[HN Gopher] Dickies moving its headquarters from Texas to Califo...
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       Dickies moving its headquarters from Texas to California
        
       Author : geox
       Score  : 32 points
       Date   : 2024-12-07 17:48 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | underseacables wrote:
       | _The Dickies move will impact about 120 Fort Worth employees._
        
       | gjsman-1000 wrote:
       | They don't manufacture in America anymore, so good riddance.
       | Nothing but a Chinese white-label now.
        
         | cma wrote:
         | Why do we want so many garment shop jobs to be done in America?
        
           | Y_Y wrote:
           | It builds character
        
           | BadHumans wrote:
           | People look at all manufacturing jobs disappearing as part of
           | the reason the middle class is dead. Unfortunately, even if
           | all of these jobs came back, few people want to pay $70 for a
           | made-in-America shirt.
        
             | throwawaymaths wrote:
             | hm. i wonder. made in usa plain tees are not that expensive
             | (american apparel) and if you mean button up shirt, i paid
             | $100 for a shirt made abroad.
             | 
             | i recently bought made in usa undergarments and the quality
             | was better than am undergarment i bought from abroad and
             | the price was comparable
        
               | kube-system wrote:
               | While you can get T-shirts made in USA for reasonable
               | prices, there's not a great selection out there, and you
               | might want to check to see where those American Apparel
               | T-shirts are being made. While they were known in the
               | past for being USA made, they heavily outsource now.:
               | 
               | https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91Y+xeS+HoL.jpg
        
             | rqtwteye wrote:
             | I think people might if they offered good quality. But that
             | doesn't seem to be the case with a lot of things "Made in
             | USA".
        
           | vineyardmike wrote:
           | We probably don't care about these jobs. But the political
           | and cultural care over manufacturing jobs is twofold (1)
           | manufacturing in America ensured we can sustain ourselves in
           | a war with another manufacturing nation (eg china) and (2)
           | it's a politically savory thing.
           | 
           | Today, we have pretty low unemployment so jobs isn't as big a
           | concern as other times. BUT jobs are not evenly distributed
           | across the nation. If you visit the rust belt, those cities
           | and towns are losing population as they lose jobs. That makes
           | for an angsty population - staying in your hometown means
           | fighting over the shrinking job pool. No one really _wants_
           | to be a coal-miner or factory worker, but when that was the
           | last big employer in your shrinking town, you get nostalgic
           | for "good days" of high employment numbers, and a growing
           | population.
           | 
           | Garments aren't coming back unless American shopping habits
           | change. We've started spending a smaller % of income on
           | clothes, while buying more units of clothing per year. That
           | favors clothes made by fast fashion under terrible work
           | conditions - which will never be local. Unless you want to
           | buy a $200 pair of ethically made jeans, you're not getting
           | it American.
        
           | fragmede wrote:
           | Because it's a job for people who aren't good at math and
           | science can do. It's great that people can be doctors and
           | chemists and software engineers but people who don't have
           | those kinds of smarts to do those things, still need to have
           | jobs. UBI ain't happening, so without jobs that don't take an
           | advanced degree, the people without them don't have jobs.
           | Without a job, how're you going to survive under capitalism?
        
         | medler wrote:
         | They've been manufacturing abroad since at least the 1960s.
        
         | HeatrayEnjoyer wrote:
         | >so good riddance.
         | 
         | They are not leaving the US...?
        
       | mmmBacon wrote:
       | https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/south-texas-el-paso/news/20....
       | 
       | Looks like the owner VF Corp is consolidating campuses and
       | wanting Dickies to be collocated with Vans in Costa Mesa.
        
         | whalesalad wrote:
         | Yeah, nothing to see here. Just your run of the mill corporate
         | consolidation. I used to live a few miles from that Vans HQ
         | right off the 405.
        
