[HN Gopher] BlenderGPT
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BlenderGPT
Author : handfuloflight
Score : 323 points
Date : 2024-12-12 13:23 UTC (9 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.blendergpt.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.blendergpt.org)
| dismalaf wrote:
| Colour me impressed. First model generating LLM I've tried that
| isn't terrible.
| terminalbraid wrote:
| "Try it out for free!"
|
| _Demands a google account, as if my personal info is somehow
| worthless._
| gregjw wrote:
| Considering infra costs, it kind of is worthless, they aren't
| about to start selling advertising on their AI tool.
|
| I'd assume the reason they have auth is so they don't get
| botted and it absolutely bricks their servers.
| terminalbraid wrote:
| I don't disagree with you. It should not be billed as "free"
| without qualification. It should read "free with google
| account".
| LoganDark wrote:
| Contrary to the downvotes on the above comment I see
| absolutely _zero_ issue with wanting to be informed of this
| in advance. I would 've made this exact same comment if I
| had run into it myself.
| Kiro wrote:
| It clearly says "Sign up with Google" before you're
| prompted with anything. Saying it on the landing page
| itself as an asterisk next to "free" would just feel
| stupid, like those overly cautious warning labels, and if
| anything make me think less of the service.
| kfajdsl wrote:
| You would be informed of it when you click on the button
| and see that it requires a Google account...
| perks_12 wrote:
| The page wants access to your name, email, language
| settings and profile picture. Language setting and profile
| picture aside, you would need to surrender that information
| anyway for billing purposes.
| KMnO4 wrote:
| The usage of "free" is almost always used when referring to
| something that can be obtained/used without exchanging
| money.
|
| Google is not requiring you to pay for an account. Even if
| they were, you could still complain that this is not "free
| without an active internet subscription", or "free without
| owning a device that can connect to the internet", or "free
| without taking up 5 minutes of my time".
| Vampiero wrote:
| ... You can also sign up with email.
| me_bx wrote:
| Actually, no. The UI is misleading.
|
| It asks you to first sign up with Google. Then it lets
| you sign in with your gmail address.
| Kiro wrote:
| It's like saying an apple someone gives you is not "free"
| but "free with the condition of using your muscles to pick
| up the apple". While technically true it's not something
| anyone would reasonably expect to be labeled that way.
| whtsthmttrmn wrote:
| Then I suppose nothing is free and the word should be
| removed from all language since this sort of hair splitting
| can be applied to everything lol
| preommr wrote:
| It should read "free with google account, electricity,
| computer and/or all other equipment needed to interface
| with a website, and last but not least, the user's time."
| yazzku wrote:
| Captcha?
| mcosta wrote:
| How much does it cost?
| mnau wrote:
| Just make a new Google account. It's not like you have to fill
| correct info and you can make two accounts with same phone
| number (at least I could ~1 year ago).
| plipt wrote:
| I appreciate you sharing this. However are you not concerned
| that Google might flag your accounts as being somehow
| fraudulent? And then get locked out of your digital identity?
|
| Maybe I am too reliant on my gmail account.
| whtsthmttrmn wrote:
| > Maybe I am too reliant on my gmail account.
|
| Ding ding ding!
| mnau wrote:
| Not really. They have official help topic as well as UI to
| switch accounts: Sign in to multiple accounts at once.
|
| I literally have same phone number at both, so it would be
| easiest thing in the world to add verification for
| uniqueness of the phone number.
|
| It's not like I am making tens or even thousands of
| accounts or doing anything nefarious with them. Just having
| my "official" account and "throwaway" account.
|
| Can google ban happy ban me? Sure, if that happens, it
| happens. I lost access to my email before (small national
| provider from days before the internet was big, it just
| stopped working one day). But that can happen anyway, but I
| don't see any policy that would suggest that (at least
| nothing in first page of google suggest that).
| Kiro wrote:
| For the vast majority of sites with Google login it is indeed
| worthless. I implement it because I want to give people an easy
| login option and because customers want it. I couldn't care
| less about your personal info.
