[HN Gopher] Merry Christmas Everyone
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       Merry Christmas Everyone
        
       What are some of your favorite memories from Christmas? Share them
       here :)  - Josh :)
        
       Author : joshagilend
       Score  : 1438 points
       Date   : 2024-12-25 03:10 UTC (1 days ago)
        
       | GarnetFloride wrote:
       | Merry Christmas One memory was getting a PowerMac G4 which was
       | totally cool because it was classified as a munition.
       | 
       | Another was getting thru to mom while I was in Europe and
       | watching the phone counter start counting up really fast.
        
       | codevark wrote:
       | When I was six my parents got me a 26" Schwinn single-speed bike.
       | It was as tall as I was. I rode it until college, doing things
       | that were heretofore unknown to science. IT WAS GREAT.
        
       | dc_ist wrote:
       | Unwrapping Ocarina of Time. My parents had me convinced it was
       | sold out everywhere. That moment is seared into my brain.
        
       | Yhippa wrote:
       | Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you too. One of my fondest
       | memories was getting a tiny battery-powered train set when I was
       | around 6. No idea why I liked it so much. We didn't have many
       | toys growing up so you had to enjoy the heck out of the ones you
       | did get. I remember when I opened it up the room was dark and we
       | sat under the light of our fake Christmas tree with multicolored
       | lights.
       | 
       | My kids have too much these days and wonder if they will ever
       | experience something like that.
        
       | qntmfred wrote:
       | And on earth peace, goodwill toward men
        
       | changexd wrote:
       | Merry Christmas homies! We don't really celebrate Christmas in my
       | country but I would still like to wish you all a great holiday!
       | much love <3
        
         | kyrielei wrote:
         | Merry Christmas ^^
        
       | haliax wrote:
       | Came home from Christmas Eve shopping/sight seeing in Manhattan
       | with my dad and baby sister to find that our mom had gone and
       | gotten us a puppy! I'd never had a dog before. It remains one of
       | the best and happiest memories of my life :)
        
         | jakebasile wrote:
         | What did you name the dog? This never happened to me, but if it
         | did I couldn't resist giving it a Christmas themed name.
        
           | haliax wrote:
           | Polar Bear! He was a Bichon Poodle mix and his tail hadn't
           | grown in yet so he looked exactly like one of the little
           | polar bears from the Coca Cola commercials
        
       | mrbluecoat wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
        
         | michaelsshaw wrote:
         | God jul, and Merry Christmas to you, personally, my friend!
        
         | tylerflick wrote:
         | Merry Christmas!
        
           | jamieplex wrote:
           | To you too!
        
       | calrain wrote:
       | Back when I was very young, with my family, cousins, all over at
       | my grandparents place, having lots of fun.
       | 
       | Here in Australia, Christmas is in our summer, so we used to have
       | watermelon seed wars where everyone runs around the house eating
       | watermelon as fast as possible to build up a mouthful of seeds to
       | use as 'ammo' to machine gun spit at everyone else.
       | 
       | Was hilarious, and a very long time ago...
        
       | lazystar wrote:
       | three days before xmas in 2022, my partner of 6 years threatened
       | to kill me because i was scared to travel through an ice storm to
       | her mom's house. while she was downstairs getting her pocket
       | knife, i texted her best friend for help and got her to call her
       | and she talked her down. the ice storm prevented any travel for 2
       | days; we still made it to her moms for xmas, but i was gone
       | mentally for the next year and a half.
       | 
       | broke up with her in may this year; this is my first xmas all
       | alone. all my friends and family moved out of state years ago,
       | and i spent all my vacation days and sick days studying for a
       | coding interview that i had last week for my dream job. i bombed
       | it, partly because of anxiety, partly because ive been procedural
       | programming for 8 years and suck at OOP principles, and partly
       | because the PTSD makes it tough to study/concentrate around xmas.
       | 
       | anyway, im drinking a bottle of mccallan, out here alone with my
       | two cats, and its still a better xmas than the last two years.
       | apologies for trauma dumping, just tipsy i guess.
       | 
       | oh and i did get the oracle java 8 associate cert last night, so
       | i got that going for me, which is nice.
       | 
       | edit:
       | 
       | best xmas memory was playing KOTOR 1 when it came out, while
       | eating a big tub of dansk sugar cookies. that dantooine music was
       | lovely
        
         | CoastalCoder wrote:
         | Sorry about the crappy part, and congrats on the good stuff!
         | 
         | If it's any encouragement, I bombed a bunch of interviews
         | during my 14 months of unemployment, but in January I'm
         | returning to a position I loved.
         | 
         | Just saying that you shouldn't extrapolate too much from even a
         | string of such things.
         | 
         | Hope your new year is awesome.
        
           | lazystar wrote:
           | thank you, and congrats! best of luck in your new job!
        
             | CoastalCoder wrote:
             | Thanks!
        
         | jemmyw wrote:
         | I don't know if there's a way to ask with sensitivity, but I'm
         | very interested to know why you stayed with her for 18 months
         | after she threatened to kill you?
         | 
         | Sorry about the job, happens to the best of us. I think when
         | it's the dream job you're that much more likely to bomb. I quit
         | my dream job because it couldn't pay the bills and joined a
         | place I thought I wouldn't last at, now in year 8 it turns out
         | it was the dream job.
        
           | lazystar wrote:
           | no worries, been asking myself that question too. my best
           | guess is that i had disassociated because i couldnt bear the
           | cognitive dissonance from accepting the fact that i was in an
           | abusive relationship. before that incident, everything in
           | that relationship had been going well - but looking back i
           | see that i was slowly becoming more and more reliant on her
           | for her network of friends and her family, which made
           | breaking up a difficult thought to consider. anyway, the
           | other thing going on was sleep deprivation from a severely
           | deviated septum - i broke up with her in may 2024 after a
           | couples counseling session, in which she a) tried to blame me
           | for the stabbing incident, and b) admitted to kicking me
           | awake every night over the previous 4 years when i snored.
           | 
           | anyway. got surgery to fix that apnea issue in july, and ive
           | been getting back to my old self.
           | 
           | edit: the other jarring thing was just how successful i was
           | at work. anyone that uses AWS lambda benefited from my
           | projects in 2023/2024 - some of that stuff got L10 visibility
           | inside AWS. i guess i spent all my mental energy at work,
           | even though i was (and still am) fully remote/WFH. anyway it
           | was tough to reconcile my failures in my personal life with
           | my successes in work life - i was both a failure and a
           | success.
        
             | willismichael wrote:
             | Godspeed, stranger. Sometimes just taking the first steps
             | can be the hardest part of taking care of yourself. Keep it
             | up, and best of luck during the new year.
        
             | lizzas wrote:
             | Well thank you. My current job is probably only possible
             | due to lambda!
        
               | lazystar wrote:
               | nice. yw; lots of cool stuff coming in 2025/26. we're re-
               | focused on the needs of the customer, rather than
               | internal metrics.
        
               | lizzas wrote:
               | Yep the isolation lets us run completely untrusted
               | workloads. "Us" is not my team, I am adjacent, so I am
               | not fully across which buzzwords but it is pretty cool.
        
             | roughly wrote:
             | I had a relationship turn that way, too, and had the same
             | reaction - it took way too long to recognize what had
             | happened and to step back and realize what I had to do. I
             | didn't want to admit it was over, I didn't want to admit
             | I'd been wrong, and I didn't want to let go of the future
             | I'd been imagining. When I got out, I looked back and
             | realized I'd basically played the exact script from every
             | story you ever hear about that kind of relationship - you
             | know, the story where you hear it and say "that was stupid,
             | I'd have just...", except it turns out I wouldn't have
             | just, because I didn't.
             | 
             | All that's a long way to say I'm sorry for what you went
             | through, and if any of what I've said resonates, you're not
             | alone and I encourage you to forgive yourself.
             | 
             | Enjoy your Christmas. Being alone ain't the worst thing in
             | the world.
        
           | jtxt wrote:
           | OP's relationship story sounds so familiar to me.
           | 
           | [Insert TMI story.] Cycle of abuse:
           | https://psychcentral.com/health/cycle-of-abuse
           | 
           | Fortunately, it ended ok. I healed for over a year before
           | dating again, and dated someone for exactly a year to make
           | sure it was good relationship. It still is. :D
        
         | artimaeis wrote:
         | Man that Christmas playing KOTOR was phenomenal. First game I
         | remember beating and immediately restarting to see the other
         | storylines. Christmas cookies for sure enhances the experience.
        
           | matheusmoreira wrote:
           | I have a similar experience with Mass Effect. Completed the
           | trilogy just in time for Christmas. Just getting lost in
           | another universe like that is amazing and it's becoming
           | increasingly difficult as I get older. Really treasure these
           | moments, they remind me of a carefree childhood. Never played
           | KOTOR myself but I always read great things about it. Look
           | forward to playing it one day.
           | 
           | Merry Christmas.
        
             | burgerzzz wrote:
             | Same with 007 on n64
        
               | jamiek88 wrote:
               | Was just going to chime in with this. Goldeneye on n64
               | Xmas day, selection box and sticky controller. What I
               | wouldn't do to feel that innocent safety again.
        
         | edm0nd wrote:
         | Cheers homie! I'll go pour myself some Angels Envy and drink
         | with ya.
        
           | lazystar wrote:
           | cheers!
        
         | whatamidoingyo wrote:
         | > i bombed it, partly because of anxiety
         | 
         | I feel this. Can't tell you how many interviews I bombed
         | because of anxiety. The worst one I had spent like 3 months
         | interviewing with the company, passed all of their tests, etc.
         | When it came time to meet the team, I just froze. I answered
         | all of their questions correctly, but it was like I wasn't
         | myself. I became extremely slow, stammering my words, and just
         | blanking out. The CTO couldn't take it anymore and said "just
         | stop talking. This isn't going to work". I quickly ended the
         | call without saying anything and felt so defeated. What is
         | wrong with me.
         | 
         | That was years ago. I'm much better now, mostly because I have
         | the confidence in my skills, but it still comes up, especially
         | when people are being aggressive during interviews.
         | 
         | Anyway, Merry Christmas. I wish you the best.
        
         | mynameisvlad wrote:
         | If it was the Seattle ice storm you're talking about, WTF. I
         | could barely walk 10 feet out to let my dog out for potty/poop,
         | let alone driving a car through that. The entire city shut down
         | for the day.
        
           | lazystar wrote:
           | yep. she had a dually truck and got home from the barn at
           | 5pm; the storm was set to hit at 5:30. she wanted to load up
           | the gifts, luggage, cats in the truck, travel 2 hours to a
           | ferry down the backroads, and gamble on beating the storm.
           | when i said i was scared, she went ballistic. never seen
           | anyone get that mad before; being stuck with her in that
           | house for 2 days after that was the worst moment of my life
           | (as homer simpson would say, worst moment of your life... so
           | far!)
        
         | jongjong wrote:
         | It's hard to comprehend how much mental trauma someone must
         | have gone through to be so unstable and violent.
         | 
         | The range of human experiences is significant. Humans
         | communicate using the same languages and same expressions but
         | mentally, different people are wired very differently.
         | 
         | Trauma seems to spread like a virus.
        
         | olalonde wrote:
         | That's horrible, sorry you had to go through that. I can't even
         | imagine the mental toll, Java 8 really?
        
           | lazystar wrote:
           | my specialty's always been refactoring legacy codebases; java
           | 8 is gonna be the new FORTRAN lol
        
           | drunkonvinyl wrote:
           | That resulted in a loud chuckle. My mind was perfectly
           | prepared to not expect a punch line, and it smacked me over
           | the head. Thanks for the Christmas gift of laughter.
        
             | olalonde wrote:
             | Glad I gave you a laugh, Merry Christmas! :)
        
         | mynameyeff wrote:
         | If you enjoy high-end scotch, you're a good person in my book.
        
       | jedberg wrote:
       | I'm Jewish, so all my Christmas's growing up were kinda the same.
       | Sleep in, have brunch, wander over to my neighbor's house around
       | noon to see what kind of loot they got and help them play with
       | their new toys. Sometimes we'd go out for Chinese food and a
       | movie.
       | 
       | But my favorite was Christmas 1999. My girlfriend was out of town
       | with her family and there was no reason to go home to mine, so I
       | was alone (my roommates were with their families too). I decided
       | to go to the movies in Emeryville.
       | 
       | I was going to see Galaxy Quest, Bicentennial Man, and Man on the
       | Moon. The timing lined up perfectly to see all three. About 50
       | other people were there to do the same thing. When it was time to
       | go in for the first movie, a staff member came out and told us
       | that it would start about 30 minutes late. This would of course
       | cause us to miss all the other movies.
       | 
       | About 30 people stepped forward at the same time and asked to
       | speak to the manager. :). We explained to him that it would throw
       | our whole schedule off. Since it was Christmas, he was kind
       | enough to adjust the schedule so that we could all see all three
       | movies.
       | 
       | That was a great day.
        
         | ianwalter wrote:
         | Wow what a great set of movies too
        
           | jedberg wrote:
           | 1999 is considered by many enthusiasts as a peak movie year.
           | It was a great cap to a great year.
           | 
           | https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title_type=feature&releas.
           | ..
        
             | ianwalter wrote:
             | I guess I never really thought about it, but yea a lot of
             | bangers on that list
        
             | cjbgkagh wrote:
             | Oh that explains it, I thought it was just when I came of
             | age. I did become suspicious that perhaps it wasn't just a
             | personal bias when I noticed the same movies on lists made
             | by very different age groups.
        
               | jedberg wrote:
               | I graduated in 1995 in LA. Going to the movies was
               | something most of us did every weekend. Just show up and
               | get a ticket for the next thing you haven't seen yet.
               | 
               | Many consider 1994 the best single year for movies ever.
               | 
               | I got really lucky that that was also my peak movie going
               | year.
        
               | alex1138 wrote:
               | 1994: Shawshank, Forrest Gump... can't think of others
               | right now
        
               | Lio wrote:
               | Pulp Fiction and Shallow Grave were two from 1994 that
               | spring to mind for me.
        
               | jedberg wrote:
               | https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title_type=feature&rel
               | eas...
               | 
               | Pulp Fiction
               | 
               | Lion King
               | 
               | The Mask
               | 
               | Four Weddings and a Funeral
               | 
               | Dumb and Dumber
               | 
               | The Crow
               | 
               | Speed
               | 
               | True Lies
               | 
               | Interview with the Vampire
               | 
               | Natural Born Killers
               | 
               | Ace Ventura
               | 
               | Stargate
               | 
               | Clerks
               | 
               | The list goes on. Lot's of movies that turned out to be
               | classics or cult classics, or the start of some great
               | careers.
        
