[HN Gopher] Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app
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Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app
Author : thunderbong
Score : 226 points
Date : 2024-12-22 11:34 UTC (2 days ago)
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| leobg wrote:
| Anyone using this as an Evernote replacement?
|
| I use Evernote since what, 2005, 2008? Yet I hate every time I
| start it up. Such ugly bloatware it has become. And the silly "AI
| powered" features tacked on when it became fashionable... Man,
| replacing it would feel so good.
| twojacobtwo wrote:
| I replaced Evernote with Joplin about 5ish years ago. It was
| super easy in my case, so maybe it's worth checking into. I
| haven't used the desktop app recently, but it was always
| snappier than evernote at the very least.
| bovermyer wrote:
| I use Obsidian for note-taking and personal knowledge
| management. I haven't used "save for later" bookmarklets or
| apps since I quit using Evernote many years ago, though.
| mrbigbob wrote:
| If people are interested it was featured hear on HN a day or
| two ago but Obsidian released an extension called Obsidian
| Clipper that can save webpages in markdown format.
| https://github.com/obsidianmd/obsidian-clipper
| smallpipe wrote:
| I use it when I need to get a table or something from a
| webpage. Works really well for small stuff.
| kalinkochnev wrote:
| I didn't know this existed for obsidian! This is perfect
| for me. Thanks for sharing
| _gtly wrote:
| Can this plugin work for Chrome on Android? Does anyone
| have a recommendation for bookmarking and/or webclips on
| Android?
| guiriduro wrote:
| - Pocket for bookmarking. - Onenote for longer form less
| structured note taking on copied/linked base material or
| needing exposition (somewhat reluctantly). Occasionally Word. -
| Anything/Jetbrains : Markdown for short form or dev docsor with
| intuitively clear sub-structure or heirarchy. (Pseudo)Code and
| comments for simple codable ideas, python-like. - Scapple for
| mind-mapping high level concepts, collections of related ideas
| or things, associations rather than hierarchies
| be_erik wrote:
| I use it exactly that way and publish an RSS feed of my
| archives: https://enlace.space/~erik/rss.xml
| samschoice wrote:
| I use Joplin since I left Evernote. They have an import for
| evernote https://joplinapp.org/
| elashri wrote:
| I tried hoarder and I didn't like the way listed view works. I
| prefer the simplicity of the view provided by Linkding. I find
| hoarder new auto tagging with ollama something I want to use
| because I am lazy.
|
| For references there are many options in selfhosted bookmarking
| apps market. These beside Hoarder are the most known software.
|
| Linkwarden (https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden)
|
| Shaarli (https://github.com/shaarli/Shaarli)
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| LinkAce (https://www.linkace.org/)
|
| Linkding (https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding)
|
| Wallabag (https://wallabag.org/)
|
| Shiori (https://github.com/go-shiori/shiori)
| raybb wrote:
| When I use a tool like this one of the most important things is
| that it works offline so I can read something in a plane or on
| the go.
|
| I've looked into most of these (and instapaper, pocket, etc)
| and ultimately found Wallabag to be the best. However, their
| app is quite buggy and site is fairly clunky for my taste.
| Luckily there's a pretty recent 3rd party client that works
| offline super well and is on Mac/Linux/android/iOS for free
| (yay flutter) https://github.com/casimir/frigoligo
|
| Also, I'll note that it's basically a must to use the browser
| extension with the option to download via what the browser sees
| if you get content from a lot of sites. That being said the
| devs are super responsive to reports that sites aren't being
| scraped appropriately.
|
| My biggest wish is that they supported YouTube (at least
| titles) and they had a way to indicate when a article needs to
| be scraped client side.
| raybb wrote:
| Now that I think about it, maybe I can write a little side
| script to fetch the YouTube titles and update it.
| jrm4 wrote:
| One thing that I've been looking for in these, and I seem to
| recall few have this:
|
| Public mode? I'd like people to NOT have to log in.
| technotarek wrote:
| FYI the demo's login credentials are case sensitive for the email
| field (when they probably shouldn't be?).
| BOOSTERHIDROGEN wrote:
| How do you manage restrictions on Reddit and X?
| lormayna wrote:
| It's using a chrome instance to access JS enabled sites.
| edoceo wrote:
| I've one I built called Cras. Store all my neat things I find on
| the web there. Recently turned it into a PWA so it's a share-
| target on my phone (Android) which is awesome.
|
| It's self-hosted and all packed into SQLite so, IMO, very
| portable.
|
| Recently added a trick to snapshot all the public links I save -
| my copy and on Archive.is - link rot is real.
| trestacos wrote:
| I've been thinking about building a service that makes it easy
| to self host apps like this. I'm curious if you'd find it
| useful.
