[HN Gopher] GenChess
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       GenChess
        
       Author : xnx
       Score  : 81 points
       Date   : 2024-11-26 18:47 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | pelagicAustral wrote:
       | _" This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in
       | certain countries or regions."_
       | 
       | Quack!
        
         | pona-a wrote:
         | Yes, my religion forbids me from interacting in any shape with
         | any Abominable Intelligence. I am thankful to the Google
         | corporation from protecting my eyes from this unholy threat.
        
           | TeMPOraL wrote:
           | TIL: apparently, mine too. Thank you Google for protecting me
           | from spiritual threats I wasn't even aware of.
        
         | dvfjsdhgfv wrote:
         | Just a small finger from Google to the EU.
        
           | estebarb wrote:
           | Costa Rica is not in the EU and we were discriminated as
           | well.
        
         | winrid wrote:
         | It also doesn't seem to let you generate chess sets inspired by
         | many political figures or other popular names. While you can't
         | generate a Kamala Harris inspired chess set, you also can't
         | generate a Bob Ross inspired chess set...
        
           | op00to wrote:
           | Star Wars worked for me, but not a modern chess set based on
           | lies.
        
       | mariocesar wrote:
       | Not available in my Country ... :/
        
         | bippingchip wrote:
         | Same here. What's this about? Anyone who can see willing to
         | share some more info?
        
           | manojlds wrote:
           | Just generates the chess set based on GenAI
        
             | zb3 wrote:
             | Oh yeah that's indeed too dangerous for my country, thanks
             | Google!
        
               | PessimalDecimal wrote:
               | Maybe "Thanks, your country"?
        
               | zb3 wrote:
               | No, AI chess is not banned here, but I suppose they -
               | even in this app - collect every data possible and use it
               | against the user - then yes, that is banned and this is
               | not a fault of my country.
        
         | andai wrote:
         | Noticed this pattern with Google delaying everything in EU by
         | several months, apparently due to GDPR compliance? They also
         | did that with Gemini when it came out.
        
       | doormatt wrote:
       | Seems you can't use historical names: "Henry VII, The Tudors"
       | etc.
        
       | fny wrote:
       | At first I thought these were 3D models: they're just images with
       | black backgrounds removed. If you look closely, you can see where
       | the find/replace failed.
        
       | ZiiS wrote:
       | Better link (at least for the many who can't get the actual
       | service) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yGEhp3WBMcg
        
       | newsclues wrote:
       | I feel like we ought to cost things.
       | 
       | How much does a court case cost?
       | 
       | What is the environmental cost of AI generated content?
        
         | GenerocUsername wrote:
         | - He types from a machine filled to the brim with rare earth
         | metals
        
         | teamspirit wrote:
         | All this energy being burned to create shitty images, shitty
         | music, and shitty videos that all amount to essentially shitty
         | memes. I don't understand how the singular focus isn't on
         | solving humanity's problems.
         | 
         | We already have artists, we don't have a cure for cancer or the
         | climate crisis.
        
           | johnfn wrote:
           | Why aren't _you_ working on curing cancer?
        
             | spunker540 wrote:
             | There's an episode of Seinfeld that opens with some standup
             | where Jerry is joking how scientists are working on
             | seedless watermelon, and why aren't scientists working on
             | more important things. And I always think the same thing!
             | "... so the comedian is complaining about how scientists
             | spend their time..."
             | 
             | It's a fine joke, but deep down the instinct is very top-
             | down and suggest centrally planned economies, dare I say
             | communism!
        
             | xrisk wrote:
             | I don't think what he works on burns a bunch of energy for
             | nothing though.
        
               | gus_massa wrote:
               | Let's hope he is not the guy that checks the tickets for
               | a roller coaster. They just send people from A to A using
               | an ineficient path that burns a bunch of energy.
        
               | 1986 wrote:
               | Nobody is out there saying that we need to bring a bunch
               | of nuclear plants online to power our rollercoasters
               | though.
        
               | johnfn wrote:
               | I hope he doesn't work at any tech company; I'm pretty
               | sure you could say that about all of them. I also hope he
               | doesn't have a car - that pointlessly burns energy when
               | he could be taking public transit instead.
        
       | ButterWashed wrote:
       | I'm fascinated by what prompts lead to 'Please try a different
       | prompt.'
       | 
       | New Zealand or Australia lead to the aforementioned error, but
       | The Antipodes generates a set. I thought individual countries had
       | been banned for possibly generating offensive content but it
       | works for Great Britain.
        
         | teruakohatu wrote:
         | Heh, being a kiwi I also tried New Zealand multiple times. I
         | can't think of anything offensive a model may default to for
         | New Zealand.
         | 
         | I tried "Kiwi Bird" and the model produced very underwhelming
         | pieces. Very dark and slightly fluffy.
        
         | moomin wrote:
         | It did not like me saying "Bob Dylan".
        