               | TheSpiceIsLife wrote:
               | It was around this time, in a little city of about
               | 15,000, in South Australia, when my mum received a gift
               | and voucher from Blockbuster for being in the top ten for
               | most movie rentals in one year.
               | 
               | This was a time when movies were on VHS tapes, and there
               | was a bit before the start of the movie that said
               | something like "have you seen every movie ever made?"[1]
               | 
               | And at the time it certainly felt like we had watch
               | nearly everything that store and one other had over the
               | previous five years.
               | 
               | 1. https://youtu.be/VfuzebAAesk?si=z3-HYkZwJK6mmtWP - I
               | think there was at least a couple variations
        
             | j45 wrote:
             | That is one pretty unbelievable list.
        
             | vladgur wrote:
             | Of course it was peak - the Matrix came out
        
               | globular-toast wrote:
               | Nobody even knows about _Dark City_ which came out the
               | same year. Because the freaking _Matrix_ came out too.
               | That 's just how many good films there were that year. If
               | _Dark City_ came out today it would be lauded as most
               | original thing in a decade.
        
               | IOT_Apprentice wrote:
               | Don't forget about Equlibrium with Christian Bale as a
               | Tetragrammaton Cleric. Gunkata.
        
               | ablation wrote:
               | It hasn't held up too well objectively, but Equilibrium
               | does hold a fond memory for me.
        
               | riezebos wrote:
               | Isn't that from 2002?
               | 
               | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equilibrium_(film)
        
               | koudelka wrote:
               | Don't forget about _The 13th Floor_ , also from 1999.
        
               | vladgur wrote:
               | Youre right, Dark City was amazing.
               | 
               | But the elevator lobby shootout from Matrix -- that scene
               | ruled my home theater configuration for at least a decade
        
               | OliveMate wrote:
               | Worth mentioning Office Space as well for 99. All three
               | of those films comprise the _Pre-Millennium paranoid,
               | existential, system of control_ trilogy.
        
               | rkachowski wrote:
               | iirc scenes from the matrix were actually filmed on some
               | of the sets from dark city. The atmosphere and setting
               | directly bleeds over.
        
               | AlbertoGP wrote:
               | And Dark City was delayed after it was finished, it
               | should have come out before The Matrix. I copy here my
               | previous HN comment from June 2023:
               | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36415981
               | 
               | ---------------------------------------------------------
               | ----------------------------------------
               | 
               | I watched Dark City years after watching The Matrix (on
               | opening in the cinema) and I enjoyed it very much, have
               | watched it multiple times over the years.
               | 
               | Here is Dark City's director Alex Proyas: "Alex Proyas
               | on: The Matrix copying Dark City"
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytxjsetVIRM
               | 
               | And this is a juxtaposition of some scenes with
               | background music: "The Matrix vs. Dark City."
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moW17YHl6B8
               | 
               | This is Mr. Hand [Richard O'Brien] talking in "Memories
               | of Shell Beach":
               | 
               | > It was a very groovy movie, you see?
               | 
               | > I remember saying to Rufus Sewell [who played the
               | protagonist], I said, you know, it actually, truthfully,
               | it really doesn't matter, does it, whether it's a box-
               | office success because we're going to get paid as actors
               | anyway, sorry Alex [Proyas] but this is true, we're gonna
               | get paid as actors anyway and isn't it nice to be part of
               | something which is groovy?
               | 
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrK4U6PEu94&t=1029s
        
               | whoisstan wrote:
               | I refer to dark city all the time when creating AI
               | agents, when Kiefer would inject them with particular
               | memories when the city stood still. And Shell Beach pops
               | into my mind when I take the train to the former grandios
               | Coney Island.
               | 
               | Existenz was another unique underappreciated movie of
               | that year and whose theme never got picked by any other
               | movie. When Jude Law realizes that the Chinese food he is
               | eating can be put together to assemble the gun my mind
               | was blown.
        
               | BLKNSLVR wrote:
               | The Matrix, Dark City, The Thirteenth Floor, and
               | Existenz.
               | 
               | Saw all of them in 1999 / 2000, my career direction was
               | decided in that brief period.
        
               | soulofmischief wrote:
               | Dark City released in February, 1998. Great movie,
               | though.
        
               | sgt wrote:
               | Didn't expect Dark City to be mentioned in the Christmas
               | thread. Great movie, indeed. Dark, mysterious and thought
               | provoking.
        
               | mckirk wrote:
               | Fun fact: 1999 was also 'peak public phone booths'. Ever
               | since then, they've declined in number and now are almost
               | impossible to find. Every year it gets harder to follow
               | that damn rabbit...
        
             | lazystar wrote:
             | huh, american beauty was 99. i always remember the "plastic
             | bag caught in the wind" scene - when i was in middle
             | school, years before i saw the movie, i was sitting on the
             | sidelines during football practice and saw a plastic bag
             | caught in the wind. it was hypnotizing, enrapturing - i
             | dont know how long i watched, but that floating bag caught
             | against the side of the school building was one of the most
             | beautiful things ive ever seen.
        
             | globular-toast wrote:
             | It was peak music too. I really don't think things have got
             | much better since 1999. If you watch/listen to something
             | even from 1997 it seems dated. But 99? Could have been made
             | yesterday.
        
             | auselen wrote:
             | I wasn't aware of this, was still a teenager at that time.
             | May be because of this I was never impressed with later
             | years...
        
             | JKCalhoun wrote:
             | I punched in 1972 and there were some fantastic movies that
             | year (The Godfather, Deliverance, Cabaret, Solaris,
             | Jeremiah Johnson, Aguirre - the Wrath of God, The Last
             | House on the Left, Silent Running, The Heartbreak Kid, Fat
             | City, etc.).
             | 
             | Also tried 1973 -- same (The Day of the Jackal, Soylent
             | Green, Westworld, The Wicker Man, Papillon, American
             | Graffiti, The Sting, Serpico, Mean Streets, High Plains
             | Drifter, Don't Look Now, Badlands, The Long Goodbye, Jesus
             | Christ Superstar, The Three Musketeers, Fantastic Planet,
             | etc.).
             | 
             | I think they simply made better movies decades ago.
        
               | kizer wrote:
               | Maybe if they stopped the endless reboots, remakes,
               | sequels and derivatives. There's still a good one every
               | once in a while. Oh well, I know what movie I'm watching
               | today... you'll shoot your eye out, kid!
        
               | JKCalhoun wrote:
               | Welcome to Hollywood's two decades of superhero
               | movies.... I'm sure historians will greedily watch many
               | of the classics of this early part of the 21st Century.
               | 
               | It's Christmas, I shouldn't be so negative.
               | 
               | I think I'll indulge in Alastair Sims' version of "A
               | Christmas Carol".
        
               | cjbgkagh wrote:
               | It's the J.J. Abrams misery box storytelling that ruined
               | most TV shows / movies for me. Turning lazy writing from
               | a vice into a virtue. Many shows now feel like they're
               | actively and intentionally wasting my time, ironically
               | curing me of my desire to watch TV/Movies freeing up time
               | for better uses.
               | 
               | The other lazy writing is the lack of conflict resolution
               | enabling a continuous source of needless conflict, making
               | an entire show out of a situation that could have easily
               | been resolved if there had been a single 'adult' in the
               | room. This has the added problem of normalizing the
               | extreme confrontational or evasive communication styles
               | as opposed to productive engagements. I guess this is
               | what happens when TV raises a generation and then that
               | generation goes on to make their own TV shows, each cycle
               | worse than the previous. As bad as 'engagement'/'rage
               | bait' YouTubers are now I shudder to imagine what the
               | next generation would bring.
        
               | smegger001 wrote:
               | Hollywood has done reboots/remakes forever how many
               | remakes of "a star is born" for example has had three
               | remakes (1954, 1976, 2018) since its first version in
               | 1937. There is nothing new.
        
               | feznyng wrote:
               | You're less likely to remember the not great stuff from
               | bygone eras. Not to say there aren't peaks and valleys
               | through the years, though.
        
             | tux wrote:
             | The Mummy (1999) was the first theater movie for me, it was
             | an epic experience!
        
         | 29athrowaway wrote:
         | Jews have contributed significantly to what is recognizable
         | today as Christmas time.
         | 
         | Many catchy classic Christmas songs were written by Jewish
         | songwriters.
        
           | madnthrow wrote:
           | That's nice!
        
           | petre wrote:
           | Bob Dylan has Jewish heritage as well, although I don't
           | recall him writing any Christmas songs.
        
             | defrost wrote:
             | I don't think he _wrote_ any .. but he did release an
             | entire album of classic christmas songs ..
             | 
             |  _Christmas in the Heart_ (2009) - 34th Studio album by Bob
             | Dylan
             | 
             | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_the_Heart
        
             | asveikau wrote:
             | Didn't he go through a phase in the 80s in which he was
             | super into Christianity?
        
               | petre wrote:
               | Yup, he embraced Christianity, that's why I wrote
               | "heritage".
        
           | midnightchair wrote:
           | Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer was written by a great Jewish
           | man, how cool is that!
           | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._May
           | 
           | Rudolph has an odd nose, and he gets chosen to lead all the
           | other Reindeer! Kids love this song. You teach it to them
           | when they are young and they'll never forget it!
        
             | tux wrote:
             | I'm sure this is just a coincidence than but Rudolph sounds
             | a like Adolf, or in today's concept Russian Adolf. And word
             | red doesn't help, as red was favorite SSSR color. 0_o
        
               | hnuser123456 wrote:
               | They're just Germanic names
        
           | ix101 wrote:
           | That second sentence was absolutely not what the first
           | sentence led me to believe what was coming!
        
           | heresie-dabord wrote:
           | Just say the name of the great jazz artist Mel Torme...
           | 
           | "I saw a spiral pad... Forty minutes later that song was
           | written. I wrote all the music and some of the lyrics."
           | 
           | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Christmas_Song
        
           | ilbeeper wrote:
           | We also contributed the protagonist.
        
             | 29athrowaway wrote:
             | We all know that the protagonist of Christmas in 2024 are
             | Santa Claus and the gifts. It has been massively
             | secularized.
        
           | judah wrote:
           | Jews wrote all the classic Christmas hits including:
           | 
           | - Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer
           | 
           | - Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire
           | 
           | - The New Testament
        
         | Sam6late wrote:
         | I'm Muslim, so all my Christmas's school and college days were
         | kinda the same, 1980s. I would have a real small tree xmass
         | decorated at home and no one would blink about it, then wander
         | over to my christian friends' neighborhood around noon to see
         | what kind of cherry and wine they were serving. This is that
         | neighborhood now
         | https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1031546789002116&set=pcb...
        
           | assimpleaspossi wrote:
           | A Jewish friend of mine would get a small tree and call it
           | his "Moses bush".
        
           | abustamam wrote:
           | I'm Muslim too and I always find it interesting to see how
           | various non-Christian theists observe Christmas. Obviously we
           | don't "celebrate" but I personally don't see anything wrong
           | with partaking in the secular parts of Christmas (and let's
           | be real, in the west, it's pretty much all secular).
           | 
           | My parents felt otherwise when I was growing up, so my
           | siblings and I weren't allowed to do anything Christmas
           | related, but now my wife and I would do seasonal things like
           | watch a live performance of Nutcracker or Pentatonix or TSO.
           | And can't forget about watching the holiday classic movies
           | like Elf and Die Hard!
        
             | Aloha wrote:
             | I will argue that in the US Christmas is in part a secular
             | holiday - given its sorta pagan origins that makes total
             | sense to me. It's a solstice feast basically.
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | The pagan origins thing is a myth, btw--all the various
               | bits which people point to as evidence still date back to
               | a Christian-era Europe and cannot be traced back further.
               | Christianity has been around for a very very long time
               | and has had a lot of time to evolve its own traditions.
               | :)
               | 
               | For example, Christmas trees date back no later than the
               | middle ages:
               | 
               | https://youtube.com/watch?v=m41KXS-LWsY
        
               | sbuk wrote:
               | Nonsense. You're conflating tradition (tree in this case)
               | with festivals and ancient religious rites. See:
               | 
               | - Yule
               | 
               | - Disablot
               | 
               | - Koliada
               | 
               | - Lohri
               | 
               | - Saturnalia
               | 
               | - Yalda Night
               | 
               | - Nardoqan
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | No, I'm not. All of these are, to the extent we know
               | about them at all (which in some cases we don't know
               | much), entirely unlike any Christmas traditions we have
               | today which are claimed to be pagan in origin.
        
               | satvikpendem wrote:
               | How do you know Christmas simply didn't align itself to
               | those holidays themselves, because after all, a year end
               | winter feast is nothing new in history? Or that the
               | traditions we have today may have at once been part of
               | such syncreticization but then died out until the modern
               | day? In other words we don't necessarily have to see such
               | traditions today per se for Christmas to have absorbed
               | them over its time.
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | We don't. But we also don't know that they were, and we
               | don't have enough quality evidence in favor of that
               | hypothesis to justify the confidence with which it is
               | asserted.
               | 
               | In the absence of evidence about the timing being
               | affected by other festivals and in the presence of much
               | evidence that all the actual traditions are far more
               | recent than pagan, I don't believe it's fair to claim
               | Christmas has pagan origins. The absolute best we can do
               | is say that its timing _may_ have been influenced by
               | other, pre-Christian celebrations.
        
               | satvikpendem wrote:
               | I agree but I also would be interested to see any proof
               | for the claims you're talking about with regards to
               | Christmas not having any pagan roots, where are you
               | finding this information or rather, where can I read
               | more?
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | I linked one example--a video on Christmas trees from a
               | religious studies scholar. They have similar content on
               | the date of Christmas, and there are plenty of sources on
               | each other tradition.
               | 
               | Here's another one on Saturnalia from the same scholar:
               | 
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lsctaPJSvo
        
               | satvikpendem wrote:
               | Great, appreciate it. Merry Christmas!
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | Merry Christmas!
        
               | Aloha wrote:
               | Merry Christmas indeed!
        
               | mollerhoj wrote:
               | In Scandinavia languages, xmas is still called Yule. Not
               | sure if having the same name is enough to prove that its
               | a continuation?
        
               | afpx wrote:
               | Yeah, but you can 100% remove Christian theology and
               | still have a fun time.
        
               | Aloha wrote:
               | All of the bits that do make up secular christmas, do
               | have pagan origins, which is more or less my point.
               | 
               | My general take is that every major religion has some
               | sort of solstice related celebration.
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | No, they don't. That's my point--all the bits that make
               | up secular Christmas have Christian origins and have
               | become secularized over time. For every tradition that is
               | commonly cited as having pagan origins, we can trace it
               | back until it becomes entirely unrecognizable and it's
               | still all Christians all the way down.
               | 
               | As near as I can tell the myth of the pagan origins of
               | Christmas has its roots in fundamentalist Christians who
               | wanted to abolish things that aren't contained in the
               | Bible. "Pagan" made a good rhetorical whip at the time,
               | but it's since been taken as a serious approach to
               | history by popular culture.
        
