[HN Gopher] Bioluminescent wood using the white rot fungus desar...
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       Bioluminescent wood using the white rot fungus desarmillaria
       tabescens
        
       Author : gnabgib
       Score  : 126 points
       Date   : 2024-12-02 19:02 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | fallinditch wrote:
       | I wasn't aware that rotting wood could be bioluminescent until I
       | saw it myself one night during a walk in the woods. I was
       | familiar with the terrain which enabled me to navigate at night
       | without torchlight. My eyes were accustomed to the dark, I
       | wouldn't have spotted it otherwise. On seeing the mysterious glow
       | I turned on my torch to inspect - it was an oak branch tinged
       | with a characteristic blue color, and very wet, the texture of
       | the wood was very soft. Location: Surrey, UK.
        
         | dekhn wrote:
         | I used to have extremely good dark adaptation and was able to
         | navigate trails in pitch-dark (no moon) nights, by looking away
         | (the sides of your vision are more sensitive to faint light)
         | and sort of defocusing... I'd see the shape of the trail
         | glowing slightly, and I believe it was bits of overturned wood
         | that had been rotting.
         | 
         | It's really subtle. Would only notice it on completely dark
         | nights entirely away from any light sources, and even then,
         | only on trails that had been recently traversed.
        
           | com2kid wrote:
           | Night vision is one of the things I miss most about being
           | really young.
           | 
           | Driving at night used to be fun! And I was easily able to
           | walk around in near pitch black.
           | 
           | Plenty other things can be maintained with good health and
           | exercise, but night vision isn't ever coming back. :(
        
             | dekhn wrote:
             | Yeah, I'm 52 and at some point in the last ten years, night
             | driving became really painful. I don't know how much of it
             | is due to my eyes changing, versus "improvements" in
             | headlights (of oncoming traffic; I notice that old lights
             | have a nice warm dim yellow, while newer lights tend to be
             | a bright cold white). or from grease on my inner windshield
             | :(.
             | 
             | But yeah, it totally turns what used to be a routine and
             | relaxing process into an exercise into "is that a tree or a
             | person dressed in dark clothing?"
        
               | qup wrote:
               | I don't think this is exactly what you're talking about,
               | but thought I'd drop a hint for anyone struggling with
               | twilight driving:
               | 
               | Use your visor to block out the sky. It's brighter than
               | the road part of the scene, and it forces your eyes to
               | pick the wrong "exposure." Blocking it helps quite a bit.
        
               | theturtle32 wrote:
               | Similarly, if you've had LASIK and struggle with halos
               | and starbursts around taillights and headlights, try
               | increasing the brightness of your instrument panel. It
               | will cause your irises to close in response to the
               | brighter light, which allows less light in through the
               | uncorrected area of your corneas. Basically: in LASIK
               | surgery they only apply correction to the very center
               | area of your cornea, and the more your irises open, the
               | more of those higher order aberrations you will see.
        
               | mc3301 wrote:
               | Interesting. I had "S.M.I.L.E" surgery about 8 years ago,
               | and I find the opposite to be better for me. At night, I
               | dim my instrument panel to as dark as possible.
        
               | 7thaccount wrote:
               | It isn't necessarily your eyesight.
               | 
               | I'm in my 30s and have great eyesight and have noticed
               | that with vehicles getting taller (especially trucks) and
               | lights getting much brighter that oncoming traffic can
               | really shine right into your eyes and make driving at
               | night a pain. I'm convinced it's entirely a problem of
               | our own fault that really impacts drivers of normal cars.
        
           | fallinditch wrote:
           | When walking in woodland at night in very dark conditions
           | without a torch, another good technique is to look up at the
           | shape of the tree branches silhouetted against the sky - you
           | can often discern where the trail goes.
        
         | tomcam wrote:
         | I mean Surrey borders on magical as it is... Love that place
        
         | n4r9 wrote:
         | > My eyes were accustomed to the dark, I wouldn't have spotted
         | it otherwise.
         | 
         | Funny you say that; my partner is a mycologist and her reaction
         | to the linked article was that the luminescence is typically
         | too weak to be very noticeable or useful.
        
       | yarg wrote:
       | My favourite story about bioluminescence is "angel's glow" in the
       | civil war.
       | 
       | A bioluminescent microbe colonised the wounds of civil war
       | soldiers, beating out pathogens and preventing sepsis.
       | 
       | https://www.utmb.edu/mdnews/podcast/episode/glowing-wounds
        
         | pomian wrote:
         | What a great link. Thankyou. There is still so much to learn
         | from the microbiome. Working with contaminated sites, I have
         | seen bacterial adaptations to the most l nastiest sites, almost
         | always improving the toxicity of the soil. (There are rare
         | exceptions.)
        
