expect
| out of the box, with even less config (0) than I have on
| iTerm. And it's fast. Now I just hope they'll add a config UI
| some day (one of the reasons I prefer static config files:
| you can't really get a UI with a programming language) and
| I'll be in terminal heaven
| gigatexal wrote:
| Hmmm this actually has me thinking of looking at WezTerm now
| hah
| gigatexal wrote:
| I have a similar setup could you link your config? Id like to
| adapt it.
| root_axis wrote:
| I've used wezterm for years and have never done anything
| fancy with the config, but this sounds awesome. I'd really
| appreciate it if you could link your config or a similar
| resource.
| Fnoord wrote:
| I solve that by using zellij locally (I use tmux remotely).
| Bonus points: I can close or upgrade Alacritty without losing
| session.
| mikkelam wrote:
| I have honestly been so excited to try this after listening to
| several videos of mitchell talking about his work. What a
| christmas present!
|
| A terminal is so dear to us software engineers, and this seems
| like such a love declaration to the terminal.
|
| Time to spend hours tuning my config!
| jedisct1 wrote:
| This is by far the best terminal emulator I've ever used.
| mitchellh wrote:
| <3 This has been a work of passion for the past two years of my
| life (off and on). I hope anyone who uses this can feel the love
| and care I put into this, and subsequently the amazing private
| beta community (all ~5,000 strong!) that helped improve and
| polish this into a better release than I ever could alone.
|
| Ghostty got a lot of hype (I cover this in my reflection below),
| but I want to make sure I call out that there is a good group of
| EXCELLENT terminals out there, and I'm not claiming Ghostty is
| strictly better than any of them. Ghostty has different design
| goals and tradeoffs and if it's right for you great, but if not,
| you have so many good choices.
|
| Shout out to Kitty, WezTerm, Foot in particular. iTerm2 gets some
| hate for being relatively slow but nothing comes close to
| touching it in terms of feature count. Rio is a super cool newer
| terminal, too. The world of terminals is great.
|
| I've posted a personal reflection here, which has a bit more
| history on why I started this, what's next, and some of the
| takeaways from the past two years.
| https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-1-0-reflection
| the_mitsuhiko wrote:
| Thanks so much for this. I really enjoy using it and I also
| refer to the source code quite a bit as I'm trying to get more
| familiar with Zig :)
| indigodaddy wrote:
| Looks really awesome. I'm going to sound like I don't belong in
| the hipster terminal club, but the reason I shied away from
| some of the other terminals is the lack of tabs, which looks
| like yours has when I did a quick Google question/search. (if
| wezterm and the like have them, I must have missed it or it
| wasn't obviously apparent in the settings how to achieve them).
|
| I know everyone will say but tmux and/or native multiplexing
| bla, but I'm kind of old school and only do screen remotely if
| needed, and I just like a lot of terminal tabs in my workflow
| with a quick mod left/right arrow to navigate between (and if
| native multiplexing in Ghostty is simple and easy I'd probably
| do some of that too). Perhaps this is why I've never left
| iterm2.
| onli wrote:
| Wezterm does have tabs, and their related keyboard shortcuts
| are configurable.
|
| See https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/config/lua/keyassignment/S
| paw... for a starting point in the config.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| Thanks!
| jyap wrote:
| Quick correction: I currently use Wezterm on Linux and it has
| tabs. Alacritty does not for developer philosophical reasons.
|
| Looking forward to checking out Ghostty.
| mitchellh wrote:
| We've got native tabs and splits on both macOS and Linux. :)
|
| WezTerm has tabs but they're not native UI elements.
| indigodaddy wrote:
| Right, I was admittedly too lazy to dig far enough with
| wezterm it appears. Was looking for the button to click I
| guess.
| GreenWatermelon wrote:
| Wezterm has tabs right out of the box and they are fully
| customizable, though I prefer tmux since I prefer to not have
| my data extinguished if I accidentally close the terminal :D
|
| WezTerm shines in ease and breadth of configurability due to
| using lua, so it's simple to have the theme change between
| light/dark depending on host OS theme.
| gigatexal wrote:
| Yeah. I could get by with the default Linux terminal and tmux
| really. Tmux is just the best. Second to vim it's the single
| most useful thing I've ever used.
| dotancohen wrote:
| I also use tmux, but I love the native tabs of Konsole in
| KDE. I have Shift-Arrow configured to move between them, it
| is far more comfortable than the dual shortcuts needed by
| tmux, Ctrl-B to call tmux's attention then l (if I remember
| correctly) to get to the last tab.
|
| Konsole also has easy resizing of text and supports images in
| the console, you might like it.
| jbergstroem wrote:
| I've been a beta tester from very early on. I came for the
| performance but stayed for the stability. I've only had a rare
| few crashes and all but one was a duplicate in the bug tracker.
|
| I thought I needed search but as Mitchell put it, not a 1.0
| feature. Ripgrep was always the answer.
|
| Very happy to share the ghostty experience with the world!
