[HN Gopher] Wishing for a more orderly disruption may misunderst...
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       Wishing for a more orderly disruption may misunderstand government
       reform
        
       Author : rmason
       Score  : 13 points
       Date   : 2024-12-14 00:52 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | rmason wrote:
       | I am cautiously optimistic about what Elon Musk is attempting
       | with DOGE. But half my friends are convinced he will fail and
       | that his legacy won't be Tesla or sending rockets to Mars but
       | failing to reform the government. The other half think two
       | trillion is too small a target.
       | 
       | I think two trillion is way too high a target but I am pretty
       | certain they will achieve meaningful cuts that will make our
       | government more nimble and faster. I just wished that Trump had
       | not promised they wouldn't be allowed to touch social security or
       | Medicare and Medicaid. I think there are hundreds of millions of
       | dollars of Medicare and Medicaid fraud that could be rooted out
       | in two and a half years. But I do plead guilty to being an
       | optimist.
        
         | Flozzin wrote:
         | I want to say it was the NYTimes, "the daily" podcast that did
         | a pretty good job of being even handed when talking about this.
         | If anyone is interested, it should be the Dec 4th one. They
         | brought up the fact that we've tried to do things like this in
         | the past, and that they have all mostly failed, for political
         | reasons.
         | 
         | Cutting government spending is very hard to do. Everyone has
         | special interests they look to protect, and no congress person
         | wants to be the one that stopped funding for their
         | district/state. I too am hopeful, but I have my doubts.
        
         | wat10000 wrote:
         | It's funny to see people talking about DOGE as if it was
         | actually a thing. Right now it's just a collective term for
         | Vivek and Elon saying stuff. It's not actually a department and
         | there's no indication that will ever change. These two guys are
         | going to say a bunch of stuff, they'll be totally ignored by
         | the politicians and bureaucrats alike, and that's all that's
         | going to happen with DOGE.
        
       | dang wrote:
       | I noticed that Stewart Brand recommended this piece
       | (https://x.com/stewartbrand/status/1868407292418498605), so I've
       | replaced the baity title with the neutral subtitle and re-upped
       | it.
       | 
       | If you're going to comment in this thread, please make sure
       | you're posting thoughtfully, i.e. reflectively* and not reacting
       | reflexively to one of the obvious triggers here. That's how the
       | article is written (not counting the title), so please respond in
       | kind and sail around the obvious icebergs.
       | 
       | * https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
        
       | AvAn12 wrote:
       | Can we keep politics out of Hacker News? Otherwise this will very
       | quickly degenerate into being like any other shouty social media
       | zone instead of the valuable place to exchange ideas relating to
       | technology topics. Thanks.
        
         | Kinrany wrote:
         | I wonder if there's a better way to phrase this. Keeping
         | politics out is neither possible nor desirable, but we all know
         | that there's _something_ that 's related to politics that
         | should be avoided to keep conversations high quality.
        
       | PittleyDunkin wrote:
       | Meanwhile the DOD will continue vaccuuming up taxpayer money and
       | doing god knows what with it for god knows what reasons
        
         | Analemma_ wrote:
         | Yeah, any talk about "reigning in government spending/waste"
         | that doesn't start and end with the military is totally
         | unserious. The DOD wastes more money every day than all the
         | usual suspects in this kind of talk do in a year.
        
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