[HN Gopher] The "Bird and Baby" grows up: inside the new Eagle a...
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The "Bird and Baby" grows up: inside the new Eagle and Child
Author : Doctor_Fegg
Score : 57 points
Date : 2024-12-04 10:40 UTC (12 hours ago)
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| Isamu wrote:
| This is the pub where Tolkien and Lewis met with their literary
| group the Inklings before moving across the street to the Lamb
| and Flag.
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| Title made it sound like it had reopened, but "The Eagle & Child
| will not reopen before 2027. Planning permission has not yet even
| been granted for the building conservation work, let alone the
| extensive restoration and revival."
| wincy wrote:
| At least they have a very fine historically restored pub for
| ants built out.
|
| I always wonder how atrociously expensive the little scale
| models architecture firms make are, I'd imagine this one uses
| real tiny hardwoods on the floors and stuff as well so it's
| even more eye wateringly expensive.
| throw646577 wrote:
| Well they are _Oxford_ ants. They are used to real hardwood
| floors with a coating of floor polish so storied you can do
| archaeology on it.
| kasey_junk wrote:
| In the US at least, most of that work is outsourced to third
| parties in China or low cost of labor countries.
|
| If an architectural firm has one in house it's sending a
| message about just how boutique (and expensive) they are.
| cbsks wrote:
| Do they still make physical models? I took an intro to
| architecture class in college, which was fun, but
| essentially just a drawing and model-making class. I would
| assume that most models would be digital 3d renderings now.
| toast0 wrote:
| At least when my spouse wss in architecture school, these
| were mostly expensive in time, not materials. Things like the
| divided windows are a giant pain to put together.
|
| It's pretty atypical to use actual materials in the model.
| When you need to see the actual materials together, you just
| use samples at 1:1 size and either hold the individual
| samples near each other or at most build a small corner to
| illustrate where things will come together.
| arethuza wrote:
| Interesting to note that C.S. Lewis and Tolkien met Arthur C.
| Clarke and a BIS colleague in a different bar - must have
| regarded it as neutral territory:
|
| _' Needless to say, neither side converted the other, and we
| refused to abandon our diabolical schemes of interplanetary
| conquest. But a fine time was had by all, and when, some hours
| later, we emerged a little unsteadily from the Eastgate, Dr.
| Lewis' parting words were "I'm sure you're very wicked people -
| but how dull it would be if everyone was good"'_
| BoxOfRain wrote:
| I wonder if the Botley Road will be reopened and the
| improvements to the train station will have been competed by
| then?
|
| I suspect they'll have been delayed by another archaeological
| dig when they find some artefacts left over from when the road
| was first closed.
| yannis7 wrote:
| the USENIX YouTube link took me down quite the rabbit hole
| arethuza wrote:
| I wonder if Ellison will also buy the Eagle in Cambridge - which
| also has an interesting history:
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eagle,_Cambridge
| stogot wrote:
| Didn't know this pub! Cool history
| arethuza wrote:
| I had missed that it also used to be called the Eagle and
| Child.
| rwmj wrote:
| Not to mention the Baron of Beef in Cambridge:
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baron_of_Beef
| dickiedyce wrote:
| Pretty sure that The Maypole
| (https://maypolefreehouse.co.uk), which is round the back of
| the Baron, is safe... thank goodness.
| nerdponx wrote:
| > We are a Euro FREE Zone which means no sports will be
| shown at the pub.
|
| American here. What the heck does this mean?
| dickiedyce wrote:
| LOL. Pubs in the UK tend to fall into roughly 2 camps...
| with TV, and without. And the with TV ones can be quite
| extreme, and conversation can be difficult when people
| are distracted by a TV visible whichever way you look.
| During the European football championships, lots of pubs
| have wall-to-wall football coverage (as in soccer, not
| Rugby in drag) which serious drinkers might want to avoid
| ;-) (And for the more sports obsessed, it also makes,
| avoiding seeing the scores before you get home and watch
| it properly on catch-up much easier...)
| pm215 wrote:
| It means they haven't updated their website since summer
| when the European football championships were on :-) (and
| that, as the sibling comment says, they're advertising
| themselves as a pub where you go to avoid the coverage
| rather than a pub where you go to watch it).
| jgrahamc wrote:
| I am glad to see they are planning to keep the pub's weird layout
| of different rooms. A large part of the charm of drinking there
| was how it is/was laid out.
| nimish wrote:
| Glad to see it'll still be around just as weird and charming as
| it was.
| relistan wrote:
| Did not realize it was closed. When I was there maybe 15 years
| ago it was in quite a lot better state. Re-opening it at all,
| given all the pub closures, is a good thing. That it will more or
| less be kept intact is a big bonus.
| rossdavidh wrote:
| I've been there once, and it was quite cozy and nice; I would
| have liked it a good bit even if there had been no Inklings in
| its history (although that certainly added something). Their
| plans for it sound good, I hope they follow through!
| seanhunter wrote:
| Mixed feelings about this.
|
| On the one hand I am absolutely terrified for the future of
| anything touched by Larry Ellison. On the other hand, there is
| definitely scope for it to be improved- last time I went there
| (which was a long time ago admittedly) it was cool to be there
| because of its history etc but it wasn't _that_ great an actual
| pub. Like if you 're into historical drinking places somewhere
| like Ye Olde Cheshire Cheese near fleet street in London where
| Pepys and Boswell used to drink is a much better actual pub than
| I remember the Eagle and Child being at least the one or two
| times I went there.
| dave333 wrote:
| The other idiosyncratic pub in Oxford is the Turf Tavern to be
| found down some twisty passages off Holywell Street. But my 1970s
| Oxford undergrad experience was daily pie, beans, and chips in
| the much more normal Kings Arms opposite the Bodleian.
| adampwells wrote:
| Check out the fingers on the AI generated images!
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