[HN Gopher] The Art and Mathematics of Genji-Ko
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The Art and Mathematics of Genji-Ko
Author : olooney
Score : 155 points
Date : 2024-11-27 14:33 UTC (1 days ago)
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| doctorhandshake wrote:
| Loved this. Great writing and a bit of cultural arcana I knew
| nothing about but which resonates into the present day.
| tromp wrote:
| Obligatory entry in The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer
| Sequences: https://oeis.org/A000110 which has 3 links mentioning
| Genji only one of which is not broken:
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| Xiaoling Dou, Hsien-Kuei Hwang and Chong-Yi Li, Bell numbers in
| Matsunaga's and Arima's Genjiko combinatorics [1]: Modern
| perspectives and local limit theorems, arXiv:2110.01156
| [math.CO], 2021.
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| [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2110.01156
| rezmason wrote:
| A couple years ago I made a codepen to generate arbitrarily long
| Genji-mon from a ruleset, and managed to write a rule that
| reduces the number of required special cases to one. However,
| these rules are very fragile, and "break" with lengths > 5 (edit:
| or maybe they don't! this deserves further exploration). Glad to
| see someone else discovering the structure behind this
| interesting system!
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| https://codepen.io/rezmason/pen/ejWogV
| olooney wrote:
| I tried setting `width` to 5 and found that your algorithm
| handles Yugiri correctly out-of-the-box. I tried commenting out
| various special case rules, such as lines 162-170, but it's the
| recursive algorithm itself that causes this. As you note on
| lines 204-214, your algorithm is not guaranteed to find the
| shortest solution; but the fact that it correctly handles
| Yugiri while mine does not suggests that it's closer to the
| intuitive, aesthetic judgement originally used to decide on the
| traditional layout.
|
| That really surprised me (in a good way), because I had viewed
| Yugiri as an _exception_ to an otherwise regular rule, while
| you showed it actually a natural consequence of a different
| rule! Of course, your algorithm _also_ has special cases that
| need to be handled, so ultimately it may just be an aesthetic
| choice after all, but it proves that Yugiri may not be as
| irregular as I thought.
| gowld wrote:
| This codepen's presentation strongly presents the "phantom
| squares crossroads" optical illusion.
| spirographer wrote:
| This is a great article! Funny about Yugiri (39), because your
| version is a mirror image to Eawase (17), and the traditional
| Japanese Yugiri breaks that symmetry.
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| Every Genji-mon that is not self-symmetrical should have a mirror
| image, which I was able to quickly verify in the Genji-mon table
| you displayed.
|
| Minori (40) is the only non symmetrical Genji-mon that breaks the
| rule, because it's the only one whose mirror image is also
| isomorphic to itself.
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| I can only imagine that there was something deliberate about the
| symmetry breaking for Yugiri, given the almost fanatical
| attention to detail in Japanese arts in general, and the equally
| strong penchant for deliberate imperfection in traditions like
| Kintsugi.
| steele wrote:
| No irony detected despite the tyranny of low expectations for the
| ability of bored Japanese nobles.
| bccdee wrote:
| "Low expectations"? This article is about the specific language
| of literary allusion used to describe the solutions to
| competitions based on discerning subtly different incenses.
| Does that sound easy to you?
|
| I don't think you understand what nobility was _for._ The point
| of aristocratic culture is to mediate alliances between
| powerful families. This:
|
| > There has never been a group of people, in any time or place,
| who were so driven to display their sophistication and
| refinement. It wouldn't do to merely put out a few sticks of
| incense; no, you would have to prove that your taste was more
| exquisite, your judgment more refined, your etiquette more
| oblique.
|
| is the micro-politicking which undergirded macro-political
| moves like marriages, trade deals, and wartime alliances. Like
| a bird with colourful plumage, competence in this "frivolous"
| game represented having the wealth and power to spend all your
| time thinking about incense. Being good at this stuff was part
| of the job, and it mattered.
|
| If your point is that aristocracy is a ridiculous system, sure,
| I don't disagree. But these people were not fooling around.
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