[HN Gopher] Reweb: Visual website builder for Next.js and Tailwind
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       Reweb: Visual website builder for Next.js and Tailwind
        
       Author : klaussilveira
       Score  : 101 points
       Date   : 2024-11-25 01:46 UTC (21 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.reweb.so)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.reweb.so)
        
       | gnabgib wrote:
       | Page title: _The visual website builder for Next.js & Tailwind_
        
       | tipiirai wrote:
       | That site crashed my browser
        
         | IAmGraydon wrote:
         | It froze mine for a while. Pretty bad.
        
         | gryzzly wrote:
         | typical nextjs/react bloat, imagine you were using entry-level
         | android like half the world population.
        
       | ivewonyoung wrote:
       | Can you reimport from VS Code back into Reweb?
       | 
       | Or make this a Code extension?
        
         | slaucon wrote:
         | Agreed this would be way more useful as an IDE extension.
        
       | joshdavham wrote:
       | Looks pretty impressive! Kinda makes me jealous as a Sveltekit
       | dev.
        
         | h4ch1 wrote:
         | can just copy the generated raw markup and use shadcn-svelte
        
       | SirHound wrote:
       | UI looks ripped from Framer
        
         | kylecordes wrote:
         | It looks that way from some cosmetic choices, but structurally
         | this kind of UI has been around a long time in many apps.
         | Probably no one can claim to own it at this point.
        
       | caust1c wrote:
       | I hope this is the next standard for CMS-style sites. I'm eagerly
       | waiting for the thing that's easy enough for non-coders to use
       | that doesn't make the code-capable maintainers want to cry mercy.
       | 
       | I was pretty optimistic about netlify-cms the approach they took
       | just missed the mark on some technical things that NextJS handles
       | as part of the framework.
       | 
       | Best of luck! IMO there's still lots of opportunity in visual
       | site builders, and this one looks like it has a lot of potential.
        
         | kitd wrote:
         | _> I 'm eagerly waiting for the thing that's easy enough for
         | non-coders to use that doesn't make the code-capable
         | maintainers want to cry mercy._
         | 
         | As a former VBasic dev, don't hold your breath!
        
           | mst wrote:
           | Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
           | 
           | I have seen far too much VB and VBA that was written by
           | people who were only *ish* code-capable.
           | 
           | BUT.
           | 
           | The thing is, the result did basically work, was extremely
           | useful to the people who were using it, and if the 'ish'
           | person hadn't written it wouldn't've existed at all.
           | 
           | So I'm genuinely glad that they did write it, and they were
           | pretty much invariably somebody who was self taught, doing
           | their best, in isolation, with nobody around them who even
           | rose to the level of 'ish' to bounce ideas off or give
           | feedback.
           | 
           | It's actually quite a fascinating challenge to refactor code
           | like that such that it becomes more structurally coherent
           | *and* is still understandable and modifyable by the original
           | author (ideally easier to modify, but I will settle for not
           | making their lives harder while also making it easier for
           | somebody like me to debug weird shit problems for them when
           | they ask me to pitch in).
           | 
           | So my 'aaaaaaa' here is in a spirit of 'where did I put the
           | tissue box, my eyes are bleeding again' but not at all in a
           | spirit of criticising the original author. They made it work
           | at all!
           | 
           | But any thought on trying to make it possible for people who
           | don't code at all to produce non 'aaaaaaaa' inducing results
           | needs to account for the part where we can't even manage that
           | for the 'ish' people, and thus I am very suspicious of the
           | odds of it ever working out.
        
       | TiredOfLife wrote:
       | Begind a paywall.
        
       | smusamashah wrote:
       | Is there a website builder that emits just vanilla JS and html
       | instead?
        
         | XzAeRosho wrote:
         | yup: https://grapesjs.com/
         | 
         | Self-hostable too.
        
           | quaintdev wrote:
           | Thanks for sharing! This looks good.
        
         | paradite wrote:
         | FrontPage and Dreamweaver are like 20 years old now.
        
