[HN Gopher] Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.
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Legal fights over kei trucks in the U.S.
Author : impish9208
Score : 27 points
Date : 2024-12-16 22:10 UTC (1 days ago)
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| impish9208 wrote:
| Gift link: https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/pickup-truck-
| drivers-kei-...
| slwvx wrote:
| https://archive.ph/lgUsJ
| nothercastle wrote:
| Ban the victims not the perpetrators (cybertruck)
| Terr_ wrote:
| It would be nice if cars got more of a bonus to their safety
| rating based on how they _won 't_ pulp _other_ people in an
| accident.
| blacksmith_tb wrote:
| It would be nice if non-cars, like SUVs and pickups, paid more
| for insurance (but they pay less, because being tanks they
| protect their occupants even as they lay waste to everything
| else - unfortunately insurers care more about the former than
| the latter).
| rascul wrote:
| Insurance on my 1999 Chevy pickup costs more than my 2001
| Olds Intrigue.
|
| Or at least it did a few years ago when the car was insured
| and on the road.
| tppiotrowski wrote:
| Sounds incorrect. I think the insurance rate is based on the
| value of the vehicle and SUVs and trucks are much more
| expensive than compacts and sedans.
| singleshot_ wrote:
| The part of your insurance that pays the medical bills for
| a person you smush (third party liability) is entirely
| separate from the part that rebuilds your car if it gets
| wrecked (collision/comprehensive damage). They should be
| priced separately on your binder, but you can call up your
| insurer to price compare relatively easily.
| potato3732842 wrote:
| Insurance doesn't cover legal expenses and their civil
| liability is capped pretty low. They'd rather you kill
| the pedestrian.
| ricardobeat wrote:
| Pedestrian and cyclist protection, emergency braking, etc. have
| been in the criteria for Euro NCAP for a while. American
| regulations are probably under siege by the auto industry.
| r00fus wrote:
| s/under seige by/on the payroll of/
| gorkish wrote:
| Anyone who thinks that kei trucks shouldn't be on roads and
| highways and motorcycles should ought to have their head
| examined.
|
| For the record I support both, with the exception of 3 wheel
| delta configuration motorcycles such as Harley's 3 wheeler.
| Riding one is a death wish; selling one should be a crime.
| xnx wrote:
| Good to see this getting more attention. It's hard to make sense
| of a system that allows motorcycles but not kei trucks.
|
| 4 months ago on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41180154
| nyx wrote:
| I've rambled about this on here before, but I'm pretty bothered
| that the media coverage of these always mentions the 25-year
| import law, but also always frames it simply as a matter of
| exemption from safety and emissions standards, never deigning to
| mention that the law originated in the first place as a
| protectionist measure.
|
| In the late 80s, Mercedes in North America was getting its lunch
| eaten by grey-market importers who were bringing European models
| over and undercutting the American dealers on price. So they blew
| millions lobbying the government to crack down on these imports,
| and found a not-wholly-unsubstantiated justification in safety
| concerns around modifications not complying with American safety
| standards. So the US just enacted a sweeping ban of any new
| imports; you can bring in dodgy old cars from the 1990s
| unmodified, but you can't bring in a 2024 European Mercedes or
| Japanese kei truck, because they're "unsafe". The new cars can't
| be titled, and if the feds find out you got one in anyway,
| they'll literally confiscate it and throw it in the crusher.
|
| Seeing Whistlindiesel in the article makes me realize that there
| could be a bipartisan coalition here of "government should let me
| do what I want" conservatives and libertarians, and urban-design
| lefties who resent having to drive everywhere and would love to
| buy the minimum amount of car possible to meet their needs if
| such a thing were possible. My conspiracy theory is that burying
| the lede on this is intentional because people buying $12,000
| Japanese imports wouldn't be buying $60,000 F-150s.
| GuestFAUniverse wrote:
| Yeah. No problem to drive a tank sized child killer with a hood
| so long that it's close to driving blind, but these small trucks
| are a risk... You're allowed to risks others lives, but when
| you're willing to risks your own the nanny state is on high
| alert.
|
| Go, go! Land of the free!
| potato3732842 wrote:
| The part that drives me up the wall is how much the group of
| people who complain about the safety impact of people over-
| provisioning their personal vehicles (massive pickups and
| whatnot) overlaps with the group who complains about any
| automobile design that trades away safety in pursuit of another
| engineering goal.
|
| I can understand drawing a line on a subjective issue but at
| least be ideologically about it if you want me to respect you in
| the slightest.
| xrd wrote:
| Next, do Chinese EVs, right? Or, am I wrong?
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