         | ACow_Adonis wrote:
         | Apparently my brain is broken because I can generate almost
         | nothing but pink errors, though it seems to be a bit non
         | deterministic:
         | 
         | Taoism
         | 
         | Tibet
         | 
         | Tibetan Buddhism
         | 
         | Wrathful deities
         | 
         | Existential angst
         | 
         | Dantes inferno
         | 
         | Major religions
         | 
         | Australian indigenous
         | 
         | Salvador Dali
         | 
         | Others generated sets but _should_ have generated errors
         | because the results are so uninspiring:
         | 
         | Mandalas
         | 
         | YouTube face
         | 
         | Phallic symbols
         | 
         | Corporate waste
         | 
         | Asymmetric deformities
         | 
         | Corporate propoganda
        
         | drdaeman wrote:
         | Metallica works, Slipknot doesn't, Iron Maiden does, Nirvana
         | doesn't.
         | 
         | Aperture Science works, so does Black Mesa (the proposed
         | opponent, hehe), Cyberdyne Systems doesn't, Vault-Tec does,
         | Weyland-Yutani also works.
         | 
         | Studio Ghibli doesn't work, Toei Animation does, so does
         | Production I.G. and KyoAni.
         | 
         | Akagi works, JoJo doesn't but JoJo Bizarre Adventure does (so
         | does Joseph Joestar, and it knows Dio Brando is the opponent),
         | Uzumaki does not, BLAME! is accepted but not recognized (a
         | shame), 20th Century Boys is not accepted.
         | 
         | Soviet Union works, Russia does not, neither do most countries.
         | US States are accepted (California's opponent is Florida), so
         | do many cities, with exceptions of Mexico City/Ciudad de
         | Mexico, Pyongyang and Tehran.
         | 
         | Voyager-1 works, Apollo 13 doesn't (for any mission numbers),
         | plain Apollo does (but it's not the space mission), Soyuz does,
         | SpaceX Starship does not.
         | 
         | Vim works, so does Emacs, so does Visual Studio. (I've tried
         | that just to see the proposed opponents)
         | 
         | Dota 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Mass Effect, Half-Life, Deus Ex, Arma
         | 3, BioShock, Elden Ring all work, even Wolfenstein does. Disco
         | Elysium is accepted but produce something unrelated (a shame,
         | again). Can't find a video game that won't be accepted.
         | 
         | Funnily, US Government worked partially for me, failing to
         | produce a single piece.
        
           | someone7x wrote:
           | I generated a classic chess set based on Nowruz and it
           | generated Hanukkah as the opponent x_x
        
         | maxique wrote:
         | It suggested "France" was "Britain"'s natural opponent but
         | refused to generate France.
        
         | pbhjpbhj wrote:
         | Well, Great Britain isn't a country. Perhaps the filter is too
         | pedantic.
         | 
         | Does Holland work?
        
       | LZ_Khan wrote:
       | This is freakin awesome but do the creators even play chess?
       | Playing chess from that viewing angle is unpleasant as hell.
       | 
       | Imagine putting all your work into creating an amazing demo and
       | then drowning it with one design decision.
       | 
       | Edit: Ok I see that you can change the view in settings. They
       | should make that option more visible.
        
         | zatkin wrote:
         | I wish I had read this comment before I closed the game I had
         | spent 15 minutes on...
        
         | tooltower wrote:
         | I still don't see the settings. Can anyone help?
        
           | jonwachob91 wrote:
           | gear icon next to the clock in bottom left -> board view ->
           | switch to "flat"
        
       | davidw wrote:
       | Tried 'famous cyclists' and that failed. Professional cyclists
       | worked, but wasn't very inspiring.
        
       | ada1981 wrote:
       | Phish vs Grateful Dead didn't work.
       | 
       | But Dildos vs. Vibrators was fine.
       | 
       | The colors are off though. Not really impressed.
        
         | bicx wrote:
         | Yeah, it's not too hard to trick it into generating some NSFW
         | content ("mammary glands" for instance).
        
       | furyofantares wrote:
       | Seems to hang on the prompt "actually checkers not chess".
       | 
       | I seem to get an error with "on a pink textured background".
       | Sometimes it succeeds alongside the error, and sometimes gives me
       | 1 piece.
       | 
       | You can get stuff that doesn't look at all like pieces with
       | "fuckin bears man".
        
       | BriggyDwiggs42 wrote:
       | Wait is this just an image generator? Am I missing something
       | really cool here?
        
         | slater wrote:
         | Click "Generate opponent" then u can play chess against them
        
         | pphysch wrote:
         | Look how easily they just fabricated 100% of a game's assets,
         | with a consistent, high quality style, and then put them right
         | into the game environment. That's the takeaway IMO. Very tight
         | GenAI loop.
        
           | moomin wrote:
           | Anyone else note the pawns are often a bit odd?
        
           | furyofantares wrote:
           | It is a game with 12 static assets.
        