               | EchoReflection wrote:
               | ChatGPT and Grok say Christmas either _does_ or _might_
               | have pagan origins, but not that it definitely _does not
               | have_ pagan origins (yes, I know  "proving negatives"is
               | very difficult+).
               | 
               | ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/share/676c8fd1-b6e0-8005-a86
               | f-d43ac17634...
               | 
               | Grok:
               | https://x.com/i/grok/share/8fQKIFO1WGl3nDVZ6uFaJmPTW
               | 
               | +Grok on proving negatives:
               | https://x.com/i/grok/share/kcHkjqzJ5lx5kMyl4GL0nMuw3
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | LLMs do very poorly at judging the truth of long-term
               | myths. When something has been asserted confidently on
               | the internet over a long enough period of time it becomes
               | baked into the weights, regardless of truth.
               | 
               | I provided a source from a religious studies scholar on
               | Christmas trees specifically (one of the most frequently-
               | cited "pagan" traditions). If you can point me to
               | something with similar provenance I'll read it, but I'm
               | not going to waste time on LLM responses.
        
               | singleshot_ wrote:
               | Ok, but what about asking someone who knows (anything)?
        
               | JumpCrisscross wrote:
               | > _pagan origins thing is a myth, btw_
               | 
               | Saturnalia? (I'm watching your video.)
               | 
               | Given how diversely Christmas is celebrated, it seems
               | wild to conclude that it hasn't been significantly
               | affected by predecessor celebrations.
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | Saturnalia is covered here:
               | 
               | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lsctaPJSvo
        
               | JumpCrisscross wrote:
               | That's the video I began watching.
               | 
               | What is the argument for it not having influenced many
               | modern Christmas practices, including but not limited to
               | the celebration's timing in the West?
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | The fact that there's almost nothing that overlaps with
               | Christmas _besides_ the timing, and that the timing has
               | other plausible explanations.
               | 
               | FWIW, I'm very open to the timing having been shifted to
               | coincide with other festivals, but that's not what most
               | people mean when they say Christmas has pagan _origins_.
               | They 're not saying that Christmas isn't actually the day
               | Jesus was born (I'm totally on board with that idea),
               | they're saying that X, Y, and Z aspects of the Christmas
               | celebration were originally pagan and were adapted for
               | Christianity. I have seen no compelling evidence in favor
               | of that claim about any aspect of Christmas traditions,
               | and I've seen plenty against.
        
               | JumpCrisscross wrote:
               | > _fact that there 's almost nothing that overlaps with
               | Christmas besides the timing_
               | 
               | The drunken revelry?
        
               | lolinder wrote:
               | Given these two explanations for the drunken revelry,
               | 
               | 1. Christmas has its origins in Saturnalia, but the only
               | remaining similarity is the approximate date and the
               | drunkenness.
               | 
               | 2. Humans will happily accept any excuse to get drunk
               | during the longest nights of the year.
               | 
               | I lean towards option 2 as a much simpler and more likely
               | explanation.
        
               | abustamam wrote:
               | I think Christmas is whatever one makes of it. Whether or
               | not one believes it's a Christian holiday or Pagan
               | holiday -- celebrate/observe (or don't) how you like. My
               | wife's family is Catholic and they believe it's a sacred
               | holiday so they celebrate it religiously. Its origins
               | aren't important to that effect. Many religious
               | traditions can probably be traced to secular origins.
               | 
               | Personally for me, it's a good excuse to take time off
               | work and hang out and feast with people who also have
               | time off work. I personally think that (at least in the
               | States) it's basically a Commercial Holiday, in that it
               | just encourages over-consumption, consumerisation.
        
             | sgt wrote:
             | I spoke to a muslim who basically just "gave in" and
             | started doing Christmas at home because the kids wanted it.
             | With the tree and Xmas presents etc even.
        
               | abustamam wrote:
               | Yeah that's probably more common than you might expect.
               | My mom is a teacher at an Islamic school and some of her
               | 1st graders would often say stuff like "we have a
               | Christmas tree at home but my mom told me not to tell
               | anyone," which might give you an idea of how Muslims view
               | Christmas.
               | 
               | It's not something I personally want to do for my family,
               | but I don't think any less of families that do that.
        
           | jedberg wrote:
           | My house looks like that photo now too. I love Christmas
           | music too.
           | 
           | In fact my friend's house is featured in the top link on HN
           | right now. He's helped me with my own show.
           | 
           | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42494512
        
         | Simon_O_Rourke wrote:
         | I'm largely of the "hell is other people" mindset around
         | Christmas, from the overtly fascist elderly relatives to the
         | incomprehensible demands of immediate family. I would love just
         | one Christmas like that!
        
           | andrepd wrote:
           | Indeed. If you have a nice family to be around at Christmas
           | cherish it, it's not so common as it seems!
        
           | BLKNSLVR wrote:
           | I think people tend to fascism as they age, the more they've
           | done and seen and accumulated, the more conservative they get
           | and the more their personal experience of the world must be
           | maintained, protected.
           | 
           | Talk to them about their youth, when they were wild and
           | rebellious. Find out what trouble they caused. Remind them,
           | and it just might crack the encrusted exterior a little bit.
        
             | wholinator2 wrote:
             | See, i believe this is generally trueish for the current
             | moment, has it always been true though? For example, I've
             | already passed the time in which my father _insisted_ I
             | would become conservative and have very much not developed
             | anything like the conservative values of modern America.
             | Though, maybe it's just that conservatism has drastically
             | changed since the 70s. For instance, i certainly have
             | become less insistent on things like UBI and more realistic
             | about single payer Healthcare, but i have not developed
             | disdain for illegal immigrants, the desire to force birth,
             | anti-gay marriage, anti-trans, etc. Were these perquisites
             | to be conservative in the 70s? I'd say im fiscally slightly
             | left, but socially i simply cannot understand the rights
             | positions, it just sounds like hater shit to me
        
             | vixen99 wrote:
             | Are you conflating fascism with conservatism? Stalin was a
             | socialist, a fascist and a conservative in the sense in
             | which the 'c' word indicates 'maintenance of the status
             | quo'. Certainly conservatives like to conserve & we hope
             | that means saving that which is generally considered worth
             | conserving though opinions differ when it comes to the
             | details. Hitler was a national socialist and most
             | definitely a fascist. Unregulated powerful elements in any
             | society will always tend towards a degree of compulsion to
             | maintain their status and we're not short of examples in
             | the West. 'and the more their personal experience of the
             | world must be maintained, protected.' is merely an
             | assertion which you choose to believe. I'm sure examples
             | can be found but also plenty of counter examples. You can't
             | generalize.
        
         | kleiba wrote:
         | _> But my favorite was Christmas 1999. My girlfriend was out of
         | town_
         | 
         | Classic.
        
           | jedberg wrote:
           | FWIW I ended up marrying her. Now we go out of town together.
           | :)
        
             | kleiba wrote:
             | ddi..)
        
         | i_am_a_peasant wrote:
         | I'm Jewish too. But I've always been around people who
         | celebrate Christmas. I don't bother lighting the Menorah for
         | Hanukkah this year since I live alone. I got half a mind to go
         | to the local temple and sit with strangers there but I don't
         | really feel like it. Treating myself to some McDonalds a la
         | uber eats today. I never eat the stuff.
        
           | bowmessage wrote:
           | Please don't poison yourself with that chemical food!
        
             | mathgeek wrote:
             | I hope that Christmas finds you in a wealth of joy and
             | whatever you're looking for that causes such comments. We
             | are all fighting our own battles and this is my sincere
             | hope that you win yours!
        
               | stormfather wrote:
               | Sorry, what? Not wanting someone to poison themselves is
               | an expression of love
        
               | asveikau wrote:
               | One meal won't kill them.
        
               | throwawayq3423 wrote:
               | > The dose makes the poison
        
               | i_am_a_peasant wrote:
               | if it makes it any better I had a plant burger xD, i find
               | it hilarious how everyone fixated on the mcdonalds part
               | of the comment
        
               | asveikau wrote:
               | I mean I share the sentiment against low quality food and
               | its effect on health, as probably everybody who eats
               | there is also probably aware of too, but again, this is
               | not the time or the place...
        
             | samatman wrote:
             | All food is chemical food. That's why we eat it, for the
             | chemical energy.
        
             | BrandoElFollito wrote:
             | I am sure that nutrition was the key part of his message.
             | Well spotted!
        
         | romanobro56 wrote:
         | If you started 30 minutes late you wouldn't miss all the other
         | movies just the middle one
        
         | AznHisoka wrote:
         | OK, i am ignorant, but why do most Jewish people eat Chinese
         | food on Christmas? Is there something I am missing?
        
           | fumplethumb wrote:
           | Most other places are closed. Chinese restaurants are
           | typically open on Christmas!
        
           | chuckwnelson wrote:
           | My understanding is it's the only other places that are open
           | on Christmas.
        
           | pitaj wrote:
           | I believe it's because Chinese restaurants historically are
           | the only ones open since they don't celebrate Christmas.
        
           | tasty_freeze wrote:
           | Chinese restaurants are often owned by first or second
           | generation Chinese immigrants who (1) aren't Christian and
           | (2) haven't been in the US long enough to adopt local
           | customs. Since restaurants often are marginally profitable,
           | they tend to stay open on Christmas because there is profit
           | to be made, especially since most of the competition is
           | closed that day.
           | 
           | If you are Jewish, Christmas obviously isn't nearly as
           | important to your (often nominally) Christian neighbors and
           | there isn't much to do on Christmas day. If you decide you
           | don't want to cook, Chinese restaurants are way over-
           | represented in the choice of open restaurants. Once you do
           | that for a couple years it becomes its own tradition.
           | 
           | I grew up in a Catholic household but my family, after years
           | of making Turkey and spending hours cooking, for the past few
           | years has switched to Chinese food on Christmas. I don't miss
           | the turkey and gravy.
        
             | throwup238 wrote:
             | Chinese restaurants will also often have whole roast duck
             | which is an easy way to get the dinner centerpiece if
             | you're cooking the rest. My family doesn't eat out but we
             | always get a whole duck on Christmas and Thanksgiving (it's
             | a 20 year old tradition at this point).
        
           | woodruffw wrote:
           | Others have mentioned that it's because Chinese places are
           | open, but another reason is that Chinese food is (or was) not
           | _obviously_ treif, meaning that there is (or was) a degree of
           | plausible deniability around eating it.
           | 
           | Source: family apocrypha.
        
             | emchammer wrote:
             | I was not aware that the error bars between kashrut and
             | marit ayin are that wide. I figured that it was because of
             | the intersection of Jewish middle class culture and Chinese
             | culture starting in the 1930s, and because Chinese
             | restaurants generally do not serve dairy products.
        
               | woodruffw wrote:
               | I think those are factors as well!
               | 
               | This is all apocrypha, so take it with a grain of salt.
               | But my understanding is that this would be a case where
               | marit ayin would not be a significant concern, since the
               | Chinese dishes in question were not visually identifiable
               | as e.g. pork.
               | 
               | Or another framing: if you were a semi-secular family
               | (like mine) that tried to keep a semi-kosher home, it
               | would be easier to eat a dish that contained finely
               | minced pork or shellfish or similar. American Chinese
               | food fits those parameters while also being available on
               | Christmas, etc.
        
             | ilbeeper wrote:
             | I was under the impression that Chinese food is all about
             | pork. Something like that Modi's rant:
             | https://m.facebook.com/reel/1021462526286349
        
               | woodruffw wrote:
               | There's also a lot of vegetarian/non-pork-but-fleishig
               | Chinese food. But the point was more that Chinese food
               | that _isn 't_ kosher isn't obviously so, especially 60-70
               | years ago when it was less commonplace.
        
           | nozzlegear wrote:
           | My Christmas Eve tradition with my wife for the last 14 years
           | has been to eat as much Chinese food as we possibly can at
           | our favorite Chinese place. Then we drive around town looking
           | at Christmas lights while listening to classic Christmas
           | music. Neither of us are religious, but we were both raised
           | Christian.
           | 
           | I came into this thread thinking that I don't really have any
           | great Christmas memories. My family was poor growing up, my
           | parents shouldn't have been together for as long as they
           | tried to make it work, and my father had a lot of issues with
           | drugs and alcohol. But now that I think about it, these
           | Christmas Eve memories with my wife are my favorite.
        
           | james_marks wrote:
           | It's not just Jewish people; it's anyone who doesn't want to
           | cook, and Chinese restaurants are historically the only thing
           | open.
        
         | memhole wrote:
         | This is the top comment I hope for on every Christmas. Some of
         | us draw snowmen instead of Santas. We all get a day to enjoy in
         | our own way though. Sounds like a great time.
        
           | duckmysick wrote:
           | My upbringing was pretty secular but we still did plenty of
           | snow angels.
        
       | htk wrote:
       | Merry Christmas, hackers!
        
       | benreesman wrote:
       | Merry Christmas HN!
       | 
       | I've spent a lot of holidays alone over the last few years, and
       | the HN community was a joy and a comfort every time.
       | 
       | I have the pleasure of spending holidays with family this year,
       | and I'm trying to answer everyone's questions about computer
       | stuff, I invariably wind up referring to the great comments on HN
       | as the best resource around.
       | 
       | I look forward to spending another year with all of you, and hope
       | you all have a wonderful holiday.
        
       | ashton314 wrote:
       | I've always loved Christmas--I'm blessed that it's all good
       | memories. But having a little kid the past few years is a whole
       | new level of magic.
       | 
       | Merry Christmas everyone. :)
        
       | unboxedvariable wrote:
       | Merry Christmas HN!
       | 
       | Hope everyone was able to slow down the pace a little, connect a
       | little more with people we may have not caught up with recently
       | and send/receive positive vibes. And happy new year.
        
       | mukti wrote:
       | Some of my favorite memories are the times I got video game
       | systems. Most notibly the Sega Genesis and z scale trains I got
       | in '94/'95/'96 (not sure the exact year, I was very young) and
       | GameBoy Color in '99. I got a Xbox in '01, Xbox 360 in '05; but
       | they didn't quite have the same "magic" that they had when I was
       | young. Also as a young kid, watching the Rankin Bass stop motion
       | movies on the days leading up to Christmas. Then talking with my
       | brother and sister while we tried (failed) to sleep on Christmas
       | Eve, watching more and more obscure Christmas cartoons and
       | whatever else would come on TV late on Christmas Eve
       | night/Christmas morning.
       | 
       | The best non-Christmas morning memories were just random times I
       | was at family Christmas parties or gatherings. Seeing aunts,
       | uncles, and cousins dancing talking having fun. As a kid, we used
       | to have the parties at family homes, which was always fun and
       | super memorable. Later we moved to a hall as the family got
       | bigger and cousins started to bring their children, in laws, and
       | friends. I can't really point out any particular memory as good;
       | just all the time spent with family, not necessarily caring about
       | what else was going on in the world at the time.
        
