[HN Gopher] AI Guesses Your Accent
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       AI Guesses Your Accent
        
       Author : mikpanko
       Score  : 99 points
       Date   : 2024-12-11 19:54 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (start.boldvoice.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (start.boldvoice.com)
        
       | belval wrote:
       | It's fun but as I tested it I realized how this is pretty much
       | the modern equivalent of a Facebook quiz that asks you the name
       | of your first pet, first car and mother's maiden name.
       | 
       | If they recorded any of that they likely have enough to clone my
       | voice somewhat faithfully.
       | 
       | Congratulations on labelling my French Canadian accent as French
       | though, I'll have to work on my pronounciation more to fool the
       | AI.
        
         | interloxia wrote:
         | It would be nice if they were clear they wouldn't keep the
         | sample on the page. They do have a privacy policy on their main
         | site www.boldvoice.com/privacy
         | 
         | It didn't guess for me other than to say I was a native
         | speaker.
        
         | insane_dreamer wrote:
         | French Canadian and France French accents are very different,
         | so if the AI couldn't tell the difference, that doesn't speak
         | well for it
        
           | belval wrote:
           | Does it regionalize at all? There are a few comments about
           | Portugal Portuguese vs Brazil Portuguese so I think it only
           | tries to find your first language, not actually pinpoint the
           | underlying accent.
        
       | imalerba wrote:
       | Fell for it. 90% czech, 10% polish. Nothing further from the
       | reality. I guess it just geolocates by IP?
        
         | jay_kyburz wrote:
         | Don't think so, couldn't pick my Australian accent from here in
         | Australia.
         | 
         | I'll go back and lay it on real thick and see if it does
         | better.
        
           | madeofpalk wrote:
           | I think we both misunderstood.
           | 
           | > You sound like a native English speaker. I couldn't
           | identify any distinct non-native accent.
           | 
           | I am a native English speaker, with an Australian accent. I
           | think it's supposed to identify your non-english-native
           | accent, which you wouldn't have one being Australian.
        
         | markerz wrote:
         | Doubt it. I'm traveling in Hawaii right now and am Chinese-
         | American who can speak Spanish, but it labeled me as
         | Hindi/Urdu.
        
           | imalerba wrote:
           | So I picked up the Czech accent but not the language, dang.
        
         | WithinReason wrote:
         | guessed 100% czech for me as well, wrongly
        
         | glandium wrote:
         | I'm in Japan, it correctly detected French. Can't be much
         | further away geolocation wise.
        
         | guytv wrote:
         | worked 100% identifying my accent
        
       | evan_ wrote:
       | Interesting, I was hoping it would be more specific than
       | "English" (e.g. "Southern Illinois"), but I'm sure that's just
       | around the corner. It looks like this is an advertisement for a
       | product to "lose" your accent, so as long as you sound like a
       | native English-speaker they're happy.
       | 
       | I tried again using an outrageously bad (probably to the point of
       | offense) Scottish brogue and it pegged it as German.
        
         | M3L0NM4N wrote:
         | A part of my family is from rural southern Illinois. There is
         | certainly an accent, and not a pretty one.
        
       | mp3il wrote:
       | Awesome growth move, love it
        
       | sneeze-slayer wrote:
       | Seems pretty bad. I tried it and got 99% Dutch but have never
       | lived in the Netherlands.
        
       | goshx wrote:
       | I guess I don't have my native language's accent (which I tend to
       | hear from native English speakers).
       | 
       | It guessed Hebrew. My native language is Portuguese.
        
         | xeckr wrote:
         | It guessed Hebrew for me too when I was going for a German
         | accent do caralho.
        
         | leo3567 wrote:
         | I think it's trained on Brazilian Portuguese. Although I have
         | lived in the UK for the last 10 years, it got it right every
         | single time.
        
       | satoqz wrote:
       | Well, as a German native speaker I'm quite satisfied that I can
       | trick it into thinking I'm English :)
        
         | loevborg wrote:
         | Not me, I came out as 98% German. Oh well, I just need to own
         | it!
        