|
| It would host webapps like yours that use in browser sqlite to
| store data, then the service provide a sync their sqlite data
| across different devices. The user not the app would pay for
| the storage of the data, so they would own their data. And you
| can use CSP to lock down the app from sharing with other
| domains, meaning an app can't leak your data.
|
| The service would handle identity (only you can access your
| sqlite data - the app just ) and could provide an app store
| like experience with different apps of this type.
|
| Sort of like a firebase style backend as a service, but the
| user would own the data instead of the app.
| georgebcrawford wrote:
| Is that what pikapods is? I ask out of ignorance, not
| "somebody is already doing that".
| elashri wrote:
| I think pikapods is providing vm as a service deploying and
| auto upgrading container versions of specific applications.
| You are still have the data belonging to the apps directly
| which is against the GOP thesis.
| marban wrote:
| I've saved ~50k .webarchive files from Safari in a single folder,
| indexed via Spotlight -- not an archivist's dream, but I'm a
| sucker for using anything in the OS stack.
| stogot wrote:
| I just boookmarked this into a "figure out where to put this
| later" folder, then realized the irony of that action.
| taude wrote:
| Went to my para system "0 - Inbox".
| sigmonsays wrote:
| anyone know how this compares to archivebox?
|
| Is it just bookmarks or does it download full pages?
|
| Bookmark applications are generally a failure for long term
| storage because links always change over time.. so i'm not sure
| what lense to look at this app through.
| elashri wrote:
| It does allow content retrieval so it does save local copy. And
| allow even downloading videos using yt-dl.
| _ache_ wrote:
| I use it for months now.
|
| It's very good. Some points that can be improved:
|
| - Search inside the description of the bookmark, it doesn't. -
| Update to a new version of hoarder. Since the software isn't
| stable, it's a real problem. - Related to the previous point =>
| More archive formats.
|
| Otherwise, it's a very good software. Easy to use, nice front-
| end, good UX.
| InsideOutSanta wrote:
| Is there an official upgrade path available between versions,
| or do they currently break things without providing migration?
| mohamedbassem wrote:
| Hey, Hoarder's maintainer here. I'd like to know more about
| the pain you're facing when upgrading hoarder. All the
| releases since launch has been backward compatible, and it
| has always been just a matter of updating the docker images.
|
| Also for searches, Hoarder indexes all the content of the
| websites it crawls. If it doesn't for you then that would be
| a bug!
| jrm4 wrote:
| So far I love and am probably about to go all in, especially
| since you can bring your own "AI."
|
| Relatedly (and I think the authors are working on it) anyone
| using local AI for tags and know good ways to tweak (I'm using
| Ollama and would love to constrain the the tags a bit?)
| mohamedbassem wrote:
| Hoarder supports customizing the tagging prompt in the user
| settings. You can instruct the model with whatever rules you
| want to constrain the tags to your likings!
| activeradio wrote:
| really cool!
| apitman wrote:
| This looks cool
|
| *bookmarks it in huge Trello list where cool bookmarks go to die*
| lormayna wrote:
| I am using it since couple of months and it works really fine.
| The UI is improved a lot since the first release. Tagging is not
| the best, but it depends a lot on the AI response
| maestrae wrote:
| Been looking at these tools and honestly, my big issue is backup
| - specifically, I want a dead simple way to continuously back up
| my links to something like S3. Not really interested in relying
| on the Internet Archive or having to set up and babysit yet
| another backup system. is it like completely antithetical to the
| average self-hoster ethos to use the cloud where it makes sense?
|
| I really like hoarder, but kind of surprised how many tools
| either totally skip over backup functionality or treat it as an
| afterthought (like this Hoarder issue here:
| https://github.com/hoarder-app/hoarder/issues/75). Feels like
| this should be a no-brainer feature, right?
| nrdvana wrote:
| If you're hosting it yourself, I would expect that you also
| make backups of your whole server and/or database if one is
| involved. A custom backup feature built into the app seems
| redundant.
| mohamedbassem wrote:
| Hoarder's maintainer here! What a nice surprise seeing Hoarder on
| the homepage of hackernews!
| garrisonj wrote:
| These types of projects always look really cool, but I always
| doubt they will be maintained so I decide not to use them.
| nirav72 wrote:
| Hoarder has been great. Was finally able to dump my annual $40
| Pocket subscription. Auto tagging using LLM works well. Only
| issue I have is that mobile app doesn't allow offline storage and
| viewing.
| anovick wrote:
| Seems like the tag system is flat, which is a big limitation on
| the organization capability.
|
| For example, I noticed that in the demo access app, there's a
| note about cooking, and it has 4 tags: - `baking` - `cupcakes` -
| `oven cooking` - `recipe`
|
| This would get out of hand quickly.
|
| There should be a hierarchy of tags (categories): `cupcakes` in
| `baking` in `oven cooking` in `recipe`
|
| The only tag needed in this case for the note would be `cupcakes`
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