[HN Gopher] Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the ...
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Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor
Author : mellosouls
Score : 37 points
Date : 2024-12-07 21:00 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| gaiagraphia wrote:
| "Divides" is a stretch here. The BBC must report both points of
| view, so by default, anything they right must 'divide people'.
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| The 'division' in this article comes from: >Some posted on
| Instagram concerns that clubs could suffer as social media videos
| of their night act as free adverts
|
| Doesn't really paint the picture of this nightclub having its
| fanbase split in half arguing about whether it's good or bad....
| MortyWaves wrote:
| I hate that this is the case. It's been incredibly frustrating
| over the years seeing perfectly normal and universally accepted
| things be reported about, but they have to find the absolute
| dregs of society with whacky and extremely stupid ideas simply
| so they can say they "are impartial".
|
| It's been everything from Brexit to Covid and everything in
| between.
| derN3rd wrote:
| Some clubs in Berlin (Germany) already do this for quite some
| time and the people there are all fine with it. The vibe is just
| different, because the people focus more on each other or
| themself instead of generating content for some online profiles.
| wkat4242 wrote:
| Also, Berlin has many clubs where clubbing culture and
| kinky/fetish/sexpositive cultures come together. Like KitKat or
| Berghain.
|
| In those clubs it's more necessary to prevent photos obviously,
| and that habit makes it more acceptable in regular clubs.
| sethhochberg wrote:
| Various clubs and parties in the NYC scene, too, going back
| well over a decade. I'm genuinely surprised to read there is
| some (perhaps exaggerated) controversy over this in the news.
| The places that have strict no photo / no video policies like
| this pretty explicitly _don't want_ a patron who became
| interested in attending primarily because they saw a video of
| the dance floor on Instagram, they cater to scenes and
| communities where word of mouth and reputation are more than
| enough to fill the room.
| nailer wrote:
| This is a very common practice in kink and fetish clubs as well
| as anywhere where well-known people go.
| jdblair wrote:
| The first time entrance security put a sticker over my smartphone
| camera? That would be entering Samsung Digital City in Suwon,
| Korea.
|
| The second time was going to a club in Amsterdam (Shelter) in
| 2019.
| jdalgetty wrote:
| I'd like to see something like this in schools too - but instead
| the sticker goes over the screen!
| Etheryte wrote:
| These days, most clubs which are at the forefront of what's cool
| and interesting are doing this. If I go to a new place and I see
| stickers, I'm already pretty happy, because it's probably gonna
| be a nice time. They've taken the time and effort to think about
| the experience and all the little details that matter. Generic
| club hit places don't bother with stuff like this and it's a good
| proxy to separate the two.
| gardenhedge wrote:
| How does it work? Can people just not take the sticker off?
| wkat4242 wrote:
| It's possible yes. You can also take the phone out of the case.
| I do this sometimes when i need to scan a QR or something.
|
| It doesn't stop people from doing it deliberately but it
| prevents the discussion between people holding up a phone and
| someone else thinking they're being filmed. If someone does
| that without the sticker it is immediately cause for calling
| security.
| dotspec wrote:
| From the article.
|
| > People violating the rule will be "politely asked to stop",
| says Abbott. "If you are seen doing it again, you will be asked
| to leave the venue."
|
| I'm past my clubbing days but can attest to seeing this in
| practice at a couple venues. Someone started filming one of
| their friends and both got promptly escorted to the door.
| bbarnett wrote:
| Reminds me of
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3eeC2lJZs
| Terr_ wrote:
| I think the idea is that then other people can easily see the
| _absence_ of a sticker, and then confidently make an
| intervention over a clear rule-violation.
|
| There's no weird guessing whether someone is _really_ recording
| at the moment, no lengthy observation or explanation or
| negotiation, it 's a clear requirement with an immediate
| action.
| cstrat wrote:
| Wouldn't people just take the stickers off? Is this to just
| enforce intent around photos in the club??