         | Dracophoenix wrote:
         | > watching more and more obscure Christmas cartoons and
         | whatever else would come on TV late on Christmas Eve
         | night/Christmas morning.
         | 
         | Which ones if you're able to recall?
        
           | mukti wrote:
           | There were quite a few I'll never remember the name of, but
           | there were a lot of different renditions of A Christmas Carol
           | with unknown characters on Cartoon Network or some other kids
           | channel. I definitely remember Christmas Comes to Pac-
           | Land[1], 'Twas the Night Before Christmas[2], A Jetson
           | Christmas Carol[3], and one of the Flitstone Christmas
           | episodes where they were acting in a play.
           | 
           | [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499003/ [2]
           | https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208654/ [3]
           | https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0290683/
        
         | MarkMarine wrote:
         | My grandmother broke the Christmas gift rules with my parents
         | and got my brother and I a NES, Tetris, duck hunt with the gun,
         | and I believe the Olympics with the power mat. Christmas
         | windfall I'll never forget, seeing my parents faces drop as we
         | opened all those games and just ignored every other present.
         | Grandma had a nack for tweaking my mom any way she could, one
         | of the meanest people I've ever met in my life but this year
         | our interests aligned.
         | 
         | My mom was enthralled by Tetris, better at the game than anyone
         | in the house by a good 10 levels, and basically impossible to
         | depose from the controller. I think it softened the blow with
         | Grandma.
        
         | a_t48 wrote:
         | Gameboy Color in 99, too. Pokemon Gold all the way through the
         | Y2K New Years was nice.
        
       | laurieg wrote:
       | I remember being given a large K'nex construction set as a toy at
       | Christmas. I can still feel the visceral excitement of opening it
       | up and looking at all the pieces, imagine what kind of things I'd
       | build. I think the ferris wheel was my favorite.
       | 
       | A few years ago I was a bit down abd feeling like I'd never
       | experience that kind of excitement and joy again. I've come to
       | realize that now I'm older it's my job to create that same joy in
       | others.
       | 
       | I hope everyone is having a wonderful day and can find a way to
       | create just a little moment of joy for someone else. Merry
       | Christmas!
        
         | brian-armstrong wrote:
         | K'nex! They exist! I had forgotten all about them. I also (now)
         | fondly remember the K'nex Christmas.
        
       | cperciva wrote:
       | When I was in Oxford, almost all the students went home for
       | Christmas -- for the domestic students it was easy to travel, and
       | most of the international students were wealthy enough that the
       | cost didn't matter to them. I came from a middle class background
       | and flying back to Canada would have been a significant cost
       | (especially since my scholarship came with a living allowance
       | which was only paid while I was in the UK) so I stayed in Oxford.
       | 
       | My third year in college, we had a new Warden (head of college)
       | and while he, like all the other academic staff, generally
       | vacated the college over Christmas, he felt obliged to offer
       | Christmas hospitality.
       | 
       | So he sent out an email to the entire student population: "Any
       | students in college over Christmas are welcome to come to the
       | Warden's Lodge for afternoon tea at 3pm on Christmas Day." -- and
       | as I was the only student in college over the vacation, I had a
       | lovely afternoon talking to the Warden and his wife.
       | 
       | Graduate students generally don't have much interaction with
       | college academic life -- undergrads usually meet with the Warden
       | every term, but grad students are left to the academic
       | departments to supervise -- so it was a rare and precious
       | opportunity.
        
         | jimbokun wrote:
         | Sounds like a very Harry at Hogwarts kind of Christmas!
        
         | consf wrote:
         | Afternoon tea on Christmas Day in Oxford with thoughtful
         | conversation sounds like something out of a novel
        
           | cperciva wrote:
           | It does, doesn't it? This might say something about English
           | authors -- a lot of them went to Oxford or other places
           | heavily inspired by Oxford.
        
             | satvikpendem wrote:
             | Seems like that commenter's comments are all AI, albeit
             | with an atypical prompt.
        
               | cperciva wrote:
               | Huh, I wondered why it was flagged. Seems like a sensible
               | comment regardless of the author, though.
        
         | delibaltas wrote:
         | I have seen movies starting like this.
        
         | pid-1 wrote:
         | Interesting, I had a similar experience as an exchange student
         | in Britain.
        
       | radar1310 wrote:
       | Merry Christmas to all and to all a nice tech gift.
        
       | brokencipher wrote:
       | Merry Christmas
        
       | onecommentman wrote:
       | I'll skip the well-meaning attempt at personal engagement (too
       | old and cranky for that) and just wish everyone Merry Christmas
       | (or whatever religious/winter solstice variants span your
       | spiritual function space at this time of year) and the happiest
       | of New Years.
        
         | heresie-dabord wrote:
         | Happy Solstice! It's all about the axial tilt of this pale blue
         | dot where we all need more peace, kindness, and compassion.
        
       | illwrks wrote:
       | Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates it, if you're playing
       | Santa for little ones I hope it was a success ;)
       | 
       | To everyone else, I hope you have a nice festive break!
       | 
       | One of my fondest Christmas memories was when my brother and I
       | got a PlayStation 1 for Christmas, the excitement and
       | entertainment was amazing, we had graduated from Gameboys to 3D
       | graphics. My brother is very competitive so it was the best to
       | win against him in the car racing game (Tommi Makinen Rally). I
       | can't remember what other game we got but I do remember he and I
       | playing Command on Conquer years later and that background music
       | is burned into my mind :D
       | 
       | Years later with my own kid I have a greater appreciation for the
       | expense and planning our parents went through to find one for us.
        
       | glitchc wrote:
       | We get together as a family and make a lasagna. And before you
       | ask, we're not Italian. It's just a fun tradition, and leads to
       | some amazing memories.
        
       | ricardo81 wrote:
       | Feeding an unsuspecting and perhaps inebriated auntie dog
       | biscuits that to be fair, looked like regular chocolate buttons.
        
       | mikewarot wrote:
       | I always enjoyed the family get togethers over at my Father in
       | law's house. There was always a festive spirit and _plenty_ of
       | really tasty food.
        
         | sowbug wrote:
         | I didn't like my stepfather, but his family did Christmas
         | right. We'd all go to his parents' house, and it seemed like
         | there were a hundred family members there. Incredible food,
         | tamales, a big pot of beans and fresh corn tortillas, carnitas.
         | The grandfather did the Santa Claus tradition, handing out the
         | presents in full costume and character, after which my 50 step-
         | cousins and I would absolutely destroy whatever toys we had
         | just received.
         | 
         | When bedtime arrived, of course there weren't enough beds for
         | everyone, so each of us kids would grab couch cushions, find a
         | nook somewhere between two pieces of furniture, and sleep like
         | the dead on the 1970s plush carpet.
         | 
         | My mom wised up a few years later and divorced him, instantly
         | improving the other 364 days of the year. But I missed those
         | crazy Christmases.
        
       | vallard wrote:
       | I was a missionary in Montevideo Uruguay never having been away
       | from home for Christmas. There were fireworks all night long and
       | we were just outside with all the kids going to different peoples
       | houses and just having a blast. Was one night I felt like
       | everyone was nice to us and just accepted us.
        
       | recursivedoubts wrote:
       | My first Christmas vigil mass.
       | 
       | Merry Christmas everyone.
        
       | ChumpGPT wrote:
       | I had an awesome uncle when we were kids (70's). He was a mover
       | and shaker, a real-life hustler, the kind of guy who carried
       | around a stack of 100s with a rubber band around them. He wore a
       | long fur coat with a black hat. He looked like Cramer in the
       | episode of Seinfeld where he had the Amazing Technicolor
       | Dreamcoat. Every Christmas Eve after dinner he would take me and
       | my brother out to the movies. Good Times....Good Times....
        
       | hooverd wrote:
       | Listening to David Sedaris' Six to Eight Black Men. It's an
       | amazing bit.
        
         | block_dagger wrote:
         | One of his best.
        
       | booleandilemma wrote:
       | Merry Christmas HN!
        
       | tmsh wrote:
       | * approx age 6-7: unwrapping a Nintendo entertainment system
       | (part-time English teacher single-parent mom but investment
       | banker uncle)
       | 
       | * a few years later: same thing with SNES
       | 
       | * middle school: coming back from a small ski trip and starting
       | to read John Grisham novels.
       | 
       | * college: staying over one break in western mass. Biking to
       | Hadley mall where they had an Amy's cheese pizza and bringing it
       | back to the German house that had an oven.
       | 
       | * mid 20s: watching whatever odd PBS documentary while hanging
       | out with my mom.
       | 
       | * early 30s: my aunt's lasagna and extended family meals we took
       | for granted at the time.
       | 
       | * late 30s: good news after a fertility journey.
       | 
       | * early 40s (today): my wife and I using our decade of experience
       | navigating edge cases when filling prescriptions to help my MIL
       | fill an important heart medication so she didn't have to go to
       | the ER for Christmas.
        
       | neofrommatrix wrote:
       | Indian (Hindu) here who went to a Catholic convent back home. My
       | favorite memory is of a reenactment of Jesus' birth on stage by a
       | bunch of 10th graders (my class) and instantly falling for the
       | girl that played Mary. I'm now married to her and we have a
       | toddler. Merry Christmas!
        
         | SwiftyBug wrote:
         | Ok, you gotta tell us that you named your baby Jesus, please.
        
           | neofrommatrix wrote:
           | Would have been a Hindu Jesus, if we had named him that.
           | Missed that chance!
        
         | tasty_freeze wrote:
         | or in your case, Mary Christmas.
        
           | 99catmaster wrote:
           | Lmao
        
         | gweinberg wrote:
         | Merry marry Mary Christmas!
        
         | jll29 wrote:
         | How romantic! Merry Christmas indeed.
        
       | blindriver wrote:
       | If you are visiting SF, Christmas is the very best time to
       | sightsee, especially in the morning. Every major location has
       | plenty of free parking and no one is there. I have lived here for
       | decades but Christmas is my favorite time to bring visitors
       | because they can see everything that is normally hard to see
       | because of parking, too many tourists etc.
        
         | 29athrowaway wrote:
         | The worst time to visit is when Karl shows up, the bridges are
         | not visible and the cold is uncomfortable.
         | 
         | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_fog
        
       | jakebasile wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
       | 
       | I had rented Final Fantasy 7 from Blockbuster so many times that
       | my brother decided to get it for me for Christmas. Even though I
       | never really snooped for presents he decided to mess with my head
       | and wrapped it in two large bath towels and put it in an even
       | larger box. This giant package below the tree for me, and it
       | sounded like cloth - I figured it must've been a jacket or
       | something until I opened it.
       | 
       | Another time I was looking for something (not presents) in my
       | parent's room, and happened to find a very poorly hidden
       | Playstation 2 from my father. The waiting until Christmas part
       | was fitting punishment for accidental snooping.
       | 
       | Some of the finest memories are just a jumble of similar
       | situations though. Christmas Eve was the night my entire local
       | family would gather at my maternal grandmother's house, and we'd
       | all have a big meal and sit around chatting afterwards.
       | 
       | Then there's that one Christmas Eve when I asked my now-wife to
       | marry me. I knew she'd say yes but there's always that little bit
       | of fear about it. I wanted to ask when everyone I loved would be
       | around.
       | 
       | Time sure flies. Both my father and my maternal grandmother have
       | passed since the last time we all celebrated Christmas together.
        
         | brian-armstrong wrote:
         | The accidental gift finding is so funny. My dad got me a bike
         | for Christmas one year. Of course it's really hard to hide a
         | bicycle, and he put it alongside the side of our house in a
         | part of the yard nobody ever went in. For whatever reason, I
         | happened to be playing in that part of the yard and found it. I
         | asked him why there was a bike stored out in our yard because I
         | was not a very clever kid. In hindsight it's very funny to
         | imagine his perspective on it.
        
           | jakebasile wrote:
           | I ended up telling him later in life and he just started
           | laughing. He had no idea I'd found it!
        
         | matheusmoreira wrote:
         | Spending Christmas Eve with family is the best. Really cherish
         | those moments. The pace of everyday life is so fast, it's easy
         | to forget what's really important.
         | 
         | Merry Christmas.
        
           | jakebasile wrote:
           | Yes, they're the feeling of Christmas I remember most fondly.
        
           | throw-qqqqq wrote:
           | Truer words were never spoken!
           | 
           | I see my family too rarely because of the everyday hustle. I
           | love the holidays for the slow pace, the long lunches and
           | dinners. Talking about nothing and everything.
        
         | kaycebasques wrote:
         | > Some of the finest memories are just a jumble of similar
         | situations though.
         | 
         | This is how I feel about Xmas, thanks for putting it in words.
        
         | joemazerino wrote:
         | 2001 was definitely the FF7 year. Played all 3 discs during the
         | winter break.
        
       | deanmoriarty wrote:
       | The year I got the original Gameboy, came with Tetris and
       | Gargoyle's Quest. Must have been 1991 or so, was probably the
       | happiest Christmas of my life. Incredible how I still vividly
       | remember that morning, more than 30 years later. I opened the
       | gifts and then we spent the day at my cousins' eating and
       | playing, I was the youngest among my cousins and it was so cool
       | hanging out with them, slightly older kids, we stayed there from
       | morning til midnight. What I wouldn't do to live that day again,
       | perhaps paying more attention to the adult conversations
       | happening at the dinner table which I completely ignored as a
       | young kid back then.
       | 
       | My parents have been so good and kind to me, we were never poor
       | but money was always tight with my dad being a small business
       | owner with some ups and many downs, and yet they never failed to
       | provide memorable gifts when I was a kid. I was very happy back
       | then, but just as an adult I came to appreciate the sacrifices
       | they must have made for me.
        
       | delibaltas wrote:
       | Christmas of 1981 in Athens, Greece. I was 15. Father had died 3
       | years ago from heart attack at 42. His last words to my mother:
       | "Educate the kids".
       | 
       | She did her best, given that my grandfather was old fashioned and
       | had stopped her from going to school after she became twelve,
       | although she was among the smartest in her class.
       | 
       | That Christmas she had bought me the brand new then Sinclair ZX81
       | personal computer. We were visiting the grandparents in a small
       | village near Athens.
       | 
       | I spend the night by the fireplace with a small portable TV and
       | the machine, typing in games published in the UK PC magazines of
       | that time and occasionally watching the Chrstmas shows. Debugging
       | my typos was the way I learned how programming works.
       | 
       | Nothing really interesting here, but I am remembering that night
       | again and again so when I saw the prompt I felt I should share.
       | Merry Christmas everyone.
        
         | kaonwarb wrote:
         | A beautiful memory. I felt like I was sitting next to you,
         | watching over your shoulder. Thank you for sharing.
        
         | monero-xmr wrote:
         | 1998 - my father had abandoned the family - I received a TI83
         | and the instruction manual. Spent literally a full week
         | teaching myself TI83 Basic from that manual. It had everything
         | necessary - variables, loops, functions. And I did it all hand-
         | typing it in on the calculator keyboard!
        