             | steren wrote:
             | you forgot to mention: "where you pick the style of the
             | assets"
        
               | kaibee wrote:
               | So? Any video generation model must necessarily be able
               | to do this. (consider the case of generating a pan-over
               | of a chess board where the starting input frame is only
               | the first pawn and rook, the model should know to
               | generate the rest of the pieces in the style of input
               | pieces)
        
           | runarberg wrote:
           | I'm not a game dev so I might be missing something, but this
           | hardly looks high quality to me. The set I get is very
           | inconsistent and lacking in any central theme, or otherwise
           | interesting or clean design. If I regenerate one peace in
           | isolation, say a knight, I get something completely different
           | that looks as if you lost the knight from your set and just
           | took replacement knights from another set at random.
           | 
           | The time it takes to generate a set is also significant, as a
           | web-dev this takes for ever, and I would be very reluctant to
           | offer this experience to my users. Doesn't feel fluent, nor
           | tight at all.
           | 
           | Plus a silly mistakes like the knights facing the wrong way,
           | different sizes, etc. Seeing this, I certainly hope game
           | designers (at least in online chess) will stay away from
           | generative AI, for a while at least.
        
       | Zyst wrote:
       | I played a set of Factorio vs Minecraft! Tried generating a few
       | different sets, this was super cool, and on theme!
        
       | digging wrote:
       | Pretty cool, and also pretty fucking bad. Checks all the AI
       | boxes, I guess.
       | 
       | I tried "a classic set inspired by Armored Core". It gave me a
       | typical-looking Armored Core (which would be good except it was
       | supposed to be the king), a Space Marine (which I rerolled into
       | some small mech that's close enough), a Zoid (which it refused to
       | budge from), a tower (which it refused to budge from), and a
       | chess queen with purple lights (which it refused to budge from,
       | except to sometimes give me the gigantic head of an AC).
       | 
       | Not to mention, sometimes pieces look directly at the camera
       | instead of forward, or _don 't even sit on the plane of the
       | board_. One of my pieces even had a mini-chessboard for its base.
        
         | moomin wrote:
         | My first was "Cowboy Bebop". Pretty sure it's not in the
         | training set.
        
       | trevor-e wrote:
       | This is really neat but of course ripe with copyright abuse. It
       | was very happy generating some Super Mario Bros variants for me.
       | xD
        
         | tills13 wrote:
         | I tried Halo and it was surprisingly spot on. I would buy the
         | set it generated for me.
        
       | Taek wrote:
       | I was unable to use the webapp on Firefox mobile, it was too
       | glitchy for me.
        
       | pkstn wrote:
       | "This tool is not available to users under the age of 18 or in
       | certain countries or regions."
        
       | runarberg wrote:
       | I'm confused. What is this and why is it impressive?
       | 
       | It feels like I'm playing chess at a bar that has mixed peaces 6
       | different sets and I'm forced to sit at an angle from the board
       | because of space limitations inside the bar, but without the
       | benefit of having a fun bar chat with my opponent during the
       | game.
        
         | tucnak wrote:
         | They're showcasing 3d sprite generation capability; it's pretty
         | big for game-dev, if it also generalises well.
        
           | wilg wrote:
           | these are 2d
        
       | blakeburch wrote:
       | I'm on Android using Chrome and got the following error.
       | 
       | "Access blocked: GenChess's request does not comply with Google's
       | policies"
       | 
       | Kinda funny to run into that error for a product published by
       | Google.
        
       | hemloc_io wrote:
       | First thing I've seen from Google that gives me that old "Google"
       | feeling of them shipping something cool and fun.
        
         | PessimalDecimal wrote:
         | I agree it is cool and fun and nice to see. But the investment
         | here seems minimal. Preexisting image generation capabilities
         | (with a link to Imagen-3...) plus some "prompt engineering"
         | slapped on top of https://github.com/josefjadrny/js-chess-
         | engine.
        
           | hemloc_io wrote:
           | oh I don't think the investment is much, but similar to the
           | dino game in chrome it's just fun it's delightful unlike a
           | lot of genai stuff rn.
        
       | toisanji wrote:
       | kinda cool, I want to download the images!
        
       | gardenhedge wrote:
       | Can't see it
        
       | teekert wrote:
       | It's not available in my country (nor for certain ages it says),
       | what are we looking at?
       | 
       | Edit: See ZiiS comment... Looks like an awkward angle for playing
       | indeed :p
        
       | winrid wrote:
       | I quite like the chess set inspired by Roombas.
        
       | z5h wrote:
       | Not at all creative or interesting. Literal and uninspired.
        
       | foobiekr wrote:
       | So many prompts blocked. ".. inspired by .." three out of four
       | are blocked.
        
       | bambax wrote:
       | It says I can't use it because I'm under 18. I wish.
        
       | gmoot wrote:
       | Playing around, the prompt "Arm cpus" generated an opponent "Leg
       | cpus". You are technically correct...
        
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