| levlaz wrote:
| Thank you for making this! I've been waiting to use it for
| quite some time. Really happy to take it for a spin.
| filmgirlcw wrote:
| Thank you for building this! I've loved using this over the
| last two months or so and really appreciate the work you've put
| into it.
|
| I've been a very happy iTerm2 user and support the dev on
| GitHub Sponsors (and I'll continue to do that), but I love your
| commitment to making a fast, native app (and cross platform, no
| less) and really appreciate this very obvious labor of love
| that has also been really interesting to watch from afar as the
| development has progressed!
| cmgriffing wrote:
| No mention of Cool Retro Term!?!? Typical elitist behavior...
| /s
|
| I'm just having a bit of fun, but it is a fun terminal every
| once in a while. https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
| cbushko wrote:
| I think you've done an excellent job running the community for
| Ghostty and it is a prime example of how to do it right. From
| the Discord to Github repos you've been a class act all the way
| through and have pushed folks to be good, civil internet
| denizens. Much respect.
|
| If anyone cares to search through Github, they will see loads
| and loads of Issues and PRs created by Mitchell in many of the
| related Open Source projects that Ghostty uses/references. From
| zig to kitty to supporting libraries, Mitchell has been trying
| to get the terminal community working together and have some
| sort of standards. A lot of them are like "X does this, Y does
| that, why are you doing it this way? Can we all do it this
| way?" and then having Ghostty follow the most reasonable
| solution (or supporting several!).
| arghwhat wrote:
| Just make sure not to get caught in the pitfall that is maximum
| render speed, which can lead to missing out on efficiency
| during slow and partial rendering.
|
| Missing damage tracking, always painting everything (even when
| the window is a full 4k monitor), etc. kills performance and
| input latency when dealing with realistic redraw workloads like
| text editing, blinking cursors and progress bars. Much too
| often to terminals worry only about the performance of `cat
| /dev/urandom`...
| cayley_graph wrote:
| Right, input latency is what matters for me. I'm not seeing
| whether they've measured that in the docs/on Github.
| underdeserver wrote:
| For those interested, the link below from Mitchell's blog
| explains the different goals he's trying to reach, compared to
| other terminal emulators.
|
| https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-is-coming
| gigatexal wrote:
| Shoutout to you sir for Shouting out the other terminals. It'd
| be easy for someone of your fame and talent and history to ride
| the hype to the GOAT of all terminals. But you stayed humble.
| Props.
| Fnoord wrote:
| Alacritty on macOS and Linux user here (Windows Terminal on
| Windows due to easily different shells available, formerly used
| iTerm2 on macOS). I make up for lack of tabs with zellij
| locally (tmux remotely). Also allows me to relog or
| close/update Alacritty. I will give Ghostty a whirl but why no
| shout out to Alacritty? Which features am I missing out on?
| dang wrote:
| Related. Others?
|
| _Ghostty 1.0 Is Coming_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41914025 - Oct 2024 (32
| comments)
|
| _Ghostty Devlog 004_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37709113 - Sept 2023 (2
| comments)
|
| _Talk: Ghostty and Some Useful Zig Patterns_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37491031 - Sept 2023 (2
| comments)
|
| _Mitchell Hashimoto 's Ghostty Devlog_ -
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36736686 - July 2023 (1
| comment)
| frou_dh wrote:
| I wonder how the colour rendering is. Usually when I configure
| some editor in a terminal to use specific #rrggbb 24bit colours I
| like, the end result does not render the same as in non-terminal
| software (confirmed in the past with an eye-dropper tool).
| 999900000999 wrote:
| Has anyone put up an Arch Aur yet ?
| SG- wrote:
| https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ghostty
| 999900000999 wrote:
| Thanks!
|
| This is why I love HN. I had already installed from source,
| but this makes updating easier after all.
| dsp_person wrote:
| AUR not even needed
| https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/ghostty/
| luckydata wrote:
| Could someone give me an idea why I would want to use this
| instead of any other terminal?
| jeremy_k wrote:
| Same request. As someone who uses the standard Teriminal
| application on my MBP I'm wondering what benefits I might find
| from Ghostty
| orliesaurus wrote:
| simplicity, feels zen-mode vs a lot of over-the-top-terminals
| these days
|
| also (from the docs):
|
| > Ghostty supports the Kitty graphics protocol, light/dark mode
| notifications, hyperlinks, and more. This lets terminal
| applications like Neovim, Zellij, and others do more than they
| could in other terminal emulators.
|
| Application features are higher-level features that are useful
| for interacting with the terminal emulator itself. For example,
| Ghostty supports native tabs, splits, a drop-down terminal on
| macOS, theme switching on system dark/light mode, etc.
| antirez wrote:
| After a quick test this looks incredibly good and fast. I'll use
| it as a terminal for the next weeks to see how it goes, but I
| have good feelings. Thank you so much for writing it.