         | throwaway2037 wrote:
         | What a great story, the perfect kind of HN post. Did Sinclair
         | advertise in Greek... Or did your Grandma speak enough English
         | to figure out what to buy?
        
           | delibaltas wrote:
           | I had seen advertisments in greek from the Greek importers of
           | the brand. I had asked my mother for it and she delivered.
           | 
           | Since you asked for the greek market I can share one more
           | memory. About a year later, 1982, I wanted to upgrade to
           | Texas Instruments TI-99/4A so I tried to see a machine up
           | close going to the local representative. I ended up at the
           | "company's HQ" which was a small residence appartment in the
           | fifth floor of a building.
           | 
           | I found the door open so I entered a room full with boxes
           | thrown around randomely. After waiting alone for an awkward
           | period of 5-10 minutes, the owner of the company himself
           | emerges from the bathroom with a wet face and kind of
           | surprised to see me. He listened to what I wanted. "It's
           | somewhere there, go and have a look" it's all what he said.
           | He couldn't care less.
           | 
           | 13 years later I had my own small company and reselling PC
           | and equimpent was part of the job. The man with the wet face
           | was one of the biggest suppliers in Greece, since besides
           | Texas Instruments he moved on to be the representative of
           | Intel and Microsoft and reseller of many others and the
           | company became on of the biggest in Greece.
           | 
           | Maybe his mentality ("there it is, go and have a look") never
           | changed much though, because a couple decades later the
           | company went bankrupt.
        
           | utopcell wrote:
           | There definitely were ads for spectrums in Greece back then
           | [1] but if I were to guess they were coming from local
           | distributors rather than Sinclair.
           | 
           | [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/greece/s/N8djTsI1wC
        
         | nopakos wrote:
         | Heartwarming story! Fellow Greek here. Also made my family take
         | the Amstrad CPC and monitor to an 8 hours trip to the village.
        
         | ddgflorida wrote:
         | I can identify with having a GREAT Christmas associated with a
         | new computer. In my case, the same year, 1981, and a Radio
         | Shack Color Computer, 16K Ram.
        
         | kapitar wrote:
         | My dad got us an Atari 130 XE for Christmas back in the 80s.
         | 
         | On Christmas day, it ran a program which asked for our names
         | (my sister or I) and then printed out a personalised message
         | and small game.
         | 
         | Only years later did I really think about him setting up this
         | program days or weeks before hand, learning to code it all in
         | Atari Basic, for that big reveal on the day.
         | 
         | He always had menial blue collar jobs because of his working
         | class Irish Catholic background, and he died before I really
         | got into computers/dev later on in life, so I never really got
         | to ask him about it.
         | 
         | Enjoy the day everyone and hopefully build up some nice family
         | memories!
        
           | p0w3n3d wrote:
           | I remember my whole family playing golf on Atari 65XE -
           | everyone: me, brother, dad and mom.
        
             | p0w3n3d wrote:
             | Game's name was Leader Board Tournament
        
         | duckmysick wrote:
         | That is such an awesome story! Immediate favorite for me. Can
         | relate to typing in the code published in the gaming magazines.
         | Mine was with memory-editing the game values, albeit not on
         | Christmas.
        
       | rawgabbit wrote:
       | May you all find Peace and comfort this Christmas. I had a
       | somewhat traumatic childhood but Christmas Eve was the one day I
       | could count on to find solace. Despite the dysfunction of family,
       | attending Christmas Mass and in later years watching the
       | televised Christmas Eve mass from the Vatican was always a
       | calming experience. God is love. We are his children, brothers
       | and sisters. We may not understand the mystery of life. But we
       | have faith in God whose mercy endures forever.
        
         | nozzlegear wrote:
         | Peace and comfort to you as well!
        
       | uncomplexity_ wrote:
       | lots of alcohol, cigarettes, and karaoke's
       | 
       | time is fleeting gents
        
       | RobRivera wrote:
       | Ho ho ho Its christmas time (5 tabs open)
        
       | ethagnawl wrote:
       | Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all.
       | 
       | I haven't used Ruby in about five years but I'm still looking
       | forward to reading the release notes for 3.4(?) over coffee in
       | the morning, as I've done every Christmas for about 15 years.
        
       | kurisufag wrote:
       | just listening to the radio.
        
       | Spooky23 wrote:
       | When my son was three, we setup a particularly beautiful tree and
       | our first big light display on our front porch (the tree was just
       | inside the big bay window)
       | 
       | My wife and I were dead tired, and my son woke us up in a state
       | of complete excitement. She headed downstairs to "check for
       | elves" and prepare a few things, with me and kiddo at the top of
       | the stairs.
       | 
       | When the elves were confirmed to have vacated, I went down,
       | followed by my son. We somehow got him to wait for me to sit on
       | the couch and then... he rounded the corner. My son started
       | singing "deck the halls" The look of pure joy and innocence and
       | excitement is a memory I will treasure forever.
       | 
       | We've since tragically lost my wife to cancer, and although he's
       | much older now, we maintain most of the little traditions and
       | either still believe or pretend to each other to believe a few
       | special aspects of our celebration. Christmas was my wife's joy
       | and we revere it in a unique way.
        
         | jamiek88 wrote:
         | That was beautiful, thank you.
        
       | tsumnia wrote:
       | The year of the leopard print futon.
       | 
       | I thought I was the coolest kid in the world because my bed could
       | fold up into a couch. Funny enough, I still sleep great on
       | futons. These days if I lie down on a futon, go ahead and assume
       | I'm about to take an hour long nap.
        
       | zoklet-enjoyer wrote:
       | Christmas is also my birthday. On my 30th birthday I ignored all
       | of my friends and family and played Crash Bandicoot on PS4 all
       | day. It was great.
        
         | nozzlegear wrote:
         | Merry Christmas and happy birthday!
        
           | zoklet-enjoyer wrote:
           | Thank you! :) Merry Christmas
        
         | samatman wrote:
         | I have a cousin who shares your birthday. Her name is Merry
         | Noel.
         | 
         | Hope you're having a merry Noel as well. ^_^
        
           | LorenDB wrote:
           | Sounds like a tragedeigh.
           | 
           | https://www.reddit.com/r/tragedeigh/
        
           | zoklet-enjoyer wrote:
           | Thank you and merry Christmas!
           | 
           | That's a great name. Do you know if Christmas was her mom's
           | expected due date? Kind of wondering if they had the name
           | planned before she was born or if they came up with it
           | because she happened to come on xmas
        
       | codebaobab wrote:
       | Merry Christmas, HN!
        
       | katamari-damacy wrote:
       | Merry Xmas!
       | 
       | I have to ask though, given America is a multicultural country:
       | how come we don't see celebrations on HN of the other two
       | Abrahamic religions? I mean they have their own religious
       | holidays and celebrations, and one actually coincides with Xmas
       | this year.
       | 
       | Why the waspy vibe on HN?
        
         | jondwillis wrote:
         | There's still a lot more Christian than Muslim or Jewish people
         | in the USA/YC-prone countries, as well as people that celebrate
         | it in some way for cultural reasons. So, demographics and it
         | isn't actually about religion at all for a lot of people.
        
           | tempestn wrote:
           | Yep, exactly. Very few of my friends are religious at all,
           | but we all celebrate Christmas. Not as a religious holiday,
           | but as a time that by tradition we spend time and share gifts
           | and love with friends and family.
        
             | vlunkr wrote:
             | This is the beautiful thing about Christmas. It's a buildup
             | of hundreds of years of traditions if you trace it back to
             | Saturnalia. It's a mix of ancient and modern customs,
             | folklore from many cultures, and infinite family or
             | personal traditions. The Christian angle is certainly
             | there, but you can leave it out entirely and still have a
             | full experience.
        
         | olalonde wrote:
         | Christmas is much more widely celebrated. Pretty much everyone
         | in my family is atheist and we've always celebrated it. I'm in
         | China right now and many of my Chinese friends are doing
         | something for Christmas and wishing me "Merry Christmas",
         | despite none of them being Christian. There are Christmas trees
         | and decorations everywhere. It has become more of a cultural
         | celebration than a religious one for many people around the
         | world.
        
         | disambiguation wrote:
         | Anyone can make a thread, maybe ask them why they choose not
         | to?
        
         | michaelsshaw wrote:
         | Christmas is not about Jesus at all, it's the American red-and-
         | green snowy holiday with family, Santa, gifts and drinking.
         | It's not perceived as a religious holiday by most of us. If you
         | want those other threads, then perhaps you should personally
         | create them. I'm sure nobody here will be upset with that.
         | 
         | As an aside, the letter X a literal form of Jesus's name.
        
           | tyrd12io wrote:
           | It's not perceived as a religious holiday by most of us - of
           | course not when majority of them are christians. For rest of
           | us its a religious holiday. by not acknowledging it as
           | religious event, you are just ignoring people of other
           | faiths.
        
         | burgerzzz wrote:
         | Do you post similar comments on other religious holidays?
        
         | let_me_post_0 wrote:
         | Christianity is uniquely welcoming in a way that neither Islam
         | nor Judaism are. Judaism is exclusive and you're not invited.
         | Islam is more similiar to Christianity but in many ways
         | mutually exclusive with it, so again not really inviting for us
         | in the western hemisphere with a Christian background.
         | 
         | In any case it is not up to people with a Christian background
         | to decide to get their noses in the traditions of other
         | cultures. That would be culturally insensitive. You should have
         | posed this question to the Muslims and the Jews of America.
        
           | nraf wrote:
           | Following your logic, Christianity would be not be inviting
           | to those in Muslim-majority countries.
        
           | dcuthbertson wrote:
           | > Judaism is exclusive and you're not invited.
           | 
           | That's not strictly true. I suspect those that follow
           | Orthodox and Ultra Orthodox Judaism are exclusive. However,
           | those that follow Reform Judaism and the Conservative
           | Movement support conversion to Judaism, so you are invited.
        
           | jyounker wrote:
           | > Christianity is uniquely welcoming in a way that neither
           | Islam nor Judaism are.
           | 
           | That's not been my experience at all.
        
       | drmpeg wrote:
       | For me, it was Christmas Eve 1968 and the reading of Genesis from
       | Apollo 8. My parents had just bought their first color TV.
        
       | matheusmoreira wrote:
       | My favorite memories are from family gatherings. Christmas is a
       | magical time that can really bring the family together. We used
       | to have them a lot when I was a kid but they just kind of stopped
       | as I got older. As though the magic was gone.
       | 
       | This year I got to experience this again and it made me so happy.
       | Seeing my family together and happy, conflicts and troubles
       | forgotten. It was a joy I hadn't felt in such a long time, I
       | didn't know it was still possible.
       | 
       | Merry Christmas, everyone.
        
       | niag wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
       | 
       | This year, I'm flying solo. My wife and daughter are visiting
       | family in India, and my mum's spending the holidays with my
       | younger brother and his family. With the house unusually quiet,
       | I've decided to knock the rust off my frontend skills and catch
       | up with all the new tooling.
       | 
       | Not a bad way to spend a quiet Christmas, really. Hope everyone's
       | having a lovely one, whether with family or a bit of peaceful
       | coding!
        
       | pmarreck wrote:
       | The Christmas our family got our first computer, a Mac 128k,
       | stands out.
       | 
       | Also, the Christmas I got the Atari 2600.
        
       | 29athrowaway wrote:
       | Creating the illusion that Santa exists and left gifts behind.
        
       | dirtybirdnj wrote:
       | Growing up in NJ my family got together at my uncles place for
       | Christmas, which also happens to be my cousin's birthday. I'm not
       | sure if this was directly on the holiday but it WAS winter /
       | snowy so we're gonna roll with it.
       | 
       | My dad had brought over a self-propelled walk behind snowblower
       | to help my uncle clear a sidewalk in front of the house. My
       | cousin and I were doing as kids did in the 90s, running around in
       | the snow having fun when we made a discovery. A squirrel had not
       | survived the cold and was frozen solid.
       | 
       | My dad and uncle had gone inside for some reason and left the
       | snowblower unattended. We decided that it would be really funny
       | if we put the squirrel in the snowblower chute, so that when they
       | turned it on it would shoot out and we'd all have a good laugh.
       | 
       | Except that isn't what happened. The frozen squirrel blocked the
       | auger mechanism from working correctly and after some very
       | unpleasant noises some kind of belt or other part broke. The
       | squirrel was not hilariously propelled across the sky as
       | anticipated / desired.
       | 
       | My dad and uncle were PISSED, I am sure there was some fallout
       | but it's gotta be one of my all time favorite holiday / winter
       | shenanigans I've been involved with.
       | 
       | On a sad note, this is my first Christmas alone after going
       | through divorce earlier this year. I hope you get to spend time
       | with your loved ones, and I encourage you to remind them how you
       | feel about them. You never know how much time you have left, so
       | make the most of it. You have less than you think don't wait.
       | Tell them now.
        
       | unethical_ban wrote:
       | N64, Sega Genesis, Huffy bikes. Snow once, in the early 2000s in
       | Houston.
       | 
       | It's a Wonderful Life each year.
       | 
       | More, but I'm tired, and it's Christmas! Merry Christmas all.
       | 
       | I remember real for trees as a kidm I haven't had one for five or
       | more years now.
       | 
       | Not having the internet on Christmas. All is quiet.
       | 
       | Turn off news and social media on Christmas! Just respond to well
       | wishes, that's fine.
        
       | johnxie wrote:
       | Merry Christmas and happy holidays everyone! My dad's birthday is
       | on Christmas, so it was always a double celebration. Growing up
       | in Queens, we'd sometimes go to Atlantic City, taking a Greyhound
       | or driving once we had a car. We'd head to Bally's, enjoy the
       | Christmas vibes, and spend hours at the buffet.
       | 
       | Those trips were always fun. This year, he's in a rehab hospital
       | on another continent after a stroke, but we're all staying
       | hopeful to celebrate together next year.
        
       | reynaldi wrote:
       | Merry Christmas, Hacker News! Hope you're staying cozy and
       | enjoying time with loved ones.
        
       | gedy wrote:
       | Christmas 1992 was in basic military training and for most people
       | was a nice dinner and a break from the yelling. Our flight 083
       | was the unlucky ones picked for kitchen and cleaning duty...
       | Cleaning old food out of a floor drain by hand on Christmas night
       | was gross and humbling but has made the Christmases since all the
       | more pleasant.
        
       | silisili wrote:
       | My favorite memory as a kid was waking up in the middle of the
       | night and seeing a large object covered in the living room, and
       | thinking it was elves and I had to tip toe back to bed because my
       | parents said they'd run off if they saw me. It was a Go-Kart,
       | wrapped in a bed sheet. Great gift.
       | 
       | My favorite memory as an adult was filling the kid's stocking
       | with nothing but bananas one year. She was 6. At first she was
       | pretend excited because she likes bananas, but by the end she was
       | digging, pulling them out one by one and saying 'aw man another
       | banana' each time. She then asked us why Santa brought her so
       | many bananas, and I had to pretend not to know through my tears
       | of laughter.
       | 
       | She gets great gifts, just having a bit of fun. We put a banana
       | on top of her stocking each year since, but she's old enough now
       | to roll her eyes and sigh.
        