         | gadders wrote:
         | I think Pinegrow will do this? https://pinegrow.com/
        
       | vekker wrote:
       | I'd happily pay a fixed fee for a self-hostable desktop app
       | version of this, that just uses Ollama/ChatGPT/Claude for the LLM
       | part. Ideally open source too.
       | 
       | But yet another subscription? ... no thanks
        
         | newusertoday wrote:
         | other commenter @XzAeRosho shared it https://grapesjs.com/
        
         | gadders wrote:
         | Pinegrow: https://pinegrow.com/
        
       | october8140 wrote:
       | This seems like it would be slower than just using Next.js and
       | Tailwind. What is it adding?
        
       | desireco42 wrote:
       | I like it. Also pricing is sensible. Yearly $100 is OK for this
       | tool, monthly, I honestly will not even consider, as you can see
       | people are fed up with monthly subs.
       | 
       | I also like what I see in roadmap, you should have components,
       | sync to github etc. So it looks like promising product to me.
        
       | codegeek wrote:
       | Visual part is nice and Landing page and slick. However, I am not
       | trolling but what happens when NextJS is no longer the hot
       | commodity that it is today. I would prefer a Visual CMS that lets
       | me do all this but the output should always be static
       | HTML/CSS/JS. Most tools either do the visual part well but fail
       | at the output or vice versa. I don't mind if the stack is NextJS
       | or whatever but the final output should be a static HTML. Bonus
       | if you can push to deploy to Netlify/Cloudflare Pages/S3 etc
        
         | dncornholio wrote:
         | The exported code will always work, it doesn't depend on any
         | popularity?
        
         | paradite wrote:
         | I think you are looking for FrontPage or Dreamweaver?
        
         | Centigonal wrote:
         | always pushing to static HTML limits you to minimal backend
         | interactivity
        
           | bilekas wrote:
           | I'm not sure this is exactly true these days with htmx I've
           | been having a rush of fun again with light weight front ends.
           | And full two way binding support.
        
         | __oh_es wrote:
         | https://pinegrow.com may serve your needs well here epic
         | product
        
         | darepublic wrote:
         | I see more of a reason for nextjs than tailwind personally.
         | Having perhaps different export formats would be good but I do
         | feel like nextjs is a decent standard, for now at least.
        
       | kylecordes wrote:
       | I am curious how this compares to developing a site using the
       | various AI/IDE add-ons. If you're already a developer enough to
       | care that it's using Next.js, it seems like bringing up in Cursor
       | might be similarly effective, though less visual.
       | 
       | Still, I'm happy to see developers pursuing tools like this.
        
       | anentropic wrote:
       | The intro graphic shows someone building a website with the
       | title: "Leveraging AI to solve the world's biggest problems"
       | 
       | At first glance this gives the impression that Reweb is some sort
       | of LLM-aided "describe what you want it to build" tool
       | 
       | But (unless I misunderstood) it's mostly a WYSIWYG tool, albeit
       | there does seem to be an "AI theme generation" component
        
       | Leimi wrote:
       | Great to see such a tool not tied to a hosting formula, page
       | views and everything.
       | 
       | I see the value in helping me (the dev) quickly setting up
       | landing pages and including them in my existing website that I
       | host where I want.
        
       | suyash wrote:
       | Ah so it's a Next.js tool, because of that reason I'm out!
        
       | funkaster wrote:
       | as others have mentioned, this would be great if it would spit
       | html fragments instead of react components. It would be really
       | useful for quickly building htmx apps.
        
       | deburo wrote:
       | They offer a lifetime pricing tier, which will obviously removed
       | in a few years if the company still exists. I wonder why a SaaS
       | would even bother.
        
       | hm-nah wrote:
       | For me, visiting this site crashes Firefox on iOS.
        
       | LauraMedia wrote:
       | I generally like these tools, but I hate how they focus so much
       | on one specific framework.
       | 
       | Tailwind is so general, why wouldn't you build a tool that works
       | with Vue, that works with React, that works with Svelte?
        
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