|
| EDIT: WOOOW, for me this is going to be a game changer. I was
| just working at Redis stuff outputting a ton of debugging info
| and results, and normally the terminal was the bottleneck, and
| here instead it printed _half million_ of results in the blink of
| an eye. And then I could go back in the history without any
| performance degradation. I love this: for development of systems
| it makes a big difference.
| bun_terminator wrote:
| The little it says about what this even is seems to be wrong.
| This is not cross-platform at all
| mitchellh wrote:
| It works on both macOS and Linux.
| SG- wrote:
| Windows is a third class citizen when it comes to the
| development world.
| metaltyphoon wrote:
| Lmao this statement is so funny.
| nhumrich wrote:
| In case anyone is wondering, this terminal appears to work just
| great on windows by using WSLg.
|
| I installed on linux inside WSL, then launched it, and it
| looks/works great. Clipboard also works.
| st3fan wrote:
| Looks great. Eagerly waiting to be able to "Use Left Option as
| Esc+" like iTerm has. Without it, it is nearly impossible to use
| Emacs.
| zimpenfish wrote:
| Was just looking for how to configure this globally. You can
| create a keybind for every key[0][1] but that's a bit silly
| faff nonsense in current year 2024.
|
| [0] e.g. `keybind = alt+f=esc:f`
|
| [1] Which affects both option keys, sadly.
| lilyball wrote:
| See `macos-option-as-alt`
| lilyball wrote:
| Look for `macos-option-as-alt`. The Ghostty docs use the term
| "Alt" here to mean using the key as a terminal input modifier
| rather than for macOS text input. This setting allows you to
| specify only one option key to use this behavior for.
| rewgs wrote:
| Overall nice, but I'm bummed to be running into some bugs
| regarding a few key binding assignments. Though, I could just be
| missing something due to the somewhat spartan docs.
|
| Given all the time and hype, I'd have hoped that wrinkles like
| this would've been ironed out by launch time.
|
| Back to Wezterm for now, but I'll certainly be checking back in
| at some point.
| sigmonsays wrote:
| any nix users aware of a derivation?
| vluft wrote:
| there's a flake in the official repo that works fine for me
| (nixos unstable)
| jhatemyjob wrote:
| Upon installing this, I went straight for this part of the
| documentation:
|
| https://ghostty.org/docs/config/reference#macos-non-native-f...
|
| Unfortunately the "tabs not working in non-native fullscreen"
| thing is a dealbreaker for me, so I will be switching back to
| iTerm 2.
|
| But Ghostty as a whole looks promising. I like zig, zig-objc, MIT
| license, libghostty, config via text file. I will check back
| every month or so because I really want to use this. But my hate
| for macOS native fullscreen outweighs everything else.
|
| Edit: Ok here we go, this is why it's not implemented:
| https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/issues/392#issuecomme...
|
| There's more than one workaround which is superior in my opinion:
| https://i.imgur.com/iWoqrM0.png
|
| IIRC you can even use AppKit to remove the
| close/minimize/fullscreen buttons, so it would just be a blank
| bar.
|
| You could go a step further and use private APIs / objc runtime
| voodoo to set the height of the titlebar to 0. That might outside
| your design philosophy though.
|
| Also, FYI, clicking the green fullscreen button still uses macOS
| native fullscreen, so you definitely want to disable that button
| (which is a public AppKit API) when you have that option enabled
| block_dagger wrote:
| Nice work! How does this compare to Warp?
| do_not_redeem wrote:
| - open source
|
| - faster
|
| - no AI bloat
|
| - no telemetry
|
| - no obnoxious warning banner if you run without admin access
|
| - no VCs that will enshittify the app in a few years
|
| - doesn't require an internet connection and an account to
| access motherfucking bash on your local machine
| c2xlZXB5Cg1 wrote:
| Startup time was very bad until I disabled adwaita with
| gtk-adwaita = false
| skerit wrote:
| This is very nice! How do I work around remote SSH shells
| complaining like `Error opening terminal: xterm-ghostty`?
| mikergray wrote:
| https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo#ssh
| SG- wrote:
| https://ghostty.org/docs/help/terminfo
| gregwebs wrote:
| Warp has been meeting all my needs other than tab switching
| behavior. It's not open source but the UX is great.
|
| Switched from WezTerm which was working cross platform but not
| quite as good.
|
| Both are low latency and written in Rust.
| howon92 wrote:
| To people who tried using it, what are the reasons to use it over
| iTerm2?
| brcmthrowaway wrote:
| Could GPT5 or Claude written this from scratch?
| throwaway0665 wrote:
| of course not
| micahkepe wrote:
| Been trying it out for a few hours and love it! One feature that
| I do miss from Kitty is the cursor trail when your cursor moves
| in a buffer. Excited to see what Ghostty does in the future and
| thank you for a great new terminal!
| makapuf wrote:
| Just want to share what I just realised, but the author is no one
| else than the mitchell hashimoto from hashicorp, so not exactly a
| newbie ! Would it have killed you to let us poor 99% have a bit
| of fun too? (And also reach a bit of your determination, skill
| and talent)? (no, really, kudos, well done and thanks)
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