| mrtksn wrote:
| IMHO this unjustified negativity, it's asking you to sign with
| your Google account which gives them very basic info about you
| which is very reasonable considering that they are going to
| give you a computationally intensive demo. It's a common
| practice against abuse, it's not asking you to install a
| tracking software or anything.
| takinox2 wrote:
| the person who developed just mentioned how its for cost
| minimisation purposes. know about the things before you
| mindlessly bring someone down.
| terminalbraid wrote:
| I know exactly what it's for and if you read all my comments
| before you mindlessly try to bring someone down, my complaint
| isn't with needing an account, it's saying you can use this
| for "free" unqualified. Not even "free with account". It's
| "free with and only with a google account".
| Salgat wrote:
| You're welcome to make a throwaway gmail account if you want
| "truly free". And don't try to argue that your time still has
| value, because then that means nothing is truly free.
| drusepth wrote:
| Technically, they also demand you have a computer, internet
| access, and enough education to be able to read. I'd also still
| call it "free" though.
| gregjw wrote:
| Subway Surfers while you wait. Oh boy.
| latexr wrote:
| You can't do anything without signing in with a Google account.
| JKCalhoun wrote:
| Three free images seems to be the limit. Using a photo as the
| prompt did not seem to work for me.
| elliottcarlson wrote:
| I tried three images as the prompt, all three isolated without
| a background, and it worked pretty decently. Nothing I would
| actually use, but they generated something close enough.
| okasaki wrote:
| it's not its
| throw646577 wrote:
| That ship has sailed. Along with the good ship capital letters
| at the beginning of sentences.
|
| It's a GenAI subculture signifier. Utterly tiresome; HN and the
| tech web is riddled with it.
| Retr0id wrote:
| > It's a GenAI subculture signifier
|
| Presumably, the point is to be a "written by a human"
| signifier
| throw646577 wrote:
| The signifier is to sound and write like Sam Altman, I
| think. It's perfectly possible to write in a style that
| doesn't sound like ChatGPT, which has the tone of a
| collection of college admissions essays written by perky,
| shallow people with no life experience.
| baal80spam wrote:
| For some reason the page doesn't work for me but this is the
| video I received in my RSS link: https://blendergptv2-jobs.s3.us-
| east-2.amazonaws.com/compres...
|
| Anyway - I can't find a good reason for someone to start 3D
| graphic course today. A tool like this will eat everyone's lunch.
| aloisdg wrote:
| what about programming?
| jarmitage wrote:
| Same/different to https://github.com/gd3kr/BlenderGPT ?
| bee_rider wrote:
| That's pretty slick. I wonder if this sort of thing, generating a
| 3D model, could be a better way toward persistent worlds, than
| the models trained on games.
|
| I wonder how well typical render farm could run a model like
| this.
| abraxas wrote:
| What's the technical underpinning of this? Is this a novel prompt
| to 3D technique or is this a user interface on something
| preexisting?
| wincy wrote:
| I'd hazard a guess that this is using the Microsoft Trellis [0]
| open source project released last week. You can download the
| weights and the code right now, just need an Nvidia GPU with at
| least 16GB vram.
|
| I saw people doing this manually on X last Friday, using FLUX
| diffusion model -> Trellis -> Blender
|
| [0] https://trellis3d.github.io/
| bogwog wrote:
| I thought the exact same thing, especially considering how
| bare bones the site/app is. It's as if someone rushed to turn
| that into a subscription-based app as quickly as possible.
|
| I wouldn't even be surprised if the app itself was AI
| generated!
| tosmatos wrote:
| Yeah I figure it's that too. When you look at the miniature
| generated before the actual 3D model, it looks like something
| generated with another tool which is fed to the 3D generation
| AI.
| xnx wrote:
| Yes. Creator confirms:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42400537
| m3kw9 wrote:
| I thought it was a demo, but when I put in a prompt, it popped up
| with a hand asking for money first. I'm not paying without trying
| it out first.
| doener wrote:
| "I am quite suspicious of this project. In particular I want to
| draw attention to the nonsensical naming scheme (this is clearly
| not related to anything to do with GPT) suggestive of lack of
| understanding of the relevant technology, an absence of a usable
| demo, and the fact that they show the same small handful of
| models over and over again. The input images do not appear
| natural at all - almost as though he's just taken the 3d models
| he's supposed to be ,,generating" and rendered them in Blender.