| ENGNR wrote:
| I'm guessing security would see you filming and come for a
| chat. Probably other patrons too, if that's the culture of the
| venue.
| BobAliceInATree wrote:
| I frequent a night-club that doesn't allow photography, but
| doesn't put stickers. People (esp. non-regulars) will
| occasionally take a photo because they forgot and it's such a
| normal thing they do in their lives. Removing a sticker
| requires significant more intentionality.
| threeseed wrote:
| It was in the article. You get one warning and then you will be
| thrown out.
| Modified3019 wrote:
| It's more of a physical/psychological reminder, not an actually
| secure and invasive attempt to prevent access.
|
| Taking it off gets you asked to leave when you're seen holding
| up a phone.
| somishere wrote:
| I dropped into Fabric on a stopover in London in July (first time
| back on that floor in probably 15 years). I was surprised when
| they asked for my phone, but yeah it 100% made a difference.
| Would have spotted maybe 2-3 tourists taking photos at some
| point, but that was it. Great vibe. Mix of young and old.
|
| Compare that to a recent bookashade gig in Sydney, which was
| smaller but was basically a film club event. 100 squares of light
| on record at any point (all with the same camera UI!) .. older
| crowd who probably should have known better, at least according
| to the article.
| andrewflnr wrote:
| I'd mostly be worried that the sticky part is going to get on my
| lens. Do they use stickers with a non-sticky part in the middle?
| Do people make those?
| 1832 wrote:
| From what I've seen they are just regular circle shaped
| stickers. If you're using a case usually you wouldnt get
| sticker glue on your lens but if you do you can rub it off with
| the inside of your tshirt sleeve.
| underyx wrote:
| Are there any places in SF with this rule?
| pesus wrote:
| Would love to know myself as well, but I haven't seen any. I'd
| imagine there's at least some demand in the Bay Area for events
| like this? We get a good amount of electronic/dance shows
| already, and the underground scene still exists at least a bit.
| I've pondered throwing some events or even opening a venue like
| this, but don't currently have the right connections/resources.
| Amorymeltzer wrote:
| Anecdotal story from the US: a boomer I know went to a play at a
| theatre, and since they don't allow photography, they put these
| stickers... on the phone case, not the camera. So now he has two
| stickers on the back of the phone case that don't come off
| easily.
| technonerd wrote:
| I attend a few parties that preach/practice this. Along with it
| being everyones responsibility to enforce a no cellphones policy
| on the dance floor. It provides for a much better experience on
| the dance floor. Just be yourself ;) Live in the NOW. I think
| some guy named Danny Tenaglia mentioned that once. The curators
| of these events have also built wall of sounds around the
| world(life changing BTW) and care about the music.
|
| Education about a proper CLUB/PARTY night goes a long ways.
| voidr wrote:
| I don't like the idea of having to clean the glue off my phone
| because the club is more concerned about people making fools out
| of themselves in public more than being concerned about my
| private property, it is sending the wrong message.
| bayindirh wrote:
| I have a personal rule of not taking videos or photos at any
| concerts or similar events for 4-5 years now.
|
| I remember all the events more vividly, have a couple of
| interesting mental notes from all of them, and all of them are
| great material conversations.
|
| Also, it has the benefit of not watching the whole thing from a
| small screen which is fed from a tiny sensor, trying to keep
| image stabilized and convert the whole event to a challenge to
| capture low quality video (or set of photos) which I don't
| revisit.
| braiamp wrote:
| That's because you don't give your brain a excuse to be lazy.
| If the brain knows that it can offload the information
| somewhere else, it will do so. Instead of you recalling from
| memory the image, you recall from memory where the image is
| https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S22113...
| teeray wrote:
| I understand that there's issues of piracy (from the producer's
| perspective), but I really wish every concert just had a
| concert DVD or something I could buy. That solves the FOMO of
| recording some unique performance.
| 01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote:
| Always shocked how many commenters here go to nightclubs,
| considering the programmer population
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