[HN Gopher] Wolfram Notebook Assistant
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Wolfram Notebook Assistant
Author : nsoonhui
Score : 76 points
Date : 2024-12-10 04:37 UTC (18 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (writings.stephenwolfram.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (writings.stephenwolfram.com)
| yupis wrote:
| Awesome work
| qubex wrote:
| Wow... incredibly expensive... at minimum another 26EUR a month.
| Wolfram really enjoy milking their customers dry (and I'm a
| customer). I think this is highway robbery.
| nextos wrote:
| With a bit of creativity you can run something similar for
| free. It's worth noting Raspberry Pi comes with a free Wolfram
| license. The assistant part can come from something like
| Perplexity, which in my experience is decent at writing
| Mathematica code.
|
| I also have a Mathematica license which I think is worth paying
| for. One of the few closed software that has no good equivalent
| in the libre world. Nonetheless, I wish Wolfram had come up
| with a different business model that made Mathematica more
| mainstream, as I feel it has not realized its potential in
| certain areas.
| xhkkffbf wrote:
| I wouldn't call that "incredibly expensive". Certainly for what
| it does, there are many other software packages that cost more.
| qubex wrote:
| For somebody who uses Wolfram Home, it's incredibly
| expensive.
| Melodramatico wrote:
| Because of what logic actually?
|
| Are they forcing you to use it?
|
| Or do you expect them to run expensive GOUs for you for free?
|
| Are you actually using wa? Because if it's helpful as an
| assistant and it only costs 26 Dollar, shouldn't you be happy
| about this?
| qubex wrote:
| Yes I do use Mathematica. 26EUR a month is pricing like a
| freakin' luxury.
| Retric wrote:
| It's only expensive if you're getting less than 50$/month of
| value from it, at which point don't subscribe. This isn't
| something I'd pay for right now, but when I was doing this kind
| of work regularly it would have been an easy purchase.
|
| Subscription models don't mesh well with casual users. However,
| if it's going to save you hours of work every month then it's a
| perfectly reasonable price point.
| jjtheblunt wrote:
| That's like two Starbucks visits.
|
| (Wolfram customer since 1988 too, so I think it's helpful to
| change units, in this cost evaluation!)
| lrmabyc wrote:
| That looks nice. For the user, however: If notebooks or anything
| connect to Wolfram servers, is your own IP mined to power the
| training? Has past IP been mined?
| adsharma wrote:
| There's another way to do this:
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| English -- (LLM) --> python
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| Human fine tunes python
|
| Python -- (py2many) --> smt2 --> z3 --> result
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| Perhaps some steps can be eliminated in the future.
| adsharma wrote:
| With an example:
| https://gist.github.com/adsharma/45fbb065a8fe793030e8360daeb...
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| You could have a puzzle that's described in plain English. I
| think the current day tech is sufficient to translate the
| puzzle to a python constraint like in this gist.
|
| The argument is that the SMT solvers are a better match for
| solving these problems than expensive matrix multiplication
| paid for by someone else.
|
| Of course, SMT is not a solution for every situation that
| Wolfram language is used for today. But a lot of the reasoning
| benchmarks fall in this category.
| adsharma wrote:
| There is a wolfram blog post comparing python vs wolfram from
| 2021:
|
| https://blog.wolfram.com/2021/11/04/lessons-learned-migratin...
|
| The linked tweet (https://x.com/WolframResearch/status/13259358
| 91651698690?s=2...) is inaccessible. Does anyone have an
| archive?
|
| I'd love to see pandas/df compared instead of the iterative
| style.
| Qem wrote:
| > There is a wolfram blog post comparing python vs wolfram
| from 2021
|
| Now the view from someone who quit Mathematica walled garden
| to embrace the Python ecosystem (2018):
| https://paulromer.net/jupyter-mathematica-and-the-future-
| of-...
| geor9e wrote:
| I loved mathematica during university. Gorgeous math notation
| written with quick hotkeys, so I never needed Latex. And it
| computed in that form, so I never needed to code in ASCII. I'd do
| most of my math/engineering/physics homeworks in it. I would have
| paid for this back then for sure. Sadly, I rarely need to open
| mathematica anymore, in the world of real life employment.
| ata_aman wrote:
| Same here, truly the most intuitive analytics program. The
| notation made me want to use it every day. I loved the
| animations/charts you can produce.
| martinky24 wrote:
| "Useful to the Point of Being Revolutionary" is an insane title
| for a blog post like this.
| hugs wrote:
| Agreed. However, it's also the baseline expectation for
| anything from Wolfram, though. Hyperbole is the brand.
| jebarker wrote:
| Why? It seems really useful, so there must be a bar where that
| becomes revolutionary.
| ssivark wrote:
| But it's also a valid descriptor for Mathematica :-)
|
| ... for a significant slice of professional and hobbyist use
| cases, and there are no alternatives AFAICT!
| vouaobrasil wrote:
| My feeling as a mathematician is that adding gen AI to study
| science takes the beauty away from scientific discovery. It is an
| overt signal to what was alreadly happening covertly: the
| transformation of science into a mechanized procedure for the
| sake of production instead of human good. I condemn technology
| like this especially.
| jebarker wrote:
| I disagree. AI used thoughtfully as a tool can potentially
| allow a mathematician or scientist to progress further and see
| more beauty. I'm also a mathematician by training and I've
| realized that a large part of my love for math was/is the
| process of solving a problem by my own wits. AI does take that
| away somewhat, but that's not really the important part of
| maths for society as a whole.
| smusamashah wrote:
| I really appreciate the depth and detail of Wolfram's blog posts
| like these. Any other blog would have ended around 1/5th of the
| way. I kept expecting it to end, but it kept on giving and
| throwing in more examples. It's amazing and I can't help but
| compare that most people don't do that.
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