| The quality of the models and the resulting PBR textures are
| extremely high, with no noticeable imperfections whatsoever. This
| is not impossible... but all of these things combined lead me to
| be very sceptical of this service. I will believe it when I see
| it!"
|
| https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1gk8x5j/blende...
| Pikamander2 wrote:
| > In particular I want to draw attention to the nonsensical
| naming scheme (this is clearly not related to anything to do
| with GPT)
|
| That particular part doesn't mean much.
|
| The name "ChatGPT" has become a new and exciting name like
| "Google" was in the early 2000s, so people are latching onto it
| for marketing purposes. The techical accuracy of a name doesn't
| really matter if it helps you attract new customers.
|
| But even so, the tool could still be junk and/or a scam.
| mrtksn wrote:
| I just tried it, there's a demo and works as advertised. I had
| 3 credits upon signing up, tried uploading a photo of a cup and
| it created the model of the cup.
|
| Then I created a figurine of Trump and a model of Galata Tower.
|
| Check it out:
| https://a.dropoverapp.com/cloud/download/395da02b-874d-441c-...
|
| I'm very surprised by all the negativity in the comments, some
| kid created a tool that's working as advertised and even gives
| a free demo. What am I missing here? Why are so many people are
| acting as if this is a scam? The tool isn't asking anything
| more than one click sign up using Google, takes you straight to
| the UI where you spend your free credits instantly.
| griomnib wrote:
| Oh, if they had YC backing I'm sure half the people here
| would be sending in job applications.
| hirako2000 wrote:
| It's the disingenuous marks on the whole thing.
|
| Using the trademark of a very popular 3d software, coupling
| it with a very popular product name from the biggest AI corp
| in the world.
|
| And not mentioning it's a wrapper over a model so new that
| it's easy to assume this commercial product is innovative
| (other than the design of a UI over a service).
|
| Even if there was nothing illegal (there is on the trademark
| infringement), calling it a scam would be a stretch but the
| author has forfeited its ethical right to be treated gently.
| mrtksn wrote:
| It's a product that works as advertised and has a name that
| describes exactly what it does. OpenAI was denied the right
| to register GPT as a trademark anyway, for Blender, yeah
| maybe but that's up to Blender to defend. It's not
| pretending to be the Blender software but a tool for it, so
| it's not causing a confusion.
|
| And as for the innovation part... Kind of irrelevant, 99%
| of "tech" is built on creating a UI for a process. What's
| Uber or AirBnB for example? A GUI over a database to keep
| records of a marketplace.
| MisterTea wrote:
| I'm holding out for BenderGPT. Cant wait till my computer can
| insult me, steal my wallet, then go boozin and whorin.
| gd3kr wrote:
| Hey HN! I'm aarya (twitter.com/gd3kr) and I built BlenderGPT
|
| Really overwhelmed with the traffic, will be defaulting to a less
| compute intensive model for a bit. Will try to keep up with this
| thread and respond to questions/comments but mostly focused on
| not letting BlenderGPT crash.
|
| BlenderGPT is entirely bootstrapped and i'm really the only one
| on the team. Also, The required google sign in is only put in
| place to prevent botting/account creation abuse which is really
| not ideal when dealing with expensive GPU associated compute
| costs while generating every model.
|
| I hope you have fun with it! DM me on twitter if you enjoy it and
| would like more credits to try it out.
| fourside wrote:
| Sorry to sound like a party pooper but this project gives off
| strong "fake it till you make it" vibes. Most AI projects I've
| seen share some type of information on how they work, yet this
| is completely devoid of it. Is this a new approach to mesh
| generation or is it using existing tooling? Then you've got the
| "we think it's really good" line when it's really just you.
| Like, why the hand waviness, the use of "GPT" when it doesn't
| apply. There's just something a bit off about this. Maybe it's
| all fine but the the lack of information doesn't help.