           | tetha wrote:
           | 95% german, 5% dutch. Guess I can't stop schnacking on platt
           | to some degree.
           | 
           | Though this is raising the fun question: What makes a german
           | accent in english? Harsh consonants? Is there some wiki or
           | some articles to read up on that?
        
       | ltbarcly3 wrote:
       | I tried it and it guessed correctly, but it can only guess
       | between native and non-native accents. It can't guess "chicago"
       | or something.
        
       | andoando wrote:
       | Holy shit. I grew up in Armenia when I was 8 and been in the US
       | for 22 years, and by all accounts English is my primary language,
       | and this got it spot on, with 84% confidence. Was not expecting
       | that for such a unknown accent.
       | 
       | I am guessing this was not trained on a dataset of people
       | speaking English in various accents, but rather is directly
       | detecting your native language.
        
         | 3nwf248 wrote:
         | I don't know, I'm Parska-Hye and came here when I was 9. I got
         | 43% German, 23% English, 22% Hindu.
        
           | andoando wrote:
           | To be fair, parka-hye dialect is even more esoteric. I am
           | guessing this was trained on eastern armniean
        
       | rougka wrote:
       | AI fingerprints your voice and sells it to ad companies
        
         | DAGdug wrote:
         | What does this mean - could you elaborate on what you mean by
         | ad companies and how they would use voice data?
        
           | jl6 wrote:
           | Probably should be read as "bad actors", who, with enough
           | samples of your voice, could theoretically do shady things
           | like robo-call your mom, pretending to be you.
        
             | DAGdug wrote:
             | Okay, that's pretty different from ad companies. I've
             | worked in the ads space and what the poster mentioned
             | doesn't apply in any manner, AFAIK.
        
               | rougka wrote:
               | it's a joke, but it's not inconceivable that chatbots
               | which support voice like chatgpt will use voice
               | fingerprinting for ads
        
         | anadalakra wrote:
         | Not true - from the makers :)
        
           | jayavanth wrote:
           | do you store the recordings on your server?
        
             | layer8 wrote:
             | Probably on someone else's servers.
        
           | rougka wrote:
           | sorry, could not help myself :)
        
         | ks2048 wrote:
         | I'm not sure about that, but it is a good way to collect data
         | on different accents.
        
       | vidarh wrote:
       | It guesses Swedish for me. I'm Norwegian. While they have some
       | similar quirks, like sounding "sing-song-y" to a lot of native
       | English speakers, Swedish and Norwegian English accents are
       | usually quite distinguishable from each other.
       | 
       | Given our (good-natured) neighbor-rivalry I'm of course horribly
       | offended.
        
       | yandie wrote:
       | I've a very mixed accent and it just pretty much throw a random
       | country in SE Asia (correct region) with different tries.
        
       | world2vec wrote:
       | Not even close, top 3 are geographically all on the other side of
       | Europe. Nice try.
        
       | personalityson wrote:
       | It guessed right, but it does not go by the accent, but by
       | pronunciation of certain consonants. You can fake/simulate the
       | former, but not the latter.
        
       | brap wrote:
       | When I intentionally spoke in my native accent (which is not
       | something I normally do), it guessed it with 100% confidence,
       | even though it's not very common. Impressive.
       | 
       | When I spoke like I normally do, it wasn't able to get anything
       | on the first try, and on the second attempt it guessed 3 very
       | different accents (e.g. Danish, Persian, ...) with more or less
       | equal confidence. But it didn't guess my native accent at all.
       | 
       | Huh, I always thought I sound almost American. Looks like my
       | accent is untraceable at best.
        
       | keybored wrote:
       | I did a sing-songy Swedish impression and it got that right.
        
       | jmdelatorre wrote:
       | It guessed Spanish but I was expecting Chilean Spanish which is
       | very different from your other Spanishes around the world.
        
       | joshuamcginnis wrote:
       | Did I just train a spam bot to use my voice?
        
