[HN Gopher] Difference in Gastrointestinal Cancer Risk and Morta...
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       Difference in Gastrointestinal Cancer Risk and Mortality by Dietary
       Patterns
        
       Author : gnabgib
       Score  : 17 points
       Date   : 2024-12-08 20:41 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | spacephysics wrote:
       | Unhealthy characterized by red meat? When are are going to move
       | away from the stigma that saturated fats cause health issues
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       | "Red meat causes cancer" from self-reported diets of
       | cheeseburgers and other processed foods.
       | 
       | This study lumps read meat with processed foods and alcohol
       | consumption. Not much to go on for conclusions at that rate
        
         | malfist wrote:
         | Because saturated fats do cause health issues? Every large
         | health organization recommends limiting intake of saturated
         | fats for health reasons
        
         | brandonmenc wrote:
         | afaik the current understanding is that red meat contains
         | carcinogens and that this is not related to saturated fat.
         | 
         | Just eat it in moderation.
        
         | 123yawaworht456 wrote:
         | never, because they know _exactly_ what they 're doing, and
         | they do it anyway.
        
       | Etheryte wrote:
       | > The healthy dietary pattern was characterized by a higher
       | intake of fruits, whole grains, legumes, vegetables, milk, and
       | other dairy products, whereas the unhealthy dietary pattern was
       | characterized by a higher intake of red and processed meat,
       | alcohol, and both refined and sugar-sweetened beverages.
       | 
       | Can't help but feel that the results would've been more
       | informative if they excluded alcohol. We already know alcohol
       | causes cancer, with this setup we can't really tell how much of
       | the difference was the food and how much was the drinking.
        
         | para_parolu wrote:
         | People who drink expensive whiskey for sure live longer than
         | people who drink cheap whiskey
        
           | connicpu wrote:
           | Wealth being correlated with better health outcomes is
           | nothing new either
        
             | PittleyDunkin wrote:
             | Strange that it's not controlled for then!
        
       | jll29 wrote:
       | It may help that I hate soft drinks and don't like alcohol. But
       | I'll never give up bread, pizza, pasta and chocolate.
       | 
       | Anyhow, better n happy years than (n + x) miserable years, and
       | where x remains unknown.
        
         | ur-whale wrote:
         | > But I'll never give up bread, pizza, pasta and chocolate.
         | 
         | Give it a few years, and your pancreas might very well come
         | knocking with type II news.
         | 
         | At that point, the 'x' in your equation will carry a lot more
         | weight than you might be able to reckon right now, especially
         | if you have children by then.
        
           | ethernot wrote:
           | 50/50 on that. Had a near miss there. Borderline type 2.
           | Blasted weight down from 115kg to 65kg and changed diet.
           | 
           | Now I still eat pizza, pasta, bread and chocolate all the
           | time. Just reasonable amounts of it as part of a balanced
           | diet. And not the crap shovelled out by fast food
           | restaurants.
        
           | GravitasFailure wrote:
           | All things in moderation, including moderation.
        
         | paulpauper wrote:
         | the biggie is colon cancer...regular screening should prevent
         | that, so no need to eliminate tasty food.
        
       | contingencies wrote:
       | https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stomach-c...
       | suggests Mongolian, Japanese and Korean diets are the worst. What
       | do their diets have in common? High traditional intake of
       | distilled alcohol, pickled foods, and meat. IIRC pickled foods
       | are alkaline and weaken the stomach's acidic environ, exposing
       | stomach lining to compounding damage from alcohol, chilli, etc.
        
         | zihotki wrote:
         | Pickles usually contain vinegar for preservation, which is
         | highly acidic. So they are often acidic, not alcaline, and
         | won't weaken anything
        
         | KRAKRISMOTT wrote:
         | The Japanese and Koreans aren't dying early though.
        
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