| 9rx wrote:
| _> Like, why the hand waviness, the use of "GPT" when it
| doesn't apply._
|
| While recognizing your earlier complaint of not having
| details of how it works, is there some reason to think it
| doesn't work using a generative pre-trained transformer? If
| we had to make an assumption about how it works, that would
| be my assumption. It is the go-to tool for these types of
| problems.
| gd3kr wrote:
| Understandable. For context, the GPT in the name comes from
| an earlier version of this project
| (https://github.com/gd3kr/blendergpt) which actually used
| GPT-4 to write python scripts that Blender would then
| execute. This would allow GPT-4 to program operations like
| instantiating primitives with the Blender Python API given
| only a text prompt (ex. "create 50 cubes")
|
| The new version of BlenderGPT (lets call this v2) doesn't use
| an any autoregressive token prediction for the actual mesh
| generation part, so I understand why it sounds dishonest. I
| really just chose to stick with the name because artists
| really didn't seem to care about how the meshes are
| generated, and the term GPT became closely associated with
| AI.
|
| As for the technical stuff, I've been working on BlenderGPT
| v2 for the past several months, and until a week ago, i had
| been using a custom pipeline I built borrowing and re-
| implementing bits of Unique3D
| (https://wukailu.github.io/Unique3D/) and combining it with
| optimized models (flow matching diffusion models etc) for
| intermediate steps (text to image generation). My
| optimizations reduced inference time from >2 minutes to only
| about 20 seconds. This is the model used in this demo i
| shared: https://x.com/gd3kr/status/1853645054721606100
|
| And then Microsoft released Trellis
| (https://github.com/microsoft/TRELLIS), and it seemed to
| leapfrog my model's capabilities on most things. Integrating
| it into the pipeline wasn't too hard and so I went forward
| with it.
|
| All of this is just to say that there really was a lot of
| effort put into the core pipeline, and the landing page was
| mostly an afterthought. Actively working on a more
| comprehensive one that covers all the points I talked about.
| simonw wrote:
| What did you use for the 2D loading images? This one is
| really nice: https://blendergptv2-jobs.s3.us-
| east-2.amazonaws.com/generat...
| conductr wrote:
| lol at the gearing on the front wheel and the whole frame
| being backwards. Also no pedals or crank arms, the
| artwork is quite nice though
| xnx wrote:
| Have you never seen a front-wheel drive rear-steer mono-
| pedal bike before? /s
| pseudosavant wrote:
| The backwards drivetrain/steering is kind of fascinating
| to consider. I'd love to see someone like Colin Furze or
| Stuff Made Here actually make one to try it out. What
| would it be like to ride a bike that steered by pivoting
| the back wheel?
| ossobuco wrote:
| The problem with Trellis is that it insists on generating
| textures that are already illuminated. Is there a way to
| exclude lighting?
| knowitnone wrote:
| why does it matter how it works? Either it works and people
| pay for it or it doesn't. Does every company owe you, the end
| user, an explanation on how their product works? While you're
| at it, maybe you can get all the secret recipes.
| rvz wrote:
| > why does it matter how it works?
|
| So we don't get another Theranos grift if this eventually
| raises money from private investors?
| rco8786 wrote:
| Big difference since this product appears to demonstrate
| that it does work.
| brailsafe wrote:
| Well, because we're curious and this is a place where
| curious critical technology enthusiasts gravitate. If it
| doesn't do anything novel _at_all_ or if there's no story
| to elaborate on, go to Reddit.
|
| Plus, many are probably tired of seeing the same thing
| being made repeatedly that just proxys requests to chatgpt
| and makes them look pretty.
| lm28469 wrote:
| > why does it matter how it works? Either it works and
| people pay for it or it doesn't.
|
| It's hackernews, not aliexpress
| ilaksh wrote:
| I think that's a fair point that not every company owes the
| end user a recipe for how to reproduce their product.
|
| However, it's also a fair question on Hacker News. Again,
| fair if they chose not to answer it.. but many people here
| are programmers.
|
| Since they explained that they used an open source model
| and system https://github.com/Microsoft/TRELLIS, it will be
| possible for other developers who want to start similar
| businesses to launch basic competitors within a week or so,
| if they are ambitious about it.