       | tartoran wrote:
       | This tool works pretty well, it guessed me right as well as few
       | of my coworkers who are from a different parts of the world and
       | none of us have obvious accents. This is scary good but I'm
       | afraid privacy will be impossible in the future, we'll be
       | analyzed and categorized instantly. The only barrier to
       | completely losing privacy is our own thoughts.
        
       | jampa wrote:
       | I knew my accent was strong, but I didn't expect to get 100%
       | Portuguese, which is strange since Portuguese from Portugal
       | sounds more like Eastern Europe, and Portuguese Brazil is more
       | like Spanish. Maybe it considers both accents to be Portuguese?
       | 
       | A fun fact: When using Whisper by OpenAI, there seems to be a ~1%
       | chance that all my text, which was spoken entirely in English, is
       | automatically transcribed and translated into pt-BR without any
       | prompting. It happens more often when I am not paying too much
       | attention to pronunciation.
       | 
       | The weird thing is that all the words were transcribed correctly
       | (beyond being entirely in a different language)
        
       | specproc wrote:
       | Didn't get my farm-Brummie.
        
       | dboreham wrote:
       | Hmm. I was expecting something that can differentiate between
       | Stirling and Dunblane. Based on the comments it seems no.
        
       | nu11ptr wrote:
       | Not very good guesses. It had me read twice and I used a high
       | quality mic. It guessed Spanish as my native language, but picked
       | up a bit of Chinese and a bit of English. I am a native born
       | American whose only language is English and a life long
       | Midwesterner. I have a midwestern accent and occasionally some
       | Canadian influences sneaks in (or so people have told me), but
       | Spanish/Chinese? Completely wrong.
        
         | RajT88 wrote:
         | I had the same thing happen! 83% English, 3% Spanish, 2%
         | Chinese.
         | 
         | I am super midwestern, lived here all my life. I didn't realize
         | I was saying "ope" until I saw a meme about it.
        
       | bkovacev wrote:
       | I'm genuinely surprised it got my accent right. Coming from
       | Serbia, I'd never expect to get it right. My first guess was that
       | it's geo-ip based, but I could be wrong.
        
         | jcmp wrote:
         | a lot of my international friends tried it form the same german
         | wifi and it got all right :)
        
       | itsadok wrote:
       | The app this is advertising helps non-native speakers with their
       | accent, I assume to sound more American. This is a great goal,
       | and I'm sure there are a lot of people who would be willing to
       | pay the $200-$300 yearly subscription cost. Apparently the AI
       | part is not even the main function of the app, that's what the
       | extra $100 are paying for[1].
       | 
       | I would be interested in an AI-only product that would help me
       | learn to passably immitate various English accents, like
       | Australian, Irish and so forth, for fun. I know that ChatGPT
       | Voice can do accents pretty well, I've been wondering if it would
       | also be able to help me with mine, but I haven't tried it
       | seriously.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.boldvoice.com/frequently-asked-questions
        
         | keybored wrote:
         | > The app this is advertising helps non-native speakers with
         | their accent, I assume to sound more American.
         | 
         | Do people want to learn to speak English like a twangy guitar
         | on purpose?
        
         | elmerfud wrote:
         | I could absolutely see people be willing to pay for this. I am
         | from the Midwest in the United States and I happened to be at
         | an airport in some foreign country. Someone else heard me
         | talking and they came up and asked me where I learned to speak
         | English because it was so smooth. They were looking to get
         | lessons to make their English better or at least more smooth. I
         | thought their English was fine and they were a bit disappointed
         | when I mentioned I was from the United States.
        
         | psb wrote:
         | I would pay for an equivalent app that helped my German
         | pronunciation
        
           | glandium wrote:
           | I would be interested in an equivalent app for Japanese.
        