       | submeta wrote:
       | Yesterday at the Christmas Vespers in Germany. A full church. The
       | Christmas story is being told--about Jesus, about the Romans,
       | about the darkness in the stable, and how the Christ child is
       | born in Bethlehem. But no word about an ongoing Genocide in
       | Palestine (the Pope says it's a genocide, all human rights orgs
       | say it's genocide). About Israel bombing Palestinians into
       | pieces. Sick world.
        
         | Abdumaa wrote:
         | Yeah, it feels deeply troubling to see this contrast. I wonder
         | who the romans are today... The oppression affects all
         | palestinians (not just muslims but also christians). Anyone
         | staying silent about this suffering should feel ashamed.
        
       | jamieplex wrote:
       | Merry Christmas! Just remembering playing with our new Commodore
       | 64, Christmas Day 1982. Good memories.
        
       | egeozcan wrote:
       | Merry Christmas! Mutlu Noeller! Frohe Weihnachten!
       | 
       | I was born in Istanbul, a sprawling, chaotic city that's a
       | fascinating blend of thousands of cultures. Christmas was always
       | a thing there, even under an Islamist regime. As a non-believer,
       | I never cared much for religious holidays, but I did enjoy the
       | cozy decorations and sipping Gluhwein (mulled wine). Beyond that,
       | it didn't mean much to me.
       | 
       | Now I live in Germany. My first Christmas here, back in 2009, was
       | quite different. I was alone in a rented room provided by my
       | employer, watching TV shows I couldn't understand on a tiny
       | screen, just trying to pass the time. My laptop wasn't working
       | (the charging cable was broken), and I was bored out of my mind.
       | 
       | Around 6 PM, there was a knock on the door. It was my employer,
       | heading to a hippie-style gathering in the forest to celebrate
       | Christmas. He figured I might be alone and decided to come in
       | person since I hadn't answered my phone.
       | 
       | Of course, I said yes, and it turned out to be one of the most
       | heartwarming experiences of my life. The group was incredibly
       | kind, and even though I was the only foreigner, they went out of
       | their way to make me feel included (switching to English when
       | talking to each other, for example). The setting was magical:
       | small fires inside carved logs, nature-themed decorations, and
       | delicious food I'd never tasted before. I was so happy.
       | 
       | That day, my love for Germany grew a hundredfold.
        
         | Alex-Programs wrote:
         | This is sweet. Thanks for sharing.
        
         | flawn wrote:
         | I wonder which Islamist Regime you are referring to - the
         | current one? :D
        
         | bloomingeek wrote:
         | Wonderful!
        
         | jll29 wrote:
         | Thanks for sharing! And kudos to a boss who is also a friend -
         | there are so many people far away from their loved ones, and
         | therefore lonely, on what should be the happiest day of the
         | year for all - so everyone, please remember who you could
         | invite to share the enjoyment as described here.
        
       | freeone3000 wrote:
       | The last christmas I was able to spend with my dad's side of the
       | family. My nieces and nephews gathered around the tree -
       | absolutely spoiled rotten by their parents and their second
       | cousin who had a tech salary and no responsibilities. Their
       | _faces_ when they were able to open the gifts of the sort I wish
       | I could have had -- a robotics kit, a goo-making set, a diamond
       | painting, a nintendo switch game. Being able to give them cool
       | things that I hope they continued to enjoy for months to come.
       | The feeling of sitting around a bonfire made of present-trash,
       | beer in hand, talking about nothing. It 's how I feel Christmas
       | should be.
        
       | samanthasu wrote:
       | I am Sam. And I wanna say 2024 is definitely a challenging year
       | to me as I was laid off and a lot of changes in this year. My fav
       | memory from Xmas would be the year of 2019, celebrating with my
       | bff in winter wonderland, drinking, laughing, and we were really
       | happy since we were still students with no worries at all. Wish
       | time could go back
        
         | joisig wrote:
         | Hi Sam! It will get better. Merry Xmas from Iceland :)
        
         | MarcusE1W wrote:
         | When you are down and in a hole, one small good thing is that
         | it goes up in every direction. Merry Christmas Sam and a much
         | better 2025.
        
         | egeozcan wrote:
         | Hi Sam! I usually just upvote comments on posts like these, but
         | I wanted to tell you that things will get better. You'll have
         | many more moments in the future that will warm your heart on
         | the tougher days.
        
         | mau013 wrote:
         | Hi Sam!! Weather your storm. It will pass. Trust that you will
         | find your way out of this. Merry Xmas from Spain :D
        
         | throw-qqqqq wrote:
         | Merry Christmas and best wishes from Denmark.
         | 
         | Your favorite memory warms my heart.
         | 
         | I hope 2025 brings you more luck than 2024 did.
        
         | pewpew_ wrote:
         | Sam, things always work themselves out for the better. You will
         | be fine, keep moving forward.
         | 
         | Merry Christmas!
        
         | jamestdsmith wrote:
         | This too shall pass. Life goes on and up. Many times I've felt
         | that something bad happened to me. But a few years later I
         | realise it was a blessing in disguise
         | 
         | Merry Christmas Sam
        
       | grumblepeet wrote:
       | The few golden years when the kids were little, we'd all sit
       | around the TV and play console games and when a hard bit came
       | along, like a puzzle or a jump or a big boss with loads of guns,
       | I'd be handed the controls to do the difficult bits. I got to be
       | the family hero. We had great fun. A few years later, they all
       | had way faster reaction times, and their own PC's and games, and
       | played them in their rooms. But for a few glorious Christmas' we
       | all came together and it was great. I miss those times, but on
       | the other hand I helped them build their own PC systems, and set
       | them off on the own paths. I helped them grow.
        
       | jadenPete wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
       | 
       | Up until I was about 10 years old, my family would drive to my
       | grandparents' house every year to celebrate Christmas Eve with my
       | extended family. We'd track Santa using the NORAD Santa tracker
       | (which, by coincidence, reports Santa being in San Francisco as I
       | type this) and open presents from my grandparents.
       | 
       | One year, I got a Kindle Fire, which was the first computing
       | device I called my own. Because I didn't have my own computer and
       | the family computer was usually being used, I did most of my
       | early programming on the Kindle by downloading an app called AIDE
       | that allowed me to compile Android apps on Android (of which the
       | Kindle ran a modified version) and sideload them. By the time
       | next Christmas had rolled around, I'd built my first complete
       | Android application--a graphing calculator complete with support
       | for basic algebraic expressions, trigonometric functions, and a
       | page that explained what every supported mathematical function
       | did and how it worked. I was so excited to show my cousins and
       | grandparents.
        
       | russellbeattie wrote:
       | _" Why is the top bar of HN red? Oh yeah... It's Christmas."_
       | 
       | - Me, pretty much every year.
       | 
       | Got my TRS-80 Color Computer 2 in 1981. Much of my entire life
       | was shaped by that computer.
        
       | remarkEon wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
       | 
       | I don't actually have this memory, since I was 2 and a half years
       | old.
       | 
       | My parents wanted to go back to South Dakota and have a proper
       | "family" Christmas, with all of the cousins and all of the
       | babies. Well, Christmas was had and then the temp dropped to
       | -30degF. My parents scrambled to get me into the car and drove
       | overnight from South Dakota back to Minneapolis to try and escape
       | the storm.
        
       | antirez wrote:
       | Writing dump1090 in my parent's house :D Waiting for the only
       | plane crossing the center of the Sicily during xmas time haha. In
       | general, hacking here in Campobello di Licata at day, then at
       | night finding all my friends, drinking with them till 4AM, then
       | looping again: code -> gym -> drinking, all this in the
       | background of staying with family.
        
         | ablation wrote:
         | You wrote dump1090? Wow. Thanks very much. You've brought me a
         | lot of joy as a hobby. And merry Christmas.
        
           | antirez wrote:
           | So happy to hear that! Thank you :)
        
             | blankx32 wrote:
             | agree, great tool, thanks
        
       | bigodbiel wrote:
       | Merry Christmas All
        
       | ashitlerferad wrote:
       | As a JW I never celebrated either. It's strange because my wife
       | is Lutheran and she's probably the most excited adult about
       | Christmas I've ever met. Bakes the Ham, turkey, Christmas PJs,
       | Love Actually, Home Alones and gifts Christmas morning.
       | 
       | I love seeing her happy as much as I love food. So it works out.
       | I don't get involved beyond what I would do on a regular day
       | which is be happy for her, have good conversation and banter and
       | eat a lot of food.
       | 
       | People will say well if you are not active, what's the big deal?
       | Well, It's like how parents might give advice when you're younger
       | and some of it you outgrow or choose not to follow as you become
       | an adult, but certain lessons stick with you for life because
       | they feel fundamentally true. They become part of who you are.
       | For me, not celebrating Christmas is like this. Even though I'm
       | not actively practicing as a Jehovah's Witness, that teaching
       | still aligns with my values and feels like the right thing to
       | continue avoiding it. It's also a sign of respect and a nod to my
       | beliefs.
        
         | bibelo wrote:
         | Hi bro
        
         | snozolli wrote:
         | _and a nod to my beliefs._
         | 
         | You could have just said that you're still a believer. Not
         | being 'active' doesn't mean anything if you're still a
         | believer.
         | 
         | I don't know why you'd refuse to embrace the joy of Christmas
         | in your situation. Self-denial and suffering aren't noble
         | virtues, contrary to what religion loves to tell people. It's
         | okay to enjoy things.
        
       | MarcusE1W wrote:
       | Merry Christmas everyone.
       | 
       | Every year it reminds me how I eventually became an IT
       | professional.
       | 
       | My parents took us children to the village restaurant before
       | Christmas. Must have been 1983. Then we were asked what we wish
       | for Christmas and I had not really thought about that, yet. Some
       | of my friends have been talking about a computer. I had no idea
       | what exactly that meant or what to use it for but it sounded
       | cool. Computer. Also I knew that the brand was Commodore.
       | 
       | So when asked what I want for Christmas I said "A Commodore
       | computer".
       | 
       | The next day it dawned on me that it might be a good idea to find
       | out what my Christmas wish actually was. In a toy catalog I found
       | a Commodore C64 computer and decided that must be my Christmas
       | whish. I started collecting the limited info that was publicly
       | availabe about computer.
       | 
       | In a proper Christmas story I would get my C64 and live happily
       | ever after. But my parents were not sure if such an expensive
       | present should be bought.
       | 
       | My mother found a book about the basics of Computers though and I
       | got that later for birthday. Now I really wanted one. I sometimes
       | took a 30 min. Bus ride to the neighbour university town and
       | there was a department store with a computer department and you
       | were allowed to try them. So all you had to do is use the book to
       | prepare some BASIC programme at home in paper. Take the bus, find
       | a free computer in the store, key the programme in, hope that it
       | works on that version of BASIC and you had a programme.
       | 
       | 2 years later my parents seemed convinced that I really wanted a
       | computer and got me a C128. Much better BASIC for structured
       | programming. And from then I happily lived ever after. Or so.
        
         | yodsanklai wrote:
         | Was going to share a very similar story, I got my first
         | computers for Christmas. We got first a C64 which got me into
         | "programming", but I think it was the Amiga which made me the
         | happiest. It was such an upgrade compared to the C64.
         | 
         | Whenever I feel stress, overworked, or frustrated with
         | colleagues as an IT professional, I remember what got me into
         | programming and all the fun I had with these computers.
        
           | MarcusE1W wrote:
           | The Amiga was my second computer too. And I have spend all my
           | money on the M2 Modula 2 compiler.
           | 
           | Then I could do computer school homework in M2 on my Amiga
           | and just had to translate it to Turbo Pascal in school to
           | submit it :-)
        
       | michaelsbradley wrote:
       | Merry Christmas
       | 
       | Christus natus est
       | 
       | O Khristos gennietai
       | 
       | Khristos razhdaetsia
       | 
       | hmshykh nvld
       | 
       | bn llh ywld lywm
        
       | codetrotter wrote:
       | One of my favorite memories is Christmas year 2000, when I was
       | with my father and my grandparents on his side, and my father had
       | bought a PlayStation 2 for me. Me and him stayed up long playing
       | Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy.
       | 
       | We were a bit scared to even stop playing, because we didn't have
       | any memory card to save progress on at first. But we left the
       | console powered on over night and resumed playing the next day,
       | and did the same for the next few days and then my father went
       | and bought a memory card so we could save the progress.
       | 
       | Good times :)
        
       | FlyingSnake wrote:
       | Merry Christmas
       | 
       | Feliz Natal
       | 
       | naataalcyaa haardik shubhecchaa!
       | 
       | As a kid born on X'mas eve, Christmas has been special to me,
       | even in the dusty provincial non-Christian town of Central India.
       | 
       | After moving to Germany, and having a kid, I appreciate Christmas
       | (Weihnachtsferien) even more nowadays. What a wonderful season of
       | festivity
       | 
       | May this festival season bring happiness and joy to you and your
       | loved ones.
        
       | noufalibrahim wrote:
       | I don't celebrate it but I do have a memory.
       | 
       | It was at my first job and first time away from home. I was
       | single and so was a colleague from work.
       | 
       | There was no one in the office that night. So we installed unreal
       | tournament, played "mistress of Christmas" out loud, ordered in
       | some food from a nearby restaurant and played a lan game till
       | past midnight. Then we went home.
        
       | germandiago wrote:
       | Merry Christmas. Feliz Navidad. Bon Nadal.
       | 
       | Back at the end of eighties and beginning nineties I used to go
       | to my uncle and aunt (my mom's immediately old sister) home and I
       | would spend time with my cousins, from which three of them were
       | orphans. Fortunately the family could take care of everyone.
       | 
       | I would spend time with one of my orphan cousins (we are just one
       | year apart) and my older sister playing some games like hide and
       | seek around the house, I was hardly 7-8 yo.
       | 
       | My uncle and aunt are not among us anymore but at least I keep
       | nice memories.
       | 
       | This was in Spain. Currently I am in Asia.
        
       | xenocratus wrote:
       | For some reason a lot of my memories from early days are lost
       | (despite not being that far back), but I do fondly remember us
       | visiting some neighbours, playing Monopoly with the kids of the
       | household (good friends at the time, that I've since long lost
       | contact with) until late, then getting back home to find presents
       | under the tree. I've now forgotten what the presents were, but
       | vividly remember my mum leaving to "get something from the flat"
       | as we were playing :)
       | 
       | Craciun fericit! I can only hope for more peace in the world for
       | the next year.
        