|
| I spent about 10 minutes with my agent running Claude 3.5
| Sonnet New and generated most of the core code already:
| https://github.com/runvnc/img2blender
|
| Although I haven't tested that and don't actually know if
| it will work.
| sambaumann wrote:
| Is this based on trellis?
| xnx wrote:
| That seems to be the main part of it:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42400537
| mrtksn wrote:
| Cool tool, the models I created were a bit crude though. Is
| there a way to increase details? Is prompting affecting it? For
| example in image generation adding keywords like
| "photorealistic, octane, HD" helps. Is this the case in this
| tool too?
|
| Also, I'm curious on how this works? It appears that when you
| use a text prompt it first generates an image thumbnail of the
| model. Is it first creating an image from propmpt and then
| running this image to create the 3D model?
| deskr wrote:
| Nice work. It would be good to have examples (images, models
| and their prompt) on the front page. That might also lessen the
| load a bit.
| 999900000999 wrote:
| This is much better than I expected.
|
| I first asked it to generate "The last MC left" and it crested
| a 3rd model of a microphone.
|
| Not winning any awards, but it's a decent model I could imagine
| a professional using as a template ( also works for props in
| the background).
|
| The I asked it to generate "Heavy D and the Boy's"( RIP to
| Heavy D) and it tried to generate models of a rap group, the
| face textures aren't great.
|
| Maybe add a disclaimer saying what you generate well and what
| you don't. Looks like a cool prototyping tool. Thank you for
| sharing
| ur-whale wrote:
| This is fun!!
|
| I made a thing, here's the prompt:
|
| coffee mug with "I AM THE BOSS" written very large and
| horizontally on the side. Cup must hold 75 cl of liquid.
|
| Funny thing: the tiny icon has the correct words, but the final
| object has something unreadable on the side.
|
| Very nice work anyhow!
| jstummbillig wrote:
| Fantastic! 3D Modeling is such labor intensive high skill work,
| and tools like this will raise the floor by a ton.
|
| It's exciting to think about everything that's going to become
| possible in the coming years.
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| The name is unacceptable. I literally thought this was a
| project by Blender. You are asking to get sued to oblivion.
| meiraleal wrote:
| will it? It has the potential to bring so many users to
| Blender. That would be stupid.
| Diti wrote:
| Trademark laws mandate that you need to enforce your
| trademark if you want to keep it. So, yes, they will sue.
| Tomte wrote:
| No, they will write a letter first.
| richardlblair wrote:
| This guy lawsuits
| AJ007 wrote:
| The trademark application should/will not be approved.
| This would be like naming yourself "DisneyGPT"
| tags2k wrote:
| "Unacceptable"? Pretty hyperbolic response. I mean, they
| could just call it BlendGPT instead and nobody would be able
| to say a thing.
| TheRealPomax wrote:
| You may need to rename it, though, as this is not an official
| Blender project. [1]
|
| Even if "Blender" wasn't an officially trademarked name (which
| it is, in both the US _and_ EU), standing on the shoulders of
| Open Source also means respecting their rules when it comes to
| using a project 's name to market your own creation.
|
| (Unless you asked for, and received, permission of course. In
| which case that's something you'll want to mention on the
| landing page so folks know you did the right thing)
|
| [1] https://www.blender.org/about/logo/#trademark
| andrewmcwatters wrote:
| I know it won't hit the same if you change its name, but like
| the others here, I really would recommend that you come up with
| some new product name. Additionally, the glyph you're looking
| for is (tm), not (r), if you're not registered with the United
| States Patent and Trademark Office.
|
| It seems like you're doing a great job, and these are some low
| hanging fruit you can address just to make sure you're not
| violating trademark law.
| pbhjpbhj wrote:
| You can use (r) for registration in other countries/regions
| too. In UK/EU it's not registered until the end of the
| opposition period.
|
| GPT and Blender are both generic terms, unless the
| combination is already being used or is registered then it
| appears - and of course this is not legal advice - that there
| is no infringement.
