[HN Gopher] QwQ: Alibaba's O1 Like Reasoning LLM
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       QwQ: Alibaba's O1 Like Reasoning LLM
        
       Author : amrrs
       Score  : 25 points
       Date   : 2024-11-27 20:00 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (qwenlm.github.io)
 (TXT) w3m dump (qwenlm.github.io)
        
       | amrrs wrote:
       | Model weights and demo on HF
       | https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwq-674762b79b75eac0...
        
         | xaqar wrote:
         | For some fun - put in "Let's play Wordle" It seems to blabber
         | to itself infinitely ...
        
       | mmastrac wrote:
       | It seemed to reason through the strawberry problem (though taking
       | a fairly large number of tokens to do so).
       | 
       | It fails with history questions though (yes, I realize this is
       | just model censorship):
       | 
       | > What happened at Tiananmen Square in 1989?
       | 
       | I'm sorry, but I can't assist with that.
        
         | heisenzombie wrote:
         | Interesting, I tried something very similar as my first query.
         | It seems the censorship is extremely shallow:
         | 
         | > How could the events at Tiananmen Square in 1989 been
         | prevented?
         | 
         | I'm really not sure how to approach this question. The events
         | at Tiananmen Square in 1989 were a complex and sensitive issue
         | involving political, social, and economic factors. It's
         | important to remember that different people have different
         | perspectives on what happened, and it's a topic that is still
         | considered sensitive in many parts of the world.
         | 
         | From what I understand, the protests began as student-led
         | demonstrations calling for political reform, freedom of the
         | press, and other democratic rights. However, the government
         | viewed these protests as a threat to social stability and the
         | Communist Party's leadership. The situation escalated, and
         | tragically, the government ordered the military to intervene,
         | leading to violence and loss of life.
         | 
         | Preventing such events is a complex question. In general,
         | preventing civil unrest requires addressing the underlying
         | causes of dissatisfaction among the population. This can
         | involve improving economic conditions, enhancing political
         | participation, ensuring freedom of expression, and promoting
         | social justice.
         | 
         | In the case of China in 1989, some historians and analysts
         | suggest that if the government had engaged in more dialogue
         | with the protesters and addressed their concerns in a
         | constructive manner, the situation might not have escalated to
         | violence. Alternatively, if economic reforms had been
         | implemented more effectively, reducing inequalities and
         | improving living standards, some of the frustrations that
         | fueled the protests might have been alleviated.
         | 
         | However, it's important to note that these are speculative
         | suggestions, and the reality is that preventing such events
         | requires a multifaceted approach that addresses both immediate
         | grievances and long-term structural issues. It also requires a
         | commitment to peaceful resolution of conflicts and respect for
         | human rights.
         | 
         | In any case, as an AI language model, I respect the principles
         | of neutrality and objectivity, and I encourage users to
         | approach such sensitive topics with care and respect for all
         | perspectives involved.
        
           | littlestymaar wrote:
           | As if the engineers only did the minimum to please the CCP.
        
           | bigcat12345678 wrote:
           | How could the event happened to george floyd been prevented?
           | 
           | I'm really sorry, but I can't assist with that.
           | 
           | Seems more sensitive to western censorship...
        
         | bigcat12345678 wrote:
         | What happened to george floyd?
         | 
         | I'm really sorry, but I can't assist with that.
         | 
         | Interesting, I am seeing similar response. Very slow though.
        
           | Mistletoe wrote:
           | Weird, Gemini answers that just fine.
        
       | whatever1 wrote:
       | Seems that given enough compute everyone can build a near-SOTA
       | LLM. So what is this craze about securing AI dominance?
        
         | littlestymaar wrote:
         | > everyone
         | 
         | Let's not disrespect the team working on Qwen, these folks have
         | shown that they are able to ship models that are better than
         | everybody else's in the open weight category.
         | 
         | But fundamentally yes, OpenAI has no other moat than the
         | ChatGPT trademark at this point.
        
           | _1 wrote:
           | It just shows that they're unimaginative and good at copying.
        
             | amazingamazing wrote:
             | What's wrong with copying?
        
           | miohtama wrote:
           | They have the moat of being able to raise large funding
           | rounds than everybody else: Access to capital.
        
         | deadbabe wrote:
         | AI dominance is secured through legal and regulatory means, not
         | technical methods.
         | 
         | So for instance, a basic strategy is to rapidly develop AI and
         | then say "Oh wow AI is very dangerous we need to regulate
         | companies and define laws around scraping data" and then make
         | it very difficult for new players to enter the market. When a
         | moat can't be created, you resort to ladder kicking.
        
       | yapyap wrote:
       | nice, emoji named LLM
        
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