       | t43562 wrote:
       | Merry Christmas everyone! Thanks for this great website where it
       | is possible to have intellectual discussions no matter what odd
       | and lonely place one might be living in. :-)
       | 
       | I have had to recreate Christmas for my family on my own - my
       | wife is Turkish and although she is not highly religious
       | (especially about food!) it was not a "thing" for her for most of
       | her life.
       | 
       | When I was living in Istanbul with her, Christmas was just
       | another working day although I noticed a somewhat wistful
       | attitude - people who sort of wished to join in but felt they
       | were on the outside. The occasional Christmas tree. It was very
       | odd for me. I couldn't surmount those odds and I also had never
       | had to be the initiator. When my mum died years and years ago,
       | everything died.
       | 
       | Back in the UK it's easier and I have a daughter so I HAVE to
       | make it happen. I'm not that good at it but today my daughter,
       | without telling me, filled my christmas stocking :-) So the bug
       | has caught on. :-)
       | 
       | Now it's time to have breakfast and open presents from under the
       | tree.
       | 
       | I wish a very joyful day to everyone. I risk controversy by
       | saying that Christmas was not originally a religious festival and
       | whatever religion you are, you're not excluded from enjoying it.
       | It was a "middle-of-winter" party and I think it was to keep
       | Northern Europeans spirits up at the darkest time of the year.
       | That it has turned into "good will to all men" is great but it
       | isn't owned by any church.
        
       | sim7c00 wrote:
       | I dont like christmas atall. no good memories. i tried to escape
       | it by marrying a muslim but now she wants to celebrate too. god i
       | wish today was over already and i just woke up. merry christmas
       | everyone <3
        
       | maz1b wrote:
       | Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all celebrating!
        
       | aszantu wrote:
       | Just realized, i only have one. Eating with a stranger at xmas
       | eve in the netherlands. We were both avoiding our families
       | because we both hate to be around fam around xmas.
        
       | omnee wrote:
       | So many beautiful stories. Merry Christmas Everyone!
        
       | herbst wrote:
       | Spending my Christmas in a caravan somewhere way south of Spain,
       | in a quiet remote corner with only my favourite 2 people
       | (including my dog). No presents, no family dinners. Definitely
       | the best Christmas for a long while.
        
       | wyclif wrote:
       | For me it was Christmas 1977 when me and my little brother got an
       | Atari 2600 console. We spent almost the entire day (except for
       | taking a break for meals) playing all the variations of Combat.
       | 
       | Later, in 1980, I bought Adventure with my paper route money and
       | I had hours of fun playing that and trying to figure it out. When
       | I finally found the Warren Robinette-created easter egg, I was
       | ecstatic. Unfortunately, even though I was a huge fan of
       | Adventure, it is the type of action-adventure game that when you
       | solve the quest you quickly lose interest.
       | 
       | 1980 was probably peak Atari 2600. By 1982, with the release of
       | E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, the game was so terrible and rushed
       | to market so quickly and was so obviously shovelware that I moved
       | on from the platorm.
       | 
       | I miss those days though. More than anything else the Atari 2600
       | was what got me into learning BASIC a few years later on the
       | TRS-80 and the IBM PC.
        
         | JoeAltmaier wrote:
         | Funny you should mention ET. It was indeed shovelware, Howard's
         | group was challenged to get a movie-tie-in game out in 12 weeks
         | and he volunteered. Worked like a slave to get something that
         | looked like a game, had at least one play mechanic, titles and
         | animation! All with a tiny processor with negligible memory
         | that had to turn the electron beam on and off in timing loops.
         | Still proud that he got anything at all that worked. Proud of
         | the notoriety as well, Howard is like that!
         | 
         | Now he's a family counselor, a good one too. I see him a couple
         | times a month at Movie Night, another old friend hosts those
         | and we get good attendance even though we haven't worked
         | together for forty years.
         | 
         | Merry Christmas!
        
       | JoeAltmaier wrote:
       | I remember my Hindu-Jewish Christmas. I was working at a startup
       | in the midwest. We hired lots of graduated students, including
       | one from Israel and one from Bangalore India. They were curious
       | about Christmas so we invited them to come to ours!
       | 
       | Two young kids under 10, a new house in the country and perfect
       | weather. They arrived, and since they had heard about the gift-
       | giving part they brought gifts! For the family, way nicer than
       | they had to for a hostess gift but exclamations all around and
       | thanks and we use that giant red baking pot to this day.
       | 
       | The Indian lad was just married and she was so curious and funny
       | and happy to be with family - they had found America to be so
       | quiet and empty! To be in a full house again with kids and noise
       | and decorations and ceremony - she was ecstatic.
       | 
       | We introduced all the foods (my wife was a champ and had come up
       | with things everybody could eat! A Christmas miracle in itself)
       | and the trappings (lights and trees and drinks and songs) and had
       | a lovely loud silly evening.
       | 
       | Later, each of those co-worker mentioned independently that
       | though they'd lived in America for years, that was the very first
       | time they'd been invited into an American's home. They were so
       | grateful. Even today, thirty years later, I can call either of
       | those guys and be greeted like an old Uncle.
       | 
       | So yeah, I remember that one from time to time and smile.
        
       | michaelhoney wrote:
       | I'm six years old: we're travelling and our family is in London
       | staying in a hotel. I watch Speed Racer on television on
       | Christmas Eve, and they jump over a gap and something clicks and
       | I "get" momentum. That night the anticipation is almost
       | unbearable and I pretend to sleep as my parents set out presents.
       | In the morning we get up and the best present I get is a junior
       | science encyclopaedia. That day the weather is terrible, so we
       | stay inside and read and we order chicken sandwiches from room
       | service.
        
       | shannifin wrote:
       | Christmas 1996, I was 11. We finally got a modern computer with
       | Windows 95, a CD-ROM drive, speakers, Oregon Trail 2... It was
       | magical! The only time I ever wept with joy over a Christmas
       | present.
        
       | frereubu wrote:
       | Christmas in 1982/3 in the UK, I was praying desperately for a ZX
       | Spectrum so I could play Manic Miner like my nephews (who, due to
       | a generational slip were more like my cousins) and was genuinely
       | crushed when I opened my present to find that it was a BBC Micro
       | Model B. The horror! Although Elite did make up for quite a bit
       | of that, the game scene on the BBC was so much worse (or at least
       | it felt so) and I ended up copying code by hand for games from
       | magazines, which I'm pretty sure was what my parents intended.
       | Fast forward to now, and I'm running a successful web agency,
       | having worked my way through various internet-related jobs in
       | interesting organisations like the BBC, universities and others.
       | So a belated and slightly begrudging thanks to my dad and mum for
       | their foresight.
        
       | sangeeth96 wrote:
       | Merry Christmas y'all!
        
       | andyjohnson0 wrote:
       | I was born in the late 60s so none of my childhood Christmas
       | memories involve digital technology. But a memory that stands out
       | was the year that I got a telescope for Christmas.
       | 
       | I was maybe about ten. It was fairly average refractor on a
       | wooden tripod but, growing up in an environment where things like
       | that weren't the norm, I didn't understand that at the time.
       | 
       | On Christmas day my family, my aunts and uncles and cousins,
       | would all cram themselves into my grandparent's small council
       | house for Christmas dinner. Then the kids would play with their
       | toys and try not to get stood on by the slighly tipsy adults. Too
       | many people in too small a space, but I have happy memories.
       | 
       | When it got dark, that time, I took my new scope out into my
       | grandparent's small front garden to look at the moon and try
       | (unsuccessfully as I remember) to locate a planet. It was very
       | cold, and people wandering past kept asking me what I was doing.
       | I could hear everyone indoors talking and laughing. Eventually it
       | started to snow very lightly, so I packed up and stood watching
       | the snow for a while and then went back indoors.
       | 
       | That was amost fifty years ago, but I remember how my universe
       | suddenly got hugely bigger that day. And the snowflakes coming
       | down in the dark.
       | 
       | I passed the telescope on to five year old friend a few years
       | ago. I don't know what she makes of it though: she can get images
       | from the Hubble and James Webb on her tablet, if she wants.
       | 
       | Merry Christmas everyone.
        
       | 4dregress wrote:
       | Merry Xmas, I hope you all have a great day!
        
       | sneak wrote:
       | 1991. I received a Super Nintendo on Christmas morning at age 7.
       | Within minutes I was playing the single bundled game on a large
       | Trinitron CRT in the living room.
       | 
       | It's more than 30 years later and I still regard SMW as the best
       | video game ever made.
        
       | taatparya wrote:
       | At our company, we celebrated Christmas today exchanging gifts
       | despite not having a single Christian person in our staff.
       | 
       | One of the junior introverted female developer was coaxed into
       | being the Santa for gift distribution. She really shines as Santa
       | and thoroughly enjoyed it. What's more, she even coaxed others to
       | dance while accepting the gift and everybody has a good time.
       | 
       | My most memorable so far.
        
       | p0w3n3d wrote:
       | My best/funniest Christmas memory time was when there was a huge
       | cold outside, so the ice froze some antenna cables together. Not
       | sure what was the physics behind it, but the result was I got a
       | cable television in our TV even despite we didn't pay for it. I
       | could watch many foreign channels, except for cartoon network
       | which was on the same channel as another channel from
       | terrestrial, hence these were overlaying together and not
       | possible to watch. Later when the freezing cold faded away, we
       | bought the cable and I could better learn English from watching
       | Cartoon Network and as a result now I can work as a software
       | engineer
        
       | monkeydust wrote:
       | Getting a Nintendo NES with Super Mario 3, was probably 10 :-p
        
       | Wasserpuncher wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
        
       | zulban wrote:
       | 1992 my family just got a VCR but hardly had any tapes. For some
       | reason my sister and brother were obsessed with Home Alone and as
       | the youngest and a toddler, I played along with the excitement.
       | My dad set up "some new movie" to play in our basement but said
       | he couldn't get Home Alone, saying it cost too much, sorry. We
       | eagerly watched the title intro which in retrospect, was
       | obviously Home Alone. Once the oldest sibling finally read "Home
       | Alone" we all completely lost our minds.
       | 
       | We even have this whole thing on video.
        
       | DoctorOetker wrote:
       | Is there going to be a 2024 Donald Knuth Christmas Lecture?
        
       | dgan wrote:
       | When i arrived in France, i couldn't help but notice that people
       | celebrate New Year ar 25 December instead of 1st January.
       | eventually, after learning the language, I understood that it is
       | actually another thing altogether!
        
       | devilbunny wrote:
       | Merry Christmas indeed. Even if you're not Christian. The holiday
       | has become larger than the religion, and I think that is
       | something Jesus would have liked. His point was always love.
        
       | SchwKatze wrote:
       | Merry Christmas! I love this community, hope you all enjoy this
       | time
        
       | borski wrote:
       | Happy Hanukkah as well! It starts tonight. :)
        
       | tasty_freeze wrote:
       | I grew up in a family with eight kids. Mom was stay at home and
       | Dad did well, but with eight kids each individual kid received a
       | few mostly modest presents.
       | 
       | When I was in college and home for Thanksgiving, my folks invited
       | everyone out to dinner. After ordering, my dad would often
       | introduce a topic of discussion that we'd bat around until the
       | food came. That year he said: if you didn't need to worry about
       | money or success, what other career path might you find
       | interesting. Without much thought I said, I'd like to play
       | electric bass, due to the fact that when I listened to albums, I
       | was really mostly following the bass. I don't even recall what my
       | other siblings said.
       | 
       | On Christmas day there were the usual gifts: socks and underwear,
       | a couple of new shirts, and a book or two. But after that was all
       | done, my dad said: tomorrow when the music store is open, let's
       | go buy a bass. It was a $200 hondo (a fender p-bass knockoff) and
       | a 15 watt Crate amp. What an extravagant gift! I'm 60 now and
       | still playing, though never professionally. :-)
        
         | bradleyy wrote:
         | I also play electric bass, and love this story. The real
         | question is: do you still have the Hondo?
        
           | tasty_freeze wrote:
           | No, the hondo is long gone. After college, when I had a job,
           | I bought a much better bass. I don't have any recollection
           | what I did with the hondo. It would have been the mid to late
           | 80s, so there was no craigslist to sell it.
           | 
           | That hondo had action so high I needed to attach a parachute
           | to each note I played.
        
         | zoomablemind wrote:
         | > ...That year he said: if you didn't need to worry about money
         | or success, what other career path might you find interesting.
         | 
         | Such a wise way to both elicit ideas and encourage
         | introspection. Very inspiring!
        
       | fumeux_fume wrote:
       | My fondest memories of Christmas are from childhood when we'd
       | spend Christmas eve and day at my grandparents house in Pasadena
       | with my aunts and uncles and their families. The kids usually
       | shared a few rooms and in the morning our stockings would be hung
       | on the doorknobs so we could entertain ourselves silly putty,
       | highlights magazines, and slinkies while the adults slept in.
       | However, the Christmas gift I'll never forget was my first DVD
       | player. It was a discounted Proscan model, but still cost a
       | bundle back when VHS was the dominant format. While fiddling with
       | the menu for The Matrix, I stumbled upon the commentary track
       | which I had no understanding of. I finally pieced together that I
       | was listening to the directors talk about the movie as they
       | watched it, as if we were in the same room together. This kinda
       | blew my mind and set me down a path at a young age of
       | appreciation for movies as an art form and dialogue between
       | artist and viewer rather than just passive entertainment.
        
       | darepublic wrote:
       | Waking up at 5 in the morning and playing shareware computer
       | games on our IBM 286 with my sister. My dad discovering this and
       | joining us.
        
       | maxcruer wrote:
       | Too bad I had to be in the hospital :(
        
       | Unbeliever69 wrote:
       | The one thing that really stands out about Christmas growing up
       | was how amazing my dad was at giving gifts that sparked my
       | curiosity about the world. Instead of focusing on toys and games,
       | he often chose books (scientific) and kits (RadioShack). While
       | today you can easily find gifts that combine fun and learning,
       | growing up in the '70s and '80s, it was usually one or the other.
       | That's not to say I didn't enjoy a good toy or game--they could
       | also stimulate imagination and creativity--but it was the books
       | and kits that truly shaped who I would become.
       | 
       | I also had an aunt who loved giving magazine subscriptions.
       | Thanks to her, I had long-running subscriptions to Discover,
       | Scientific American, Omni, and later BYTE. And, of course, the
       | most important one of all: Dungeon!
        
