[HN Gopher] When Two Hemispheres Collide: Where to Now for Rewil...
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When Two Hemispheres Collide: Where to Now for Rewilding in
Ireland?
Author : dnetesn
Score : 59 points
Date : 2024-12-18 12:32 UTC (3 days ago)
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| MrMcCall wrote:
| This is the closing line of the very nice article.
|
| > The future is in our hands.
|
| It always has been, and always will be.
|
| The problem, as outlined in the article, is that we (the entire
| human race) have almost always left it in the hands of our
| "betters", and those wealthy folks have very rarely given a crap
| about the rest of us, or our beloved mother Earth.
|
| They think that their having wealth makes their every whim and
| fancy the right and proper thing to do, and, as the article
| shows, that is far from the truth.
|
| Of course, we peasants have to, ourselves, learn how to truly be
| better, truly know how to wield power for the benefit of _all_
| human beings, out of compassion for all of our children, and our
| children 's children, ...
|
| "Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights." --Peter Tosh
|
| "Love is the truth." --Jack White's song of the same name
| mistrial9 wrote:
| you forgot "the victors of War write the history and build
| their castles", and "cultural forces" including (especially?)
| those originating among "peasants" .. casting your evolutionary
| and kind comment as a "peasant" appears to wear a lot of
| assumptions on the sleeve
| MrMcCall wrote:
| Well, when a person doesn't want to believe the truth, they
| are free to construct whatever reality they choose, based
| upon what "appears" in their mind's eye.
|
| That is why the truth is so important in this world. To seek
| the truth requires humility, that being crucial in all
| aspects of life and is the most essential lesson of Dunning-
| Kruger's study.
|
| It is precisely my humility that has allowed me to gain some
| measure of wisdom, which I share honestly and compassionately
| here.
| 52-6F-62 wrote:
| There is a huge problem looking at issues as if our entire lens
| can only go back 150-200 years. Go back a few more hundred
| years and the lines between rich and poor man's intent start to
| blur--especially in Ireland. If all things were equal in
| delivery to people you would still see some people live in
| squalor and some learn towards some more refined practices. It
| doesn't matter.
|
| What does matter is this insufferably march "forward" into a
| world where we can't allow such individual will for any number
| of reasons, effectively neutering any real cultural
| development.
|
| I'll paraphrase David Bowie--we should all be happy just
| picking nuts but here we are.
|
| There is nobody qualified to take on "all" human beings and
| decide what is right on such a scale. No matter how many
| honours one adorns oneself with.
|
| Case in point: the kingdom and culture of England doing what it
| did in the 13th to 20th centuries through the Isles and beyond.
| It needed to modernize and "bring prosperity" through the poor,
| rural, gaelic regions who just couldn't "get with the times".
| One should wonder if those "poor" rural folks were ever hard up
| or unhappy until armies trounced through burning their homes
| and spoiling their land in the name of modernity.
|
| The questions we need to ask ourselves take the form of silly
| platitudes:
|
| What would we really do and care about if we had it all and had
| no more labour and toil before us?
|
| Culture, love, beauty. Things that dont really cost anything
| and nobody is really inhibited from enjoying as long as they
| are creative.
|
| And if we are not creative, then none of the vices or devices
| in the world will ever save us from continually seeking to
| "fix" it all.
|
| Keep looking for dividing lines in the external and you'll
| always find them. But the problem is in the human heart.
|
| (Ironically, trying to convince wealthy tech bros of that is
| like diving into an acid pit. I can definitely agree that I
| don't want my future in their hands. The poets may be crafty
| but at least they seek truth)
| MrMcCall wrote:
| > Keep looking for dividing lines in the external and you'll
| always find them. But the problem is in the human heart.
|
| Yes, the problem is in the human heart, but I'm not in charge
| of the petrochemical industry that is polluting the planet,
| nor am I an oppressor causing misery for the poor or folks of
| other ethnicities or cultures.
|
| History has taught us enough about what other folks are
| capable of when their hearts are tuned against universal
| compassion, for me to know whom to keep a careful eye on.
|
| > Culture, love, beauty. Things that dont really cost
| anything and nobody is really inhibited from enjoying as long
| as they are creative.
|
| I've never read anything so absurd on HN.
| bunabhucan wrote:
| >The other really interesting observation is the presence of the
| unarmed stick insect--native to New Zealand, it can be found
| here.
|
| Awesome job lads, thanks so much for the empire being able to
| introduce us to things like this.
| Stevvo wrote:
| [delayed]
| secondcoming wrote:
| > he set about planting the seemingly barren island with Southern
| Hemisphere exotic species, first by screening the exposed site
| with plants such as native gorse and then with hedges of Chilean
| Escalonias and Rhododendron hybrids.
|
| Rhododendron looks pretty but is an absolute plague in Ireland.
| It grows so big and vast that people sometimes get lost in them.
|
| https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27882358
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