[HN Gopher] The dogs of Chernobyl: Populations in the nuclear ex...
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The dogs of Chernobyl: Populations in the nuclear exclusion zone
(2023)
Author : IndrekR
Score : 102 points
Date : 2024-12-03 15:07 UTC (4 days ago)
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| jgrahamc wrote:
| When I was there I met some of these dogs. Here are a couple of
| photos of the very friendly pooches: https://imgur.com/a/8vsKxzp
| dgb23 wrote:
| Beautiful creatures! It's interesting that they converged
| towards that rugged but still very dog-ish appearance.
| IntStorage wrote:
| *Chornobyl
|
| https://insp.pnnl.gov/-chorninit-spelling.htm#:~:text=The%20....
| silvestreh wrote:
| Both spellings are correct--they're just in different
| languages. Chernobil (Spanish) is also correct, but you
| probably wouldn't point it out because it's not Russian.
| dagenleg wrote:
| And I'm sure you see that there might me somewhat of a slight
| issue with calling Ukrainian cities in Russian, considering
| the political situation.
| ralfd wrote:
| Considering how the war is going for Ukraine we can just
| keep using the Russian spelling ...
| outworlder wrote:
| This is not a place for political propaganda. The war is
| far from decided.
| gwervc wrote:
| It was decided years ago, but some politicians and
| shareholders decided it was a good opportunity to
| exploit. Also the Russian economy was supposed to
| collapse few years ago because of UE sanctions. Still
| waiting for that to happen.
| Retric wrote:
| I'd call it collapsed, but Russia is used to severe
| economic issues so their tolerance is rather different.
|
| GDP looks ok with all that military spending and
| unemployment is down, but the rest of the economy looks
| terrible.
| trhway wrote:
| You know, man, you should complete your joke and suggest
| that, following the Far East cities of Russia, the rest
| of Russia should also start using Chinese spelling.
| thih9 wrote:
| I guess it's just as correct as referring to Alaska as
| "Aljaska" (Russian).
| aguaviva wrote:
| Except it's not.
|
| Chernobyl is just another popular spelling that people have
| gotten accustomed to.
|
| But no one outside the Russian Mir ever refers to Alaska as
| Aljaska.
|
| There's no signficance or import to the chosen spelling.
| This whole flame war is completely pointless.
| mjfl wrote:
| I hope you display the same sensitivity when it comes to Gaza.
| Really tired of Western hypocrisy.
| apelapan wrote:
| What way of spelling of Gaza do you prefer?
| lionkor wrote:
| Chernobyl happens to be the popular spelling. Don't start
| trying to tell people what to say and what not to say, that
| doesn't fly.
| egorfine wrote:
| *Chernobyl.
|
| While "Chornobyl" is the current official Ukrainian spelling of
| the city name, the catastrophe itself took place at the
| "Chernobyl NPP" and the zone is consequentially named
| "Chernobyl Exclusion Zone".
|
| Renaming the past is not a way to win the future.
| ulrischa wrote:
| Since 2017, organizations like the Clean Futures Fund have been
| providing veterinary care, including vaccination, spaying, and
| neutering, to manage the dog population and reduce disease
| transmission risks
| georgeecollins wrote:
| I want to hear about the cats of Chernobyl! I read in a book that
| "domesticated" cats are essentially the same as wild cats, they
| just have different habits because of the way they are raised.
| That suggests to me that in the absence of a human population
| (and the right climate) some would survive in the wild.
| trhway wrote:
| https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1832311/ (
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaUNhqnpiOE )
|
| "It's been over 20 years since the meltdown at the Chernobyl
| nuclear power plant. ...
|
| This documentary shows a family of cats whose mother once lived
| with the former inhabitants of the zone. "
| ftrobro wrote:
| Domesticated cats survive so well in the wild that they have
| eradicated several other animal species:
|
| https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cats-kill-a-stagg...
| oaththrowaway wrote:
| My cat spends 99% of her time outside. She likes to come in and
| hang out with my kids when they get home from school and take a
| quick nap, but then she's asking to be let out by the time
| we're eating dinner.
|
| She'd rather be exploring, hunting mice/chipmunks, and fighting
| off raccoons and skunks for her food and water supply.
| e40 wrote:
| Wild house cats are called feral cats. They exist all over.
| They are extremely fearful and/or avoidant of humans. And by
| "all over" I mean in cities, living among us. A dog, that is
| lost in a city will invariably find a human to take it in.
| Sometimes cats will do that, but cats are pickier about their
| humans than most dogs are. The first generation of cats born in
| the while will essentially become completely wild once they are
| adults and the chances of domesticating them is very low.
|
| I, too, would love to see and hear about the cats of Chernobyl.
| trhway wrote:
| >Of all Chernobyl dog populations, dogs from Slavutych show the
| greatest haplotype sharing with purebred dogs, particularly with
| the Labrador retriever, boxer, and Yorkshire terrier
|
| While i can understand Labrador and boxer, where is the Yorkshire
| comes from? For anybody who remembers dogs in 1986 in USSR you
| can hardly remember seeing any Yorkshire (or any other small
| breed really).
| natmaka wrote:
| "Chernobyl Created the World's Rarest Dogs"
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmVGwOP_zi8
| ryukoposting wrote:
| After doing a bit more reading about this topic, I'd be really
| interested to see a follow-up study that includes samples of the
| local wolf population. Supposedly, one of the reasons the dogs
| all hang around the power plant is because they get driven out of
| the woods by wolves. I wonder if there is any genetic cross-over
| between them.
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