         | glandium wrote:
         | It's kind of annoying when services like this provide a free
         | trial that you have to give a credit card number to even try,
         | capitalizing on people forgetting to unsubscribe after trying.
         | 
         | Also, I'm very suspicious when a credit card form is on
         | $site.com rather than $financial-institution.com
        
       | kyleblarson wrote:
       | Would be cool if it could detect area specific accents. I grew up
       | in Kentucky and tried it in a very thick Eastern KY accent and it
       | just said native english speaker. (technically true) Here's what
       | it sounds like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB8vHRH9A6M
        
       | xyst wrote:
       | this is the gen z/gen alpha equivalent of those "useless"
       | personality surveys.
       | 
       | stop feeding these companies your data.
        
         | noncoml wrote:
         | Bold voice is an app for improving your accent. This makes a
         | case for a legitimate publicity stunt.
        
       | delduca wrote:
       | In my case, it said twice that it was Portuguese, but it's wrong,
       | it should be Brazilian. :-)
        
       | stuckkeys wrote:
       | Tried it. You know for science. Told me 99% Russian. WRONG! I
       | guess, "Good luck" to you Bryan Mills.
        
       | souvlakee wrote:
       | 100% russian, sad.
        
       | felipelalli wrote:
       | <<Your accent is Persian my friend. I identified your accent
       | based on subtle details in your pronunciation. Listen to your
       | audio, and bask in my predictive abilities.>> --- Wrong, my
       | friend! I'm Brazilian and I speak Portuguese.
        
       | tristor wrote:
       | This was less interesting than I was hoping for, because it
       | wasn't specific. It said I don't have a non-native English
       | accent. Great, I already knew that. But I'm curious if it could
       | place my regional accent in the United States. I'm originally
       | from the Southern Midwest which has a distinct accent, but have
       | made a great effort to neutralize my accent and believe I now
       | sound neutrally American (what used to be called Nebraska
       | Newscaster).
       | 
       | Sounds like others tried and had similar results (not identifying
       | Australian or Irish accents).
        
       | jackdawed wrote:
       | This was a big confidence booster for me as when I first started
       | learning English, people would complement me on how well I spoke
       | English, but I took that as my accent was still detectable. It's
       | only been in the past 5 years that people assumed I was American
       | and made no comment on my English at all, until I disclosed that
       | English was my second language. It's usually certain words that
       | give me trouble, like "cupboard" or "chef". The AI detected my
       | accent as a mixture of German and English. When I tried to
       | exaggerate my accent, it correctly detected Thai.
        
         | shusaku wrote:
         | It's funny because an app like this is probably more
         | entertaining if it gets the wrong answer!
        
         | create-username wrote:
         | those words are your Shibboleths, words that give your origin
         | away.
         | 
         | When I was in Germany, friendly people used to compliment me on
         | my language skill saying "your German is good!". To which I
         | would reciprocate: "thanks, yours too!"
        
       | donohoe wrote:
       | It told me my accent was Spanish. I'm a native English speaker
       | from Ireland living in NYC :)
        
       | bmitc wrote:
       | Wasn't even close. It suggested a language I do not speak.
        
       | MisterBastahrd wrote:
       | Well, that's a terrible way to market a product. Not only do I
       | not speak Hindi, but I also don't sound like I speak Hindi.
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | ...or so you think. ;)
        
       | rahimnathwani wrote:
       | For me:
       | 
       | English: 91%
       | 
       | Nigerian: 4%
       | 
       | Spanish: 3%
        
       | davidw wrote:
       | My wife is Italian. It guessed Greek.
        
       | chamanbuga wrote:
       | The first guess was shockingly spot on. Tried it again and it
       | thought I was English. Tried it again and it thought I was Dutch.
       | First guess was right though.
        
       | 1317 wrote:
       | quite disappointing, it just said English and nothing else
       | 
       | well yes, but tell me what region!
       | 
       | or _something_ other than just stating the obvious
        
       | anadalakra wrote:
       | Fun to see this in the wild! I'm one of the co-founders of
       | BoldVoice, AMA :) p.s. I'm Albanian and it guesses either
       | Albanian or English for me, sometimes randomly Spanish.
        