           | yarg wrote:
           | Thanks, but it really wasn't - it was just the least shit of
           | the top five results for "civil war bioluminescence".
           | 
           | I'd much prefer a more scientific article, especially one
           | that delves into the (let's say) caste system of the bacteria
           | - where one of it's developmental forms is symbiotic with a
           | nematode (?) worm, and the other colonises plant roots.
           | 
           | I'm guessing it was more than likely the plant root form
           | (resident in forest soil) rather than the worm gut symbiote -
           | I doubt they'd've ended up calling it "angel's glow" if the
           | soldiers wounds had been wriggling.
           | 
           | The other thing that puts me off is that it's one of a
           | general class of fawning article about high schoolers, when
           | (for one reason or another) what the child did wasn't really
           | that impressive.
           | 
           | In this case because her mother clearly did her homework for
           | her.
           | 
           | Edit:
           | 
           | Plant roots:
           | https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/aem.00891-20
           | 
           | Nematodes: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Devang-
           | Upadhyay/publica...
        
         | blincoln wrote:
         | Unfortunately, that story is likely a hoax/urban legend.
         | 
         | https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/26/angels-glow-civil-war...
        
       | akanet wrote:
       | I'm growing panellum stipticus on some wood and rice right now.
       | The glow is very faint but quite satisfying to perceive. I hope
       | to make a nice nightlight out of it
        
         | VierScar wrote:
         | What do you mean by "on" rice? On the living plant? Or you mean
         | it's growing in a jar of rice?
         | 
         | A bioluminescent wood nightlight sounds amazing, surely someone
         | sells them
        
           | dekhn wrote:
           | https://www.instructables.com/Growing-Mushrooms-With-Rice/
        
           | ceejayoz wrote:
           | I have four bioluminescent petunia houseplants above my bed
           | for that.
        
             | someothherguyy wrote:
             | I was curious, and here is a video of the product (not
             | trying to push marketing).
             | 
             | https://youtu.be/iaE7EsW-x_A?feature=shared&t=98
        
               | ceejayoz wrote:
               | Those are the ones. They're awesome. I put one in a clear
               | pot and the roots glow.
               | https://www.instagram.com/ceejayoz/p/C8_Dgqvuq2C/
        
           | AyyEye wrote:
           | Rice (flour) is a common substrate to grow mushrooms. Make
           | sterilized/hydrated rice cake and inject some spores into it.
        
       | InDubioProRubio wrote:
       | Imagine emergency lighting, that just glows for month, all it
       | takes is some accumulator dust- solar sell, capacitor, piezzo
       | crystal, giving the wood dust a regular stir in a bottle garden.
        
       | jimmySixDOF wrote:
       | Another 'usefull' rot is what forms the incense Agarwood, popular
       | in arab and asian culture, where a certain type of forrest/jungle
       | tree is infected and, after 50yrs, results in the highly sought
       | after perfume that can run you in the tens of thousands $ per kg.
        
       | DoctorOetker wrote:
       | > Unlocking the mechanisms behind fungal bioluminescence could
       | provide an electricity free light-source for the future with a
       | low energy requirement. A battery-free or plug-free sustainable
       | light source based on bioluminescent fungi would be beneficial
       | for the environment and help us meet net zero targets in line
       | with the IPCC synthesis report.[55] Utilizing bioluminescence to
       | illuminate our homes and communities would result in energy
       | savings and a reduction in CO2 emissions. The alternative light
       | source would also reduce nighttime light pollution, a global
       | concern in large cities. For example, bioluminescent wood was
       | used to illuminate the compass and depth gauge of the first
       | submarine, the Turtle, at Benjamin Franklin's suggestion.[56]
       | 
       | Ctrl-F "efficien" => no search hits for efficient or efficiency.
       | Is there any indication to believe these deeply multistep
       | chemical processes to be more energetically efficient than modern
       | electronics & LED's operated at similar radiant powers?
       | 
       | Or is the idea that this can absorb clean wood waste streams? If
       | so all these proposals will need a benefficiency coefficient:
       | i.e. how much LCO energy saved by not simply letting wood rot,
       | such that many competing ideas of what to do with "clean wood
       | waste streams" can be compared; already lots of organic waste
       | streams not digestible by humans or livestock are being
       | intentionally digested by microbial organisms to extract useful
       | protein suitable for livestock...
        
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