[HN Gopher] China's Salt Typhoon recorded top American officials...
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China's Salt Typhoon recorded top American officials' calls, says
White House
Author : rntn
Score : 49 points
Date : 2024-12-09 21:08 UTC (1 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.theregister.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.theregister.com)
| gaoshan wrote:
| Well, this is what spies do, right? We do it, they do it. We all
| use the latest technology of the day to do it and we all try to
| prevent the other.
|
| That the outcome of such efforts is published by the government
| impacted is interesting but that begs the question of what the
| actual goal of releasing the information is, right? That's the
| interesting bit here.
| hiatus wrote:
| Letting the adversary know that you know can be a useful move.
| stickfigure wrote:
| It should be the final nail in the coffin of Huawei's
| international telecoms business.
| Shank wrote:
| I personally don't see how these actions are logically
| correlated, and moreover, I don't think it does anything to
| harden US critical infrastructure to beat the Huawei dead
| horse again.
|
| The primary concern should be the fact that we've built
| infrastructure that is easily eavesdropped on by foreign
| adversaries. Heck, assuming these users weren't on DSN, we
| already have a solution: DSN. We also have mobile solutions,
| like asking politically vulnerable people to use Signal, or
| developing secure technology for these users to use.
| lazyeye wrote:
| I find your comment ridiculous. Yes there are other risks
| too but the idea that there is no risk to allowing your
| primary geo-strategic competitor to embed their own
| hardware in your telecommunications chain is just plain
| silly.
|
| So silly in fact, I'm wondering what your motivations are.
| piva00 wrote:
| A bit one-sided since this event also shows how filled with
| backdoors American telecom equipment is, no? To the point an
| adversary used them, other nations should be afraid of their
| American equipment also getting compromised.
| peepeepoopoo93 wrote:
| What do you want to bet that this was made possible by the CCP
| hardware backdoors that SuperMicro has been bugging their
| motherboards with?
|
| https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/12/supermicro_bloomberg_...
| hiatus wrote:
| This was never proven if memory serves me.
| peepeepoopoo93 wrote:
| Look at how many allegations are swirling around that
| company. They're accused of violating sanctions on GPUs to
| Russia and China too. Seems like a pattern IMO.
| ydnaclementine wrote:
| When does known espionage and hacking of nation's telecoms become
| an act of war?
| mastax wrote:
| When the state wants to go to war already and is looking for a
| justification.
| readyplayernull wrote:
| Welp, not when the oligarch ruling classes on each side
| estimate they won't earn more from war than keeping the peace
| and continue being fed by their own people.
| uticus wrote:
| > Salt Typhoon also compromised wiretapping systems used by law
| enforcement - although that wasn't the focus of the spying
| intrusions...
|
| Not too hard to pick up on the Vulture's underlining here: when
| the need for sovereign surveillance interferes with the need for
| foreign security
| Zak wrote:
| I'm disappointed, but not really surprised that top American
| officials are having important conversations over unencrypted
| channels.
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