[HN Gopher] Eyes Wide Shut: Hidden in Plain Sight
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Eyes Wide Shut: Hidden in Plain Sight
Author : jim-jim-jim
Score : 47 points
Date : 2024-12-13 05:07 UTC (2 days ago)
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| Mistletoe wrote:
| I never grow tired of this movie and think it is a complete
| masterpiece. I feel like I'm on another planet when people don't
| like it. And most people don't like it. :)
|
| It's such a bizarre wonderful dreamworld of the human psyche that
| Kubrick created. Like if Kubrick made a Fellini film.
| 082349872349872 wrote:
| > _most people don 't like it_
|
| That sounds like a recommendation! After reading:
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| > _Kubrick was perhaps the world 's most successful maker of
| mainstream art films._
|
| I'd had a vision of Kubrick as the Thomas Kinkade of the 7th
| art, which luckily was quickly dissipated by:
|
| > _He found a way--like few before him or since--to make
| interpretive movies that are commercially successful in popular
| culture while simultaneously appealing to cult film audiences,
| intellectuals and academics, cinephiles, critics, artists, and
| fellow filmmakers._
| browningstreet wrote:
| I could write a thousand words but I'll just write: Kubrick
| isn't a Kinkade.
| PittleyDunkin wrote:
| Yes; different media entirely.
| throw_pm23 wrote:
| The atmosphere of the movie is amazing, as you say. But the
| storyline in the end seems not to tie together, and not in the
| intentional way like, e.g., a David Lynch movie would mess with
| the story on purpose, but in the sense that "we had this much
| footage when the director died, so we had to put together what
| we had and call it a day". Still one of my favorite movies
| though.
| nntwozz wrote:
| It has 7.5 on IMDb, most people seem to like it (I give it an
| 8).
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| https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120663/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rat
| klik99 wrote:
| I hated it on first watch, when it came out, due to expecting
| something different. Now I absolutely love it. I get why people
| don't like it, like how Tom Cruise goes around almost but never
| actually having sex, the movie always hints at a satisfying
| wrap up but never delivers it, which is totally intentional. It
| works with many different interpretations, you can read it
| through cultural, psychological, and probably other lenses.
| Still I'm wary of talking about it since it's probably too
| effective at portraying a paranoid mindset.
| JadeNB wrote:
| > It's such a bizarre wonderful dreamworld of the human psyche
| that Kubrick created. Like if Kubrick made a Fellini film.
|
| Of course _The Shining_ shows that what Kubrick makes of a
| novel is not necessarily what the author made, but it 's
| probably worth giving some credit for the dreamworld to
| Schnitzler--the novel is literally called, or so Wikipedia
| tells me it translates
| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Story), _Dream Story_.
| pimeys wrote:
| I saw it in the theaters in 1999, I was a huge Kubrick fan, 15
| years old and I hated the movie.
|
| After two divorces, I watched it again and totally understood
| the whole thing. It is a great movie.
|
| Still, my favorite is Barry Lyndon...
| nwienert wrote:
| Barry Lyndon is sublime.
| benbojangles wrote:
| The abduction of cruise and Kidmans daughter at the end is one
| interesting reference to some sordid things. But I did not see
| the article reference the op-art painting above the daughters
| (helena) bed providing another secret reference to something
| sinister. I recall Kubrick being bothered by the heavy censorship
| and editing by the UK film board, I wonder if we will ever get to
| see those removed scenes, what, and why they were removed etc.
| Kubrick died within a week of the film release, perhaps he knew
| too much, perhaps not. Maybe prince Andrew did go to Pizza
| Express.
| throw646577 wrote:
| > I recall Kubrick being bothered by the heavy censorship and
| editing by the UK film board, I wonder if we will ever get to
| see those removed scenes, what, and why they were removed etc.
|
| I don't believe Kubrick had particular problems with the
| British Board of Film Censors.
|
| The BBFC never censored A Clockwork Orange, for example. They
| passed it without cuts, though they had seen a pre-print of the
| first completed half of the movie as was the custom, and had
| been concerned that it might not get certification. The censor
| commended the final movie.
|
| Kubrick _personally_ pulled it from distribution in the UK,
| after they had passed it and it had a limited release.
|
| https://www.bbfc.co.uk/education/case-studies/clockwork-oran...
|
| The BBFC do not and did not edit films. They are not a
| government body. They did once call themselves censors (the
| words of the acronym changed in the 80s), but the point of the
| BBFC was that the film industry was censoring its own work
| proactively, and maintaining their own certifications, to avoid
| government doing it. Similar to what the MPA(A) did.
|
| They still sometimes suggest edits that would keep a film
| within a particular certification.
|
| In the case of Eyes Wide Shut, it wasn't the BBFC that made any
| decisions to edit and cut that film; Warner Bros themselves
| did, based on the US classification they were aiming for.
|
| > Kubrick died within a week of the film release, perhaps he
| knew too much, perhaps not.
|
| Or perhaps, after a stressful filming, editing and production
| schedule, a 70 year old man had a heart attack in his sleep.
| mugwumprk wrote:
| I read a lot of this, had to stop. In a way, it's like the film
| itself. It has a lot of words, a lot of details, and it seems to
| mean something. But at the end, it really doesn't amount to much.
| "Mulholland Drive" was a much more effective comment on wealth,
| power, and misogyny.
| PittleyDunkin wrote:
| > But at the end, it really doesn't amount to much.
|
| Idk the rampant pedophilia in the movie certainly rhymes with
| revelations about Epstein.
| jFatFinger wrote:
| That is because it was heavy edited by the studio after
| directors death and no where near the original cut. In original
| ending they actually give their daughter to the cult so they
| can be members.
| baruchthescribe wrote:
| I agree with this analyst here that Dr Bill traverses the 33
| degrees of the Scottish Rite:
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| https://33degreesofeyeswideshut.wordpress.com/
| dcl wrote:
| I watched this just the other day (as a joke Christmas film)
| after having not seen it for about 10-12 years. It's waaaay
| better than I remember and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Definitely
| hits a bit different after Epstein.
|
| The Very Bad Wizards podcast on it is interesting/fun too.
| https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/very-bad-orgies-kubric...
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