[HN Gopher] Flipping FLIP ship saved from scrapyard at last minute
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       Flipping FLIP ship saved from scrapyard at last minute
        
       Author : roenxi
       Score  : 76 points
       Date   : 2024-11-20 11:01 UTC (5 days ago)
        
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       | neom wrote:
       | Pretty decent 2 minute video detailing the ship more:
       | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dftaWQLtPQ
        
       | lupusreal wrote:
       | It doesn't have propulsion of its own and needs to be towed
       | everywhere; is it technically a ship? Seems more like a fancy
       | barge or platform.
       | 
       | Very cool in any case, I'm glad it's been saved.
        
         | ethbr1 wrote:
         | It moves. Just only rotationally. :)
        
         | diggan wrote:
         | Wikipedia calls it "open ocean research platform" which seems
         | more appropriate, agree. But it doesn't rhyme as nicely as
         | "Flipping FLIP ship" so I understand the author took a bit of
         | liberty in the title, at least they explain what FLIP stands
         | for ("FLoating Instrument Platform") which makes it pretty
         | clear if it's a ship or platform :)
        
       | toomuchtodo wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _RP FLIP escapes wrecker 's claws_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41964882 - Oct 2024 (50
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _Scripps Institution of Oceanography's FLIP vessel
       | decommissioned after 60 years_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37072588 - Aug 2023 (51
       | comments)
       | 
       |  _A ship that flips 90 degrees for precise scientific
       | measurements_ - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15078094 -
       | Aug 2017 (75 comments)
       | 
       |  _" Flip", the vertical ship, marks 50 years at sea_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4193185 - July 2012 (34
       | comments)
       | 
       | Wikipedia:
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       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RP_FLIP
        
       | didntcheck wrote:
       | Nice. I have fond memories of being chased by a Flesher in one of
       | those
        
       | Animats wrote:
       | _" FLIP is from a time of bold engineering and optimism for our
       | future and our oceans."_
       | 
       | Indeed. There was a time in the 1960s when the oceans were
       | considered to be as important to explore as space. From the
       | Futurama ride at the 1964 World's Fair:[1]
       | 
       | [1] https://youtu.be/2-5aK0H05jk?t=152
        
         | bragr wrote:
         | >There was a time in the 1960s when the oceans were considered
         | to be as important to explore as space.
         | 
         | Arguably a lot of that was just cover for cold war military
         | submarine/anti-submarine research. Seabed hydrophones for
         | tracking soviet subs, undersea mapping for submarine
         | navigation, DSVs for recovering intelligence from wrecks, etc.
         | Famously the discovery of the wreck of the Titanic was just the
         | cover story for exploring submarine wrecks in the Atlantic.
         | 
         | https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/us/titanic-discovery-classifi...
        
       | mark_l_watson wrote:
       | I am happy it is not being junked. For many years I saw it
       | sailing past the Marine Physics Laboratory (part of Scripts
       | Institute of Oceanography). Later my Dad became director of that
       | lab, until he retired. Such a cool idea for an experiment
       | platform to rotate ninety degrees for stability.
        
       | psunavy03 wrote:
       | Interesting. I had no idea it was originally designed for testing
       | SUBROC.
        
       | roygbiv2 wrote:
       | I first read about this in a book as a child and was fascinated
       | by it. The same book detailed a channel tunnel that was being
       | planned between England and France, that definitely dates me.
        
       | walrus01 wrote:
       | The lifespan of any vessel, barge, ship, ferry, whatever that's
       | built from steel and lives its entire life in saltwater is
       | limited. I don't think anyone should be surprised that something
       | built in 1962 has become uneconomical to maintain and needs to be
       | scrapped.
       | 
       | In this case it's probably unique enough that someone did the
       | math on it and determined that for however many millions of euros
       | are being spent to rehabilitate it in a shipyard, keeping it
       | viable for another 10-15 years, it's less expensive than building
       | an entirely new one to a custom design.
        
         | potato3732842 wrote:
         | It's not that it's uneconomical to maintain the core ship. It's
         | that ships periodically need to be refitted the same way houses
         | get renovated and without a future use to justify that there's
         | no reason to do so.
        
           | walrus01 wrote:
           | I've seen detailed photo galleries of former WA state ferries
           | when they go for auction, after they've reached the end of
           | their service life as judged by the state government. Usually
           | at the 40+ year mark. Throughout their service lives they get
           | refitted and fixed up on an almost continual basis, many
           | millions of dollars are spent on maintaining each one, but at
           | a certain point, it starts looking like a money pit to pour
           | funds into continuing to fix up a 35, 40 year old vessel in
           | salt water.
           | 
           | There's some ships on the great lakes which are 70, 75, 80
           | years old and don't have nearly the same ongoing corrosion
           | issues as similar ones that live in salt water.
        
       | sans_souse wrote:
       | _" Our mission is perhaps equally bold: to make humans aquatic by
       | enabling our species to live, work and thrive underwater. FLIP
       | will play a key role in the DEEP fleet, providing a one-of-a-kind
       | platform for ocean research and being capable of supporting
       | DEEP's Sentinel habitat deployments as part of our extended
       | research network."_
       | 
       | Well, damn..
        
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