         | ks2048 wrote:
         | Doesn't work in Firefox.
         | 
         | Edit: Firefox 133.0. Console shows error giving url:
         | https://react.dev/errors/418?invariant=418
        
           | yorwba wrote:
           | It works in Firefox Nightly (135.0a1) for Android for me,
           | although I have to accept the microphone prompt twice for
           | some reason.
        
           | glandium wrote:
           | Works fine in Firefox 133 here.
        
       | neom wrote:
       | I have a particularly flat affect, apparently due to my autism,
       | this thing could only tell I'm a native english speaker.
        
       | hyperbovine wrote:
       | It gave this native English speaker "Swedish" with p > 90%. Just
       | confirms the feeling I get every time I go to Sweden that they
       | really do speak better English than me.
        
         | thr3000 wrote:
         | Isn't it like 68 degrees today in Minnesota? I guess no one can
         | accuse you of being snowed in and bored ;)
        
       | binary132 wrote:
       | I'd be interested in a version of this that guesses regional
       | American accent backgrounds. I'd like to think it would have a
       | hard time with me.
        
         | anadalakra wrote:
         | Nice suggestion! BoldVoice focuses on helping non-native
         | English speakers to learn the American accent, so we tailored
         | the accent oracle to non-native accents specifically.
        
       | 3836293648 wrote:
       | Speaking normally it identified me as English (seems it just
       | means native and not actually specifically English?). Putting on
       | a Swedish accent it got that too, but if it really picked up
       | subtle details as claimed it should've identified that as English
       | too as I break waaay too often with certain vowels.
       | 
       | I'm surprised it considered my truly awful American native, but
       | it needed two clips to decide that time. And 30% Hindi/Urdu?
       | What?
        
       | oytis wrote:
       | Not quite, but pretty close, I am impressed. I'd say it's doing
       | better than most people at least for me
        
       | throw646577 wrote:
       | Congratulations: you gave someone a standardised sample of your
       | voice they can use in a programmatic scam.
       | 
       | Don't do this.
        
         | sebzim4500 wrote:
         | I don't follow. Why is the data they are getting from this
         | better than the billions of hours of captioned voice data
         | available from youtube/tiktok/instagram/whatever?
        
           | IggleSniggle wrote:
           | Maybe IP correlation?
        
             | throw646577 wrote:
             | That too I guess. And it sets a few cookies.
        
           | throw646577 wrote:
           | I don't mean to suggest that _this_ particular toy is much
           | use. I just mean you should not give random internet games
           | standardised samples of your voice, for this reason.
           | 
           | It's a standardised sample, already correlated to text, close
           | to the microphone, for one thing. You're just making it
           | easier for them.
           | 
           | I mean I suppose you can use "like and subscribe", "without
           | further ado", and "let's get started" as standardised samples
           | if you want to catch a youtuber.
           | 
           | But AFAIK my voice isn't on the internet anywhere. Quite a
           | lot of people are not.
           | 
           | There's a number of ways this information can be connected
           | back, with varying precision, to the person who recorded it.
           | 
           | And we should have learned from the Cambridge Analytica
           | scandal that data is used in ways we do not expect. For
           | example, what if you don't care to reproduce someone's voice,
           | but you do care to extract age/gender/racial
           | background/sexual orientation from it?
        
         | adverbly wrote:
         | Jokes on them. I only tried impressions. It's going to make for
         | some pretty funny programmatic scams!
        
           | throw646577 wrote:
           | I have often wondered how much of someone's actual voice
           | leaks through into their impersonations in a way that can be
           | detected.
           | 
           | I just saw an incredible Facebook reel of a voice actor,
           | Shelby Young, saying the same thing in a striking range of
           | theatrical voices, and I still wonder. How much of her true
           | vocal fingerprint is unavoidably there?
           | 
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNnyeu_kPU
           | 
           | (As a fan of old movies, "Vintage" was particularly
           | impressive to me -- she is impersonating not just voices but
           | also the choice of tonality those actors made in light of
           | recording technology)
        
