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Maps.me co-founder tries to close down Organic Maps open-source
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Author : 0x457
Score : 173 points
Date : 2024-12-06 19:11 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| ikesau wrote:
| Do I have this right?
|
| Organic Maps had a private (but MIT-licensed) Cloudflare Worker
| in a repo called meta. Alexander Borsuk (an Organic Maps
| maintainer, and co-founder of maps.me) surreptitiously removed
| the license and added logging to the worker.
|
| Roman Tsisyk, another maintainer of Organic Maps, noticed this.
| He undid the changes, made this post, and has now been booted
| from the organization?
| LikeAnElephant wrote:
| That's my understanding as well.
|
| Definitely will follow this, I was really disappointed when
| Maps.Me started getting enshittified. Hope it doesn't happen to
| Organic Maps as well.
| itake wrote:
| "from the organization"? which organization?
|
| The https://github.com/organicmaps/meta 404s for me now. I
| still see Roman listed as a member of organicmaps:
| https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/people
|
| I guess he was in both maps.me and organic maps? Which seems
| odd.. I thought these were completely separate organizations
| with different priorities and goals. That seems odd they would
| have leaders contributing in both products.
| resoluteteeth wrote:
| I don't understand this at all. Can someone explain how/why
| this conflict is happening within organic maps?
| bradly wrote:
| > On November 23, Mr. Borsuk quietly made a change, removing
| the MIT license while keeping his copyright. The change with
| the flagrant comment "No MIT yet, sorry." was discovered by
| me only today. A few non-significant commits were made on top
| of it.
| Vegenoid wrote:
| > has now been booted from the organization
|
| To clarify, Roman claims that he has had some permissions
| revoked from the Organic Maps organization on Github in
| response to this. Alexander Borsuk stated that he "will return
| access if we solve the problem of Roma making decisions alone".
| pastk wrote:
| Some facts: Alexander Borsuk, Roman Tsisyk and Viktor Havaka
| are co-founders of Organic Maps which is a fork of Maps.Me.
| Alexander and Viktor were co-founders of Maps.Me as well. All
| of them are not working for Maps.Me anymore and Organic Maps
| (OM) is independent project since its inception.
|
| Now, the current situation: OM's map server (CF worker) albeit
| under MIT license was de-facto closed source all this time.
| Roman opened the repo for public access. Alexander revoked
| Roman's GH permissions and closed the repo again.
|
| (I've been actively contributing to OM for 3 years and I
| thought that all parts are open source. Until very recently..)
| vr46 wrote:
| Opportunity to give Organic Maps a shout for being brilliant and
| wonderful.
| benatkin wrote:
| Indeed. It should be the default to have a full map of your
| area downloaded. But no, Google wants everyone to be dependent
| upon them on a second-to-second level. (Yes I know Google has
| offline maps and unlike YouTube the offline support is free as
| in beer, but it's in an untransparent and a much less powerful
| manner, and if you're online it will use the network heavily)
| vr46 wrote:
| I was in a chunk of the world where roaming was prohibitive
| this summer, and Organic Maps took us everywhere, found us
| incredible viewing spots to photograph from, and basically
| gave us a real connection to the landscape around us. The UI
| was slightly confusing, but forgivable, and if I had any
| money I would give it to them.
| nathancahill wrote:
| > found us incredible viewing spots to photograph from
|
| Curious to hear more about this? Something specific to
| Organic Maps? I spend a lot of time studying maps when I'm
| on a trip for this purpose.
| vr46 wrote:
| Just easy to see on the map, I guess - look for the
| binoculars!
| Fauntleroy wrote:
| Depending on where you are, Organic Maps can have far far
| finer detail, especially when it comes to walking paths.
| I used this a couple times in Japan and Korea to find my
| way through densely packed shrine complexes, or over
| less-traveled hiking paths in the mountains.
| pedrogpimenta wrote:
| I once saw "sneaky entrance" near a temple/park in Bali
| and we got in for free :)
| dade_ wrote:
| And it is accurate in the Caribbean, unlike Google Maps that
| insists on sending me over cliffs to my death, people's back
| yards, non existent or dead end roads, as well as other areas
| best avoided.
| Mr_Bees69 wrote:
| ****, i use organic maps, we need to get more eyes on this.
| fnfjfk wrote:
| I've used this app as an offline maps tool for travel for a long
| time, when I got it I thought it was just a fine OSM client.
|
| Then years later I hear it was running crypto nonsense (what) and
| was involved in FTX ( _what_ ), but out of laziness I'm still
| using the thing because it can't do any upsells when I am offline
| anyways.
|
| Any recommendations for a good iOS offline map app that's just a
| map app?
| itake wrote:
| Not exactly sure what you mean. My understanding is Maps.me
| started trying to extract value from users (via the mentioned
| means) and that Organic Maps [0], took an old open-licensed
| fork of maps.me from before Maps.me went bad.
|
| I currently use organicmaps.app as a nice offline back up for
| my traveling. I don't know how this current drama impacts
| organicmaps. I didn't realize that maps.me was also a
| contributor to organicmaps.
|
| [0] - https://organicmaps.app/
| fizwidget wrote:
| By "this app" I assume you're referring to Maps.me.
|
| I can recommend Organic Maps. It has none of those crypto
| shenanigans and is a great offline OSM-based app.
| fnfjfk wrote:
| Yes maps.me
| metalman wrote:
| downloading from fdroid as I type this how did I not know? awsome
| what contreversy can do! exactly the oposite thanks
| L29Ah wrote:
| osmand is better anyway :>
| sandbx wrote:
| Organic Maps is great
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