         | Animats wrote:
         | Right.
         | 
         | Dickies and Vans were and are both units of VF
         | Corporation.[1][2] VF also owns The North Face and Timberland,
         | and a bunch of other "lifestyle brands". They have headquarters
         | all over the place. VF corporate HQ is Denver. Vans HQ is in
         | Costa Mesa, CA. There's a HQ in Shanghai, which manages
         | manufacturing. Timberland HQ is in New Hampshire. North Face HQ
         | is in Denver. And for some reason, there's an IT unit in
         | Greensboro, NC.
         | 
         | Too many HQs. Looks from their job listings like they're
         | consolidating apparel in Costa Mesa, except for North Face and
         | Timberland.
         | 
         | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VF_Corporation
         | 
         | [2] https://www.vfc.com/
        
           | danans wrote:
           | Despite the fact that they manufacture work-wear, I'd hazard
           | to guess that most of the "innovation" - like with any other
           | apparel type - is in taste-making and branding rather than
           | any improvement in work-wear materials or functionality, and
           | the talent pool for taste-making is likely much stronger in
           | Southern California than Forth Worth, TX.
           | 
           | The consolidation probably means they'll just add most of the
           | Dickies brand workload to the existing employees in Southern
           | California rather than hire/transfer 120 workers there. So a
           | net reduction in labor costs and elimination of real estate
           | costs, despite moving to a higher CoL area.
        
       | tzs wrote:
       | Note that this is the Dickies that makes workwear [1], not the
       | similar sounding but spelled differently Dickey's BBQ [2] or The
       | Dickies band [3][4] who are one of the longest tenured punk rock
       | bands having started in 1977 and are still performing.
       | 
       | Of the three the workwear maker is the only one I've never dealt
       | with. The BBQ was pretty good several years ago, but I ended up
       | just not going for a couple of years, then when I tried to the
       | ones nearest me had all closed and the number a medium distance
       | from me had greatly diminished and their ratings had tanked.
       | 
       | I've seen the band live twice and both had interesting
       | interruptions. The first interruption there was a problem with an
       | amp and they had to pause the show while it was fixed. The singer
       | walked over to the keyboard and said that to entertain us while
       | we waited he would play and named a Bach piece. I don't remember
       | what piece it was other than it is one considered to be difficult
       | piece, and he played it perfectly.
       | 
       | The second interrupted show was one where the crowd at the front
       | of the stage was urging the singer to crowd dive. He asked them
       | if he could piss on them instead. They shouted "YES!".
       | 
       | Big mistake. He then stopped singing, the stage crew quickly got
       | a spotlight on his crotch, we got to see him unzip and whip it
       | out...and he then proceeded to urinate on the people in front.
       | 
       | The show resumed but the people who had been pissed on kept
       | trying to get onto stage, and security was having trouble keeping
       | them back and the show had to be cut short.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.dickies.com/
       | 
       | [2] https://www.dickeys.com/
       | 
       | [3] http://www.thedickies.com/
       | 
       | [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dickies
        
         | op00to wrote:
         | It's also not the top part of a sweater, just to be clear.
        
         | danans wrote:
         | > Note that this is the Dickies that makes workwear [1], not
         | the similar sounding but spelled differently Dickey's BBQ [2]
         | or The Dickies band [3][4] who are one of the longest tenured
         | punk rock bands having started in 1977 and are still
         | performing.
         | 
         | Why would anyone be confused about this? The first sentence of
         | the article reads:
         | 
         | "The workwear apparel brand Dickies is moving its headquarters
         | from Texas to California."
        
         | serf wrote:
         | I had a The Dickies tshirt that I was banned from wearing in
         | public high school.[0]
         | 
         | coincidentally I have also been to a show where the lead
         | started pissing on everyone -- but he didn't ask. (Mike V and
         | the Rats)..
         | 
         | you'd think that would be uncommon, but maybe it's a so-cal
         | punk band tradition. lol
         | 
         | [0]: (it was their band name in the style of a flaccid penis,
         | https://i.etsystatic.com/7307138/r/il/58ab4b/3571084842/il_f...
         | )
        
       | brink wrote:
       | It's funny that a company actually choosing to live in California
       | now is so unusual that it sparks a headline and a front-page
       | post.
        
         | HeatrayEnjoyer wrote:
         | > It's funny that a company actually choosing to live in
         | California now is so unusual
         | 
         | Says who? California is one of the most desirable places to
         | live and work. It's a headline because moving the HQ of a huge
         | established corporation is a daunting undertaking and rare
         | event.
        
         | jamiek88 wrote:
         | Pop your bubble mate
        
       | defart wrote:
       | Bit of a Dickies move, if you ask me..
        
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