         | amiga386 wrote:
         | It reminds me of the old Mr T Name Generator
         | (http://brunching.com/mrtname.html)
         | 
         | You enter your First Name, Last Name, Gender, Date of Birth,
         | Pet's Name and Mother's Maiden Name and press the button to
         | find out what your Mr T Name is...
         | 
         | ... Mr T says your name is FOOL
        
           | tln wrote:
           | Ha ha now it prints the CGI source
           | #!/usr/bin/perl             use CGI;        $section =
           | "toys";        $author = "steveb";        $title = "Your Mr.
           | T Name";        $s_title = "mrtname";        $cat1 =
           | "moviestv";        print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
           | require "makehead.pl";        print &MakeHead;        print
           | <<EOFILE;        <P>Your Mr. T name is:</P>        <CENTER><P
           | CLASS="head1">Fool</P></CENTER>        EOFILE        print
           | &MakeFoot;
        
         | sixothree wrote:
         | Why is this on the front page of HN?
        
       | EGreg wrote:
       | https://start.boldvoice.com/accent-guesser
        
       | gobins wrote:
       | Interesting that it actually guessed as the neighbouring country.
       | I live close to the border but have never interacted with the
       | people across. Wonder if there might be similarities in tone and
       | inflection.
        
         | amelius wrote:
         | Maybe the GPS signal was slightly off ;)
        
       | muhammadusman wrote:
       | I'm happy with my mix of Urdu + English accent, I got an 80% on
       | Urdu which seems about right. I am impressed by this and now I'd
       | like to hear others and how well it matches their voice.
       | Although, I don't need coaching or anything to remove my accent,
       | it makes me me.
        
       | adverbly wrote:
       | I tried my best Arnold Schwarzenegger accent.
       | 
       | It had me as English, French and Spanish. I'm not very good at
       | accents to be fair.
        
       | wigster wrote:
       | i'm english - it gave me 99% danish, 1% swedish. hmmm
        
       | a13n wrote:
       | Did my best Borat voice and got Italian - Russian - Bulgarian.
        
       | belfalas wrote:
       | For a really hard one give it audio of William F Buckley!
        
         | Oarch wrote:
         | Or Moira Rose
        
       | harel wrote:
       | Got my accent wrong twice in a row. Was not even close.
        
       | jart wrote:
       | 97% English? Boring. It should be able to detect regional English
       | dialects. I want to know what kind of English.
        
       | gauravphoenix wrote:
       | Whenever time permits, I have a (bad) habit of viewing source
       | code of new website. In this case, I found this on this website:
       | (haven't read the js yet to see what's the true intent but surely
       | a sign of horrible engineering)
       | 
       | edit- seems like remix customizations.
       | "remove-watch-video-requirement": {
       | "defaultValue": false,                                 "rules":
       | [{                                     "condition": {
       | "env": "prod",                                         "email": {
       | "$in": ["micaelajhilmeet@gmail.com",
       | "ilya+demoaiconversation@usorov.com"]
       | }                                     },
       | "force": true                                 }]
       | },                             "score-only-lesson-phoneme": {
       | "defaultValue": true                             },
       | "auto-stop-recording-for-all-practice": {
       | "defaultValue": true,                                 "rules": [{
       | "condition": {                                         "env":
       | "prod",                                         "email": {
       | "$in": ["ptisch@duck.com", "7gydmwmvqv@privaterelay.appleid.com",
       | "lalageophone@live.com"]
       | }                                     },
       | "force": false                                 }]
       | },                             "use-speechace-v9": {
       | "defaultValue": true                             },
       | "april-2022-price-increase-experiment": {
       | "defaultValue": false,                                 "rules":
       | [{                                     "condition": {
       | "env": "prod",                                         "email": {
       | "$in": ["ilya@usorov.com", "anada.lakra@gmail.com",
       | "murphyarman@gmail.com", "david@boldvoice.com",
       | "jagadishd9@gmail.com"]                                         }
       | },                                     "force": false
        
       | sergiotapia wrote:
       | That's amazing, I always thought I had no accent but there you go
       | right on the money it guessed Spanish!
        
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