[HN Gopher] Cannabis pollen dispersal across the United States
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Cannabis pollen dispersal across the United States
Author : PaulHoule
Score : 41 points
Date : 2024-12-19 10:17 UTC (12 hours ago)
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| contingencies wrote:
| Nature's gonna nature.
|
| The fallacious line of thinking that one can fully isolate an
| outdoor planting is the more interesting issue this touches on, a
| skeptical take is that this fallacy continues to exist in
| regulation only for its utility of abuse by large companies
| seeking to profit from the commercialization of sterile GM crops.
|
| I'm sure the upper echelon of commercial weed growers typically
| have a far higher education in landscape ecology than the
| captured regulators.
| lukan wrote:
| "The fallacious line of thinking that one can fully isolate an
| outdoor planting"
|
| Who thinks that? It is about reducing unwanted pollination. So
| if you know the wind will come strong from this area and lots
| of hemp field are there, you can maybe protect your plants some
| time of the year, or know beforehand, that an area is not a
| good spot for you.
| indrora wrote:
| Monsanto, at one level or another. While they pinky-promise
| to not sue, if their corn gets into your corn and you replant
| the seeds, they've fought about it in court to mixed results.
| colechristensen wrote:
| Almost nobody replants their own corn. Almost all corn
| planted is an F1 hybrid, the first generation of a cross
| between two varieties. Subsequent generations perform very
| much worse. This is a natural thing not an engineered
| thing, many plants on the first generation cross between
| two varieties perform much better.
|
| Most corn is also patent encumbered, but that is less of
| the reason.
|
| Soybeans are actually different and before all of the
| patented genetics people did sometimes replant their own
| grown seed.
| to11mtm wrote:
| I thought Canola (which is a disturbing plant in general
| for food use) was their big hitter for that sort of thing?
| beardedwizard wrote:
| But the cannabis industry is mostly large companies capturing
| regulators and litigating genetics, so I'm not sure the
| distinction is accurate.
| PaulHoule wrote:
| In New York the cannabis industry is still largely grey
| market.
|
| I have been trying to quit, we finally cut up the plants that
| we had from last year and put them in jars and sent them away
| but then somebody shows up with a jar of something they grew.
|
| I don't think I'll ever buy weed from a dispensary because
| between being able to grow a few plants for myself and
| getting weed from friends who also grew it for themselves as
| well as knowing people in the industry (leaders in the trade
| association) it keeps showing up.
| kramer2718 wrote:
| This is a largely political problem. Cross pollination does not
| affect the utility of commercial help-only its legality. You can
| study wind dispersal, etc, but at the end of the day, the problem
| is a bunch of clueless old men.
| diggan wrote:
| > This is a largely political problem
|
| Is it? "leading to contaminated seeds, reduced oil yields, and
| in some cases, mandated crop destruction" sounds not like a
| political problem, or you mean the causes for those things are
| political?
| mholm wrote:
| These issues at least partially stem from the politics
| surrounding cannabis. 'Mandated crop destruction' is
| absolutely a political problem, because it's just driven by
| seeds cross pollinating into plants that exceed the arbitrary
| political limit. Oil yields and contaminated seeds are not
| specified, but might be due to similar arbitrary
| restrictions, rather than actual issues with the product
| brutal_chaos_ wrote:
| Isn't it also a problem for breeders? I would think pollenation
| could cause issues for indoor as well as outdoor crops,
| especially specific strain breeding and understanding
| pollenation patterns would help mitigate some of that.
| openthc wrote:
| Another thing that happens to outdoor grown cannabis is pesticide
| contamination. Even if your farm is a good distance from some
| commercial agriculture, if they spray it can, and does,
| contaminate your crop -- which for regulated cannabis requires
| destruction. Literally burning (or composting) thousands of
| dollars of product.
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| And if the pesticides test are hot on the cross-contaminated
| cannabis; how much is on those apples three fields over?
| to11mtm wrote:
| Wouldn't composting risk having the pesticides go into the next
| crop further contaminating?
|
| Although, to your point, they can just sell it to the nearby
| farms growing stuff we eat that isn't tested the same way...
| jcarrano wrote:
| Yet corn hybrid production, which requires strict controls on
| pollination, is made to work. Is there a difference with hemp
| pollen or is the problem on the regulatory side?
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