       | hypertexthero wrote:
       | The Snowman, 1982, with original introduction:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjMNtEKHURU
        
       | corytheboyd wrote:
       | A simple one!
       | 
       | One year it was just my parents and I for Christmas. None of us
       | are that big on elaborate gift giving, we just want to see each
       | other. Unknowingly we had all purchased some form of booze for
       | one another, so we spent the evening chatting with libations by
       | the fire, it was wonderful :)
        
       | nickpsecurity wrote:
       | Merry Christmas, Hacker News!
       | 
       | Today is a day made for celebrating the birth of Christ. Later, a
       | tradition of giving gifts and spending time with family. I pray
       | God blesses you in each of these things.
       | 
       | If anyone here is unfamiliar with what Christmas is, this page
       | has links explaining the birth of Christ and why it's one of
       | history's greatest events:
       | 
       | https://www.desiringgod.org/topics/the-birth-of-christ
        
         | octopoc wrote:
         | Actually gift giving at the winter solstice far predates Jesus.
         | For instance the tradition of Santa coming down the chimney
         | comes from a time in Britain when there was a terrible
         | snowstorm and the poor people were starving. The Druids had
         | food to give them but couldn't get in the doors because the
         | snow was so deep. So they sent the food down the chimneys!
         | 
         | Having said that, merry Christmas!!
        
       | gosub100 wrote:
       | Christmas '98, my mom went to the local computer tech and bought
       | me the 166mhz _MMX_ CPU. I was stoked (but admittedly a little
       | bit frustrated it wasn 't the 233mhz). As silly as this seems,
       | the black lacquered laminate (instead of the gray ceramic on my
       | 133mhz or 100mhz or whatever I had) made me feel like I went from
       | a nova to a corvette. I fondly remember getting excited about
       | that kind of stuff. Also that same year, my first intro to 3D,
       | playing motocross madness with my highschool friend on my (or
       | probably his) new voodoo 3DFX card. It was magical.
        
         | Tepix wrote:
         | Indeed, seeing the 3dfx in action for the first time was super
         | magical.
        
       | jonpurdy wrote:
       | Growing up celebrating Xmas in Canada resulted in me dreading the
       | month before with Xmas music and decorations everywhere. As an
       | adult I love that I can mostly choose not to celebrate (aside
       | from parents and inlaws). Even living in Korea I avoided the
       | celebrations but couldn't avoid the decorations.
       | 
       | But I do really enjoy one single thing about the holidays: the
       | VLC icon getting a Santa hat a couple of weeks before Dec 25.
       | 
       | VLC has been doing this as long as I can remember (earlier than
       | 2005?) and it's literally the one thing I look forward to for the
       | holidays.
        
       | jjtheblunt wrote:
       | I'm secular and Xmas for us meant unbounded time in the snow
       | after possibly fun toys when little, as the Santa thing we knew
       | as Santa far more than anything religious.
        
       | kaycebasques wrote:
       | Merry Xmas everyone.
       | 
       | PS1 has got to be my most memorable gift. That loading screen is
       | burned into the OLED of my subconscious.
       | 
       | I like how jakebasile put it though:
       | 
       | > Some of the finest memories are just a jumble of similar
       | situations though.
       | 
       | Archetypical Xmas AM is me, my brother, and my mom. It was always
       | a huge exercise of my willpower to wait for my brother (5 years
       | older, lifelong night owl) to wake up. My single mom would always
       | lavish us in gifts. We were relatively poor in our area; Xmas was
       | the day she made us feel as wealthy as kings. I later learned
       | that she sometimes racked up huge credit card debt to give us
       | this experience. I haven't done an Xmas tree for myself in years
       | but when our baby comes I will for sure revive that magical
       | experience for her. In the late AM we would drive over to my
       | aunt/uncle/cousins and enjoy bagels, talk about the gifts we got,
       | and watch movies. Everyone stayed in cozy pajamas all day, I
       | think that's a small but important part of why this day often
       | felt different.
       | 
       | In later years Xmas Eve is now my fondest jumble of memories.
       | Growing up, we did not have people at the house. I resented my
       | mom's antisociality a bit. But then one year, the family member
       | who usually hosted Xmas Eve said they were tired of it. Quite the
       | surprise to everyone when my mom said she would host the next
       | party! She's now been hosting it for 10+ years and it's always a
       | good time every year. I'm very proud of her for coming out of her
       | shell and being the sturdy/reliable anchor that brings the family
       | together every year.
        
       | blowsand wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
        
       | parentheses wrote:
       | First "proper" Christmas in the US (7 years after moving here)
       | where I got Quake III Arena. It sparked a life long love of
       | programming that has yet to subside.
       | 
       | As a non Christian immigrant, my parents did their best to
       | understand and embrace the "good parts" of Christmas. We went
       | from just having dinner to now exchanging presents and spending
       | time together as a family. My wife is from the US and grew up
       | with Christmas being a very big deal (and lavish with presents).
       | She took it to the next level once we got together. Now, with
       | kids, it's taken on a new life.
       | 
       | So, I guess my real answer: Christmas just gets better every
       | year. I hope it continues to for me and does for all of you!
       | 
       | Good health, wealth and tidings to all of you - kindred spirits
       | from all around the world!
        
       | snozolli wrote:
       | Sometime between maybe '79 and '83, there was a particularly
       | memorable Christmas. We drove across the state to my
       | grandparents' huge ranch home (I visited the new owners as an
       | adult, turns out it was a normal-sized house). Waking up on
       | Christmas morning with all my cousins, aunts, and uncles there,
       | anxiously waiting while Grandpa built a fire in the fireplace,
       | absolutely dying to finally open presents. Some adult walked in
       | dressed as Santa to hand out presents and I never did figure out
       | who it was.
        
       | ddingus wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
       | 
       | Thank all of you for being here and for the most part, being
       | real.
       | 
       | We are a fundamentally good crowd.
       | 
       | Be nice to one another please. It counts in this world. A world
       | where guilty pleasures like this one we share are seemingly on
       | the way out, back filled with soulless places nobody really cares
       | about.
        
       | rvba wrote:
       | Building the plastic christmas tree.. with my cat.
       | 
       | First taking out the branches from the top shelves of the closet.
       | What was supervised by her - every branch had to be checked and
       | smelled. After the branches were remowed she would laudly meow to
       | be put on the shelf. For inspection.
       | 
       | Then she would demand to be taken down (or would jump out with a
       | loud thud) and lie down on a branches.
       | 
       | Finally after some discussion the christmas tree could be build.
       | She would supervise the whole process, look at the lamps, inspect
       | the decorations with paws and lie observing them. Happy meows and
       | loud purrs all the time.
       | 
       | Then she would lie near the christmass tree in triumph.
       | 
       | I miss my cat. She was very friendly and talkative
        
         | doormatt wrote:
         | I'm sorry for your loss - cats can be the most loving creatures
         | imaginable.
        
       | sebastian_z wrote:
       | A joyous Christmas to everyone. Calling on Mary is voluntary [1].
       | 
       | [1] https://genius.com/Aimee-mann-calling-on-mary-lyrics.
        
       | soulofmischief wrote:
       | I don't have many good Christmas memories, so I would probably
       | say my favorite is when I received Pokemon Gold and a Gameboy
       | Color at age 5. That game opened up a lot for me and had a huge
       | influence on my life, philosophy and career.
       | 
       | Merry Christmas, everyone. Hug 'em if you got 'em.
        
       | joemazerino wrote:
       | Having the extended family over and the boys would all be playing
       | outside until the street lights came on, and then inside to play
       | whatever game came out. Clay fighter, mortal kombat, donkey kong
       | country etc.
       | 
       | My family would pull straws to see which man would dress up as
       | Santa clause and go door to door on my street to greet kids and
       | give the adults some baileys or whiskey.
       | 
       | Great times. Merry Christmas.
        
       | formerlurker wrote:
       | Merry Christmas to you too!
        
       | jll29 wrote:
       | A very happy Christmas memory was from when I was sick with
       | measles as a kid (perhaps aged 5?), wrapped in many layers of
       | blankets on my grandparents' sofa, watching the Christmas tree
       | and listening to everyone's conversation and Christmas songs on
       | TV. Despite being slightly feverish and covered with red dots all
       | over, I was the most happy child.
       | 
       | The most _nerdy_ Christmas was when I returned to my mom's house
       | as a student (probably Chris Rea playing when I rode home on the
       | train.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDt3u2Ev1cI ), and the
       | only kit within reach there was an old Atari ST 520+ with a copy
       | of Berkeley Yacc (Bison) on 3.5" floppy disk next to it. I
       | happened to have an (unrelated) machine learning paper in my
       | backpack, so I dedided to reimplement the paper in Yacc on this
       | ancient machine, which was most gratifying (no man pages, no Web,
       | no StackExchange, ...).
        
       | thr0waway001 wrote:
       | MERRY CHRISTMAS YO!
        
       | prydt wrote:
       | Merry Christmas!
        
       | WarOnPrivacy wrote:
       | My (14yrs older) brother stared a business on the back of our
       | rural property and later build a home on acreage next door. The
       | biz was a mixed bag for my mom and us. I had steady work from
       | 9-19 (along w/ all of my friends) but all the peace and quiet
       | went away.
       | 
       | That slowly became a schism between our already chaotic
       | households (his wife, my mom) It culminated with him buying my
       | 100yo birth home, suddenly evicting us and then razing the house
       | to make sure we never returned. I was 19 and homeless. Also, my
       | mom had terminal cancer.
       | 
       | Nevertheless, my best Christmas memory is just me and my brother
       | and a walk in the woods. There isn't much to it other than an
       | exceptional moment where having a brother felt like a good thing.
       | 
       | When I was 16, we (Wash DC region) had a rare white Christmas. My
       | brother called the house early and invited me to walk. No
       | families, just us, the snow and the woods (the land _was_ my
       | childhood and is all gone now). Mostly he called me because he
       | had coke and wanted company. (His wife didn 't know; he did quit
       | after.)
       | 
       | For that hour or so, we were happy and unburdened by everything
       | we'd ever done to each other. The morning felt like a gift.
       | Probably our last one.
        
       | ninjamayo wrote:
       | Merry Christmas to everyone! I've read a few great stories in
       | here and thought of sharing mine. My childhood Christmas were
       | never that special unfortunately and during my teen years, life
       | was pretty tough. But I do have great memories from all the
       | Christmas I had my wife over the past 20 years. We established a
       | lot of Christmas traditions for our families, since I never had
       | any from my childhood to share. Actually we just finished
       | watching the Raiders of the Lost Ark and spent two hours talking
       | about great cinema and of course me playing the Indiana Jones
       | game from Lucasarts. Oh wish, I could get back in time and play
       | that game for the first time. Not quite the same playing it these
       | days, the magic unfortunately is gone.
       | 
       | So yeah today was a great Christmas day! All the best to the HN
       | community.
        
       | loumf wrote:
       | I took digital electronics when I was in high school. Some
       | classmates wrote a version of "The 12 Days of Christmas" except
       | with names of chips instead of the usual gifts.
       | 
       | The only line I can remember is "Five 555s"
        
       | v8xi wrote:
       | Christmas 1999 my father's business had just gone under when the
       | banks stopped lending after the dot com bubble. We didn't have
       | any presents until Christmas morning when our church dropped off
       | a bunch of presents for us. We got a Razor scooter and I spent
       | all day riding it downstairs. I just got my daughter a scooter
       | and she's doing the same this year :)
        
       | thomasfromcdnjs wrote:
       | My friend brought over a blow up pool and beers. Took us 6 hours
       | before we realized we both had our shorts on backwards.
        
       | Yawrehto wrote:
       | Have a merry Christmas, wonderful Hannukah, and, if you're
       | atheist, a wonderful...birthday of Isaac Newton?
        
       | weishigoname wrote:
       | Merry Christmas! every Christmas is memorable when family gather
       | together and share what changed during this year.
        
       | ngcc_hk wrote:
       | Wish all well. Silence night after then gift opening (sorry the
       | argument to wait for boxing days lost)
       | 
       | TL;dr.
       | 
       | No need like the communist china to object to Xmas so much that
       | is it since 2023 (?) say silence night should be used to remember
       | those soliders they sent to fight in North Korea against USA
       | army, mostly died due to freezing cold and anyway many are not
       | pla but nationalist surrender soldiers.
       | 
       | Let us have a little kindness, even if atheists or communists.
       | Fir one second.
        
       | dusted wrote:
       | Christmas of 1996, a ten year old boy was spending christmas day
       | in front of his TV, connected to it was his Commodore 64. The boy
       | was angry and sad, and ashamed of being angry and sad, because
       | his parents couldn't afford to buy him a PC, he knew it was an
       | unreasonable wish, and he knew he could not get it. He was
       | ashamed of his sadness and anger over not being able to get a PC
       | (it was all he'd ever wanted since he was 6 years old), and so he
       | didn't want to participate in the christmas dinner, he just
       | wanted to be left alone in his dark and sad room and play
       | Kickstart 2. He knew he was a little brat for feeling so, but
       | alas he couldn't help himself, he felt like the future was
       | rushing past without him.
       | 
       | After much convincing from his patient grandmother, the boy
       | finally participated, his parents knew he had a hard time, and
       | they told him that there was a present for him before the dinner
       | (in our tradition, we open presents on christmas eve, after the
       | dinner), so he thought they were taking pity on him, he said no,
       | he didn't want any presents.
       | 
       | They asked him softly to consider it again, and he heard
       | something in their voices and a feeling of intense shame came
       | over him, he saw the giant boxes, inside it, a brand new PC,
       | gifted from a wealthy, but distant relative who "thought it might
       | be healthy for the boys development of his interest". He cried,
       | out of shame, and out of happiness, and he grew up so much in
       | those moments, to feel so undeserving and yet grateful. That
       | computer was with him the next 6 years, a 100 mhz pentium, 16 mib
       | of RAM, 814 mib (fat32 formatted) harddisk, 4x CD rom drive. 14"
       | color monitor, windows 95, 3 button logitech ps/2 mouse, and ESS
       | AudioDrive sound card(soundblaster 100% compatible). On that
       | machine, he learned so much, and when he trashed it, there was
       | nobody to help him format it, so in time, he figured it out, by
       | trail and error, how to format and reinstall windows and drivers.
       | What a time to be alive. That computer was upgraded with a Voodoo
       | card, a CD burner, an ISA network card (he dragged it to many
       | LANs at friends houses and at the local youth club), at some
       | point 32 mib ram was added too. That machine sits behind me right
       | now, still fully functional. It's not an understatement to say
       | that that experience formed me as a human being, as well as
       | helped shape my future and career, having unlimited and
       | unrestrained access to a computer as a kid probably saved my life
       | in more ways than one. So that is one of my favorite christmas
       | memories.
        
       | gsch1 wrote:
       | Growing up in South Brazil, my childhood was filled with tropical
       | vibes. I remember the sweltering heat, with temperatures often
       | between 29-35degC. Santa Claus, dressed in winter clothes, would
       | be sweating and nearly fainting. Our holiday meals were a unique
       | mix of turkey and barbecue, and the adults always had plenty of
       | beer. It was always a big family reunion, with 15-30 people
       | gathering together. Crazy to think about it.
        
       | jamexcb wrote:
       | I received an empty, small blue plastic toolbox. For me, it was
       | the most amazing thing because now I had my own toolbox, like my
       | father and i could add anything to it. I still have that box. I
       | love it.
        
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