|
| Indeed I think registration of GPT before USPTO has been
| refused because it is generic.
|
| You might be breaching contract, assuming you're using
| ChatGPT behind the scenes, no idea; in theory they could
| require you not to use GPT in your product name.
|
| Of course, being in the right is not enough.
| Companies/organisations can still go after you.
| jolmg wrote:
| https://www.blender.org/about/logo/
|
| > Blender has been registered as a trademark by Blender
| Foundation in USA and EU. It has been used by Blender
| Foundation since 2002, and it's a well recognized brand
| now. Although the name 'Blender' is a generic word (for a
| mixer), in the context of products or company names related
| to software it's protected by trademark law.
| ascorbic wrote:
| GPT is generic. Blender is not, unless you're talking about
| kitchen equipment.
| kuczmama wrote:
| This is awesome! Thank you for building this.
| yuvalr1 wrote:
| Hi aarya!
|
| A really amazing project. I would really love using this tool,
| and other GenAI tools to generate art. There is one recurring
| problem that I don't know the answer to: how could I know that
| no one is going to sue me for using this kind of tool for
| copyright infringement? How can I know that the model I
| generate is not too similar or copying some artist's style
| somewhere?
| doctorpangloss wrote:
| Adobe offers indemnity. You're welcome to use their tools.
| ronsor wrote:
| Not OP, but the answers are:
|
| 1. People can sue you for any reason, whether legitimate or
| not, regardless of what you do
|
| 2. Copying style is not copyright infringement, as copyright
| does not cover style
| CobrastanJorji wrote:
| I want something a little related to this. I want a little auto
| assist tool in Blender so I can hit a keyboard shortcut, circle
| something, and say "extrude a square right around this area" or
| "close this mesh" or "make this shell a solid object." Stuff
| that an experienced Blender artist knows exactly how to do but
| might require some thinking. In other words, coding auto-assist
| for Blender user. Bonus points if it shows the steps.
|
| Is that a thing?
| EA wrote:
| It generates a mobius strip that looks like a pill.
| mattigames wrote:
| Now we just need startupGPT so we can make those pesky startup
| founders redundant too!
| rqtwteye wrote:
| It's going to happen. It will move up the chain until it
| replaces the really powerful people. Replacing them will
| obviously be made illegal.
| GrantMoyer wrote:
| Is BlenderGPT really a registered trademark?
|
| Surely it infringes on Blender's (unregistered) trademark, but
| maybe the registration process only reviews exisiting registered
| marks, and it'd be up to the Blender Foundation to challenge the
| use of BlenderGPT. On the other hand, the USPTO trademark search
| didn't turn up any relevant results for BlenderGPT even though
| the terms of service on the site seem to indicate a US based
| company.
| TheRealPomax wrote:
| "Unregistered"? Blender is a registered trademark in both the
| US _and_ the EU. Their brand guideline page explicitly calls
| out that you are not allowed to use their name in your own
| product: https://www.blender.org/about/logo/#trademark
| GrantMoyer wrote:
| Oh, huh. I assumed it was not registered since Blender uses
| "(tm)" instead of "(r)" at the top of its homepage. I guess
| that's just for the logo then, not the wordmark.
| cbartlett wrote:
| Blender is a registered trademark, I'm pretty sure this has
| nothing to do with blender. I'm not sure GPT is safe or even
| correct either.
| para_parolu wrote:
| Bestbuy is full of equipment with Blender in name. How they do
| it?
| cbartlett wrote:
| Because trademarks are categorised
| isaacimagine wrote:
| Trademark does not apply for unrelated goods.
|
| See: https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/search/likelihood-
| confusion
| archerx wrote:
| They are not related to software or computer graphics.
| griomnib wrote:
| They aren't software, Blender foundation likely has exclusive
| use in that domain. I'm guessing if it was litigated it would
| come up, but that they'd prevail.
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| And this is not even just about software in a general
| sense, it's literally software that creates the same
| product: 3d models. Absolutely asking for trouble.
| hirako2000 wrote:
| And trained on models that for a large part were made in
| Blender.
| ben_w wrote:
| Same way Tesco gets to be full of apples without a licence
| from the record company or the phone company with an attached
| computer division.
| staticman2 wrote:
| The fact that the trademark doesn't merely describe the
| product is what allows for protection. That's why Apple can
| be trademarked for a computer product but not for a fruit, as
| the latter would be merely a description of the product.
| ec109685 wrote:
| GPT trademark was rejected:
| https://www.saul.com/insights/alert/what-gpt-and-who-owns-it
| syntaxing wrote:
| Or you can use the free and open source addon from Hugginface
| themselves and runs locally...
| https://github.com/huggingface/meshgen
| porphyra wrote:
| Yeah but a finished textured model is quite different from a
| low-poly untextured model even though the llama meshgen
| approach is quite interesting and promising.
| xnx wrote:
| Anyone interested in this type of thing should check out the free
| and open source TRELLIS:
| https://huggingface.co/spaces/JeffreyXiang/TRELLIS
|
| Upload an image and it outputs a 3D model.
|
| Use a separate image generator to make a model of anything you
| can imagine.
| vunderba wrote:
| Trellis is very impressive (topology notwithstanding). I put
| some examples together of what Trellis can do, it's definitely
| better with angular type models (vehicles, etc.), but
| unsurprisingly can struggle a bit with more organic forms.
|
| https://imgur.com/a/trellis-2d-3d-samples-eSWJhMj
| lasermatts wrote:
| I fed TRELLIS an image of the left side of my Vespa, and it
| correctly (mostly) added exhaust on the other side.
|
| Super, super cool to see -- really hyped for what this means
| for 3D representations!
| bangaladore wrote:
| I took a masked image of a tank from a game, in a perspective
| format, presumably the best case for these models.
|
| Trellis did far worse than BlenderGPT. Particularly Trellis
| tends to have little to no detail with nearly black texturing
| in the parts that are "hardest" to imagine.
|
| Somewhat interesting as this seems to use Trellis under the
| hood, but again, this did a substantially better job.
| Nightloaf wrote:
| To everyone in this thread criticizing their project, what have
| you built and shared recently? Have you contributed anything to
| HN lately besides negativity?
| adroitboss wrote:
| Is this just a wrapper around the Microsoft project released a
| few days ago? https://trellis3d.github.io/
| xnx wrote:
| That seems to be the main part of it:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42400537
| romanovcode wrote:
| Yeah, that's why the website is so barebones.
| heyheyhouhou wrote:
| Just FYI you should avoid using the name Blender in your product
|
| From https://www.blender.org/about/logo/
|
| "In short - if you want to start a company or website related to
| Blender services, avoid using the name Blender in it. You can use
| it as a secondary tagline though - such as "Awesome Company Inc.,
| the Blender specialists". Same goes for forks of the Blender
| software, give it a new name and create a unique brand that way.
| The latter is also enforced by the GNU GPL, which explicitly
| excludes brand names from the freedom."
| btbuildem wrote:
| Could do without the frantic animation, whatever that is for.
| simonw wrote:
| It did quite well on my "a pelican riding a bicycle" test:
| https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2024/a-pelican-ridin...
|
| The 2D loading indicator it showed me was even better!
| https://blendergptv2-jobs.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/generat... -
| anyone know what BlenderGPT uses for that? Might be FLUX or
| similar.
| vunderba wrote:
| It's likely FLUX.
|
| https://imgur.com/a/BBMHMZA
| idiocache wrote:
| Kid's getting way too much hate for what seems to be quite a cool
| project! Oh he "just" put a UI in front of Trellis? Yes. He did.
| You didn't.
|
| Keep up the good work, gd3kr :)
| ramon156 wrote:
| I get your point, but it's annoying because the creator didn't
| specify this anywhere. If you look at a project like CodeBuff,
| its explained what the tool is made with.
|
| OP didn't even check the Blender licensing, why would I respect
| such a barbones attempt at a project? At least be honest that
| it's just an interface with trellis.
| vunderba wrote:
| _Give me a break._
|
| The site's ad copy: "BlenderGPT is an advanced artificial
| intelligence program that creates 3D models from text or image
| prompts in ~20 seconds. It lets you synthesise fully textured
| meshes, then import directly to Blender with a shortcut or
| download the source files for use in any compatible software.
| We think it's really good, try it out for free now."
|
| It's very deliberately posing itself as having their own
| proprietary algorithm, as opposed to just a wrapper around
| TRELLIS, whose team did the real work. There's nothing wrong
| with that, but not giving any credit or mention to the trellis
| team is in poor taste.
| pixelpoet wrote:
| You even fixed their typo on "its".
| pkkkzip wrote:
| I can definitely see why people were upset but I think they
| are reading a bit too much into it. We all know its a wrapper
| now but makes little to no difference in reality.
|
| What I'm more disappointed in is that BlenderGPT aka TRELLIS
| is still not capable of producing truly segmented 3d mesh.
| The generated output is simply just a blob and not capable of
| replacing actual 3d modelers (yet).
|
| I've already seen so many claims of being able to generate 3D
| but they have fallen short of expectation (including
| BlenderGPT/TRELLIS). Without segmentation, mesh
| optimizations, there is limited use.
|
| We are so close but because everybody is chasing investment
| dollars they gloss over the ugly bits and even after 20
| months of watching this space there has been little progress.
|
| The true golden chalice of 3d mesh generation is a fully
| segmented, optimized mesh, UV texture map/material generation
| and pre-rigged. It appears we are far far away from it still
| as many FANG/Deepmind or large game engines should be the
| first.
|
| Unfortunately until then we are stuck with investor dollar
| grift wrappers on open source products. Not just in 3D but
| across all domains that AI touches.
| bn-l wrote:
| I didn't know until reading the comments
| latenightcoding wrote:
| Nah, this shouldn't be on the front page. Blender is a
| registered trademark (I only clicked because I thought it was
| project from the Blender team) and OP is not transparent about
| this just being a wrapper.
| Fauntleroy wrote:
| Using "Blender" when not associated with "Blender" at all is a
| huge dick move.
| xnx wrote:
| Making a thing and sharing it is definitely worth supporting.
|
| Obvious credit should be given to the source of the core
| functionality of the project (e.g. "Powered by TRELLIS") and
| using "Blender" in the name was a bad idea.
| halyconWays wrote:
| It only allows sign-up with Google. No thank you :(
| FactKnower69 wrote:
| any relation whatsoever to Blender? any relation whatsoever to
| generative pretrained transformers? at all??
| JustBreath wrote:
| At some point Scribblenauts 3D is going to be one hell of a game.
| sourcepluck wrote:
| Echoing other sentiment to say: I agree with others who believe
| it's a majorly crappy move, with the name. Immediately suspicious
| of any project capable of such childish attention-grabbing!
| ravenstine wrote:
| So... I am I seeing things, or can I only sign up using a Google
| account?
| owenpalmer wrote:
| I'm sorry but this is misleading on so many levels. This has
| nothing to do with Blender or GPT, and it's just Trellis under
| the hood.
| causi wrote:
| AI-generated modeling is such a fun concept. If you want to pee
| yourself laughing, ask ChatGPT to generate SCAD files of things
| like animals or everyday objects.
| CivBase wrote:
| Very cool, but I don't think I understand the pricing.
|
| $20/mo gets me 50 credits/mo, but I can buy 50 credits at any
| time for just $10? Sounds like the subscription is asking me to
| pay double for the same number of credits.
| ceroxylon wrote:
| It's cool and useful for granular editing, but tools like Kling,
| Sora, and Runway will make this step irrelevant in the next few
| years, in my opinion.
| ilaksh wrote:
| Since they explained that they used an open source model and
| system https://github.com/Microsoft/TRELLIS, it will be possible
| for other developers who want to start similar businesses to
| launch basic competitors within a week or so, if they are
| ambitious about it.
|
| I spent about 10 minutes with my agent running Claude 3.5 Sonnet
| New and generated most of the core code already:
| https://github.com/runvnc/img2blender
|
| Although I haven't tested that and don't actually know if it will
| work.
| mnky9800n wrote:
| What agent do you run
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