[HN Gopher] The tooth, the whole tooth and the jawbone too
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The tooth, the whole tooth and the jawbone too
Author : Hooke
Score : 36 points
Date : 2024-12-13 13:07 UTC (1 days ago)
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| mistersquid wrote:
| From the OP:
|
| > She suffered a toothache and asked a barber-surgeon to extract
| the offending molar. He struggled to get the tooth out, but
| convinced the patient to let him try again with different tools.
|
| > > He fixed his instrument, and with a sudden exertion of all
| his strength, he brought away the affected Tooth, together with a
| piece of the jaw-bone, as big as a walnut, and three neighbouring
| Molares.
| evmar wrote:
| (wife is a dentist)
|
| To my knowledge, the state of the art in tooth removal still is
| basically pliers and a lot of force. The difference today is a
| trained professional knows the technique and has practiced it a
| lot. (And anesthetic.)
|
| Here's a random video of it from a quick search on YouTube:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vydv7aomV20
| thangngoc89 wrote:
| (I'm a dentist)
|
| To further expand on your comment, the alveolar bone is
| porous so we use pilers on the tooth to compress the alveolar
| bone, making a big enough hole for the whole tooth to come
| out in one piece.
|
| Molars have 2-3 roots so it is a lot of efforts. In difficult
| case, I would divide the tooth into sections to pull each
| root out.
| infinite8s wrote:
| What's the current state of the art in terms of being able
| to regrow teeth/regenerate alveolar bone?
| heymijo wrote:
| One thing is using rapamycin for bone and soft tissue
| regrowth. The FDA recently approved a human study after
| previous research showed success in mice.
|
| https://dental.washington.edu/uw-periodontal-study-
| receives-...
| bbarnett wrote:
| I have 4! At least on the one yanked a few years back. My
| dental surgeon was amused... and annoyed.
| lukeholder wrote:
| Don't ever tell a 2 wisdom teeth story:
| https://youtu.be/cRdjDTMSTtY?si=4Qz0OR6B8t2MG7E9
| handzhiev wrote:
| Teeth treatment alone is enough to be very very thankful that we
| live today vs even a century ago
| graemep wrote:
| If you go further back it lot does not get a lot worse, and
| further back at least some people would have had less tooth
| decay because of better diets.
|
| A century ago is probably pretty close to the worst possible
| time: starchy diets, relatively cheap pure/refined sugar, but
| no modern dentistry.
| jader201 wrote:
| > A century ago is probably pretty close to the worst
| possible time
|
| Which may have attributed/motivated the later advancements
| that were made.
| lifestyleguru wrote:
| It took me too many unnecessarily drilled and filled teeth by
| overzealous dentists to realize this. I removed salt-sugar-
| fat junk food from the diet and care about my teeth.
| Absolutely nothing happened with them for one decade now.
| Again... bloody dentists, they abuse so much the fact that
| you trust them. They treat your teeth as a piece of sandstone
| until there is nothing to drill into anymore.
| potsandpans wrote:
| I've read that medieval populations had significant tooth
| wear due to stone mills depositing stone residue into flour.
|
| Im not sure how this stacks against the time period youre
| referencing, if it was better or worse.
| inglor_cz wrote:
| https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3094918/
|
| One of the many articles studying dental health of pre-
| modern populations.
|
| Yeah, it wasn't great. Human teeth aren't really suitable
| for a long-lived species that eats a lot of carbs.
| archermarks wrote:
| Even as far back as ancient Egypt [1]. And they had
| dentistry too [2]! Any time in history where they milled
| grains into flour with stone, you can see this pattern. In
| fact, it can be used to differentiate certain agricultural
| vs non-agricultural populations in the archaeological
| record [3].
|
| [1]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19396207/
|
| [2]https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/
| ar.2...
|
| [3]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16353225/
| Mistletoe wrote:
| I've always found this guy's stuff fascinating.
|
| https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/nutrition-
| greats/...
|
| Lots of pics here.
|
| https://www.ericdavisdental.com/facial-orthotropics-for-
| your...
| Modified3019 wrote:
| Unfortunately, here in the US, the elderly are often
| completely without any sort of dental coverage.
|
| Which means they can't afford to do anything besides watch
| the teeth rot out of their head when problems start showing
| up, leading to far worse and even more painful and expensive
| problems.
| thefaux wrote:
| North American indigenous people were known to have remarkably
| good teeth.
| lbourdages wrote:
| Probably caused by the relatively small amount of carbs in
| their diet?
| inglor_cz wrote:
| I suspect that the Mexica who ate a lot of maize had more
| cavities.
| block_dagger wrote:
| Bravo on the title.
| rekabis wrote:
| When wholesale collapse does come for humanity later this
| century, things are going to get very ugly for people in terms of
| the lack of